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Should drunk college women be turned away from frat parties?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:40 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
http://gawker.com/forbes-columnist-drun ... 1638518934

Ok the above is my attempt to do a link. It is my first attempt and I hope it worked.

So this guy named Frizza is like the grand poobah of a college fraternity. He wrote this article that advised college fraternities to turn away girls who show up drunk to frat parties. His reasoning is that they cause problems like accusations of assault and stuff like that.

He also advised frat bros to not have sex with drunk girls or even let them into their rooms as this causes problems for themselves and their feats. He praised law courts for their ability to protect the falsely accused but slammed school disciplinary processes as kangaroo courts.

Apparently, Forbes had a problem with this article and yanked it and fired Mr. Frizza. They took yer job! I am not sure what the problem is, it was called sexist and mysoginistic but this was conclusory. I suppose that the problem was that only drunk women should be turned away and nothing was mentioned about drunk male guests.

My opinion is that there is rape madness at colleges. In some American colleges like Bucknell University, self reporting rape surveys apparently indicate that a majority of college women are raped. If that is true then colleges are too rapey to be allowed to have any mixing of the sexes. If as I suspect, these rape surveys somehow over exaggerate the problem, there are obviously a lot of false beliefs about rape or something. I am not sure what the deal is with this everybody getting the rape thing but obviously college kids need to be careful to protect themselves from rape accusations.

Am I way off here or does Mr. Frizza have a point that drunk girls can get frat boys into trouble even if the frat boys don't rape anyone? Do you have any thoughts as to why Forbes and the Feminists did not like this article?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:42 pm
by Bohemia Minor
No frat parties. Problem solved.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:43 pm
by Benuty
Glorious Freedonia wrote:http://gawker.com/forbes-columnist-drunk-female-guests-are-the-gravest-1638518934

Ok the above is my attempt to do a link. It is my first attempt and I hope it worked.

So this guy named Frizza is like the grand poobah of a college fraternity. He wrote this article that advised college fraternities to turn away girls who show up drunk to frat parties. His reasoning is that they cause problems like accusations of assault and stuff like that.

He also advised frat bros to not have sex with drunk girls or even let them into their rooms as this causes problems for themselves and their feats. He praised law courts for their ability to protect the falsely accused but slammed school disciplinary processes as kangaroo courts.

Apparently, Forbes had a problem with this article and yanked it and fired Mr. Frizza. They took yer job! I am not sure what the problem is, it was called sexist and mysoginistic but this was conclusory. I suppose that the problem was that only drunk women should be turned away and nothing was mentioned about drunk male guests.

My opinion is that there is rape madness at colleges. In some American colleges like Bucknell University, self reporting rape surveys apparently indicate that a majority of college women are raped. If that is true then colleges are too rapey to be allowed to have any mixing of the sexes. If as I suspect, these rape surveys somehow over exaggerate the problem, there are obviously a lot of false beliefs about rape or something. I am not sure what the deal is with this everybody getting the rape thing but obviously college kids need to be careful to protect themselves from rape accusations.

Am I way off here or does Mr. Frizza have a point that drunk girls can get frat boys into trouble even if the frat boys don't rape anyone? Do you have any thoughts as to why Forbes and the Femiists did not like this article?


What the hell is a femiist?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:44 pm
by NERVUN
Benuty wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:http://gawker.com/forbes-columnist-drunk-female-guests-are-the-gravest-1638518934

Ok the above is my attempt to do a link. It is my first attempt and I hope it worked.

So this guy named Frizza is like the grand poobah of a college fraternity. He wrote this article that advised college fraternities to turn away girls who show up drunk to frat parties. His reasoning is that they cause problems like accusations of assault and stuff like that.

He also advised frat bros to not have sex with drunk girls or even let them into their rooms as this causes problems for themselves and their feats. He praised law courts for their ability to protect the falsely accused but slammed school disciplinary processes as kangaroo courts.

Apparently, Forbes had a problem with this article and yanked it and fired Mr. Frizza. They took yer job! I am not sure what the problem is, it was called sexist and mysoginistic but this was conclusory. I suppose that the problem was that only drunk women should be turned away and nothing was mentioned about drunk male guests.

My opinion is that there is rape madness at colleges. In some American colleges like Bucknell University, self reporting rape surveys apparently indicate that a majority of college women are raped. If that is true then colleges are too rapey to be allowed to have any mixing of the sexes. If as I suspect, these rape surveys somehow over exaggerate the problem, there are obviously a lot of false beliefs about rape or something. I am not sure what the deal is with this everybody getting the rape thing but obviously college kids need to be careful to protect themselves from rape accusations.

Am I way off here or does Mr. Frizza have a point that drunk girls can get frat boys into trouble even if the frat boys don't rape anyone? Do you have any thoughts as to why Forbes and the Femiists did not like this article?


What the hell is a femiist?

A... female, diaphanous mist?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:45 pm
by -The Unified Earth Governments-
No drunk people at all.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:46 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
NERVUN wrote:
Benuty wrote:
What the hell is a femiist?

A... female, diaphanous mist?

Sorry it was a typo. I meant to write "Feminists".

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:47 pm
by Benuty
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:No drunk people at all.

Then whats the point of party?

Obviously lock them each individually in their own room with life support monitors attached to them to monitor their condition thus hitting the life alert button they have if things get serious. Also you get a completely trash can to worship along side the toilet deity in which your face will be stuck in till morning.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:49 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
Bohemia Minor wrote:No frat parties. Problem solved.

But but but then who could appreciate movies like animal house, revenge of the nerds, or king frat?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:49 pm
by Othelos
No, instead of turning drunk women away, college guys should just not rape them. Problem solved.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:49 pm
by Benuty
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Bohemia Minor wrote:No frat parties. Problem solved.

But but but then who could appreciate movies like animal house, revenge of the nerds, or king frat?

A more civilized culture perhaps?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:50 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
I feel like I have stepped boldly forward into this new millennium because I did the link thing. I am so proud that it worked.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:51 pm
by Benuty
Othelos wrote:No, instead of turning drunk women students away, college guys students, and others should just not rape them. Problem solved.

Fixed that for you.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:52 pm
by Eastern Equestria
Othelos wrote:No, instead of turning drunk women away, college guys should just not rape them. Problem solved.


:clap:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:52 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
Othelos wrote:No, instead of turning drunk women away, college guys should just not rape them. Problem solved.

The point is that this is not enough. They will still deal with all kinds of false allegations since obviously rape is over self reported in surveys which suggests that it may be wrongly reported to campus security too.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:53 pm
by Othelos
Benuty wrote:
Othelos wrote:No, instead of turning drunk women students away, college guys students, and others should just not rape them. Problem solved.

Fixed that for you.

Thanks, apparently replying to the topic specifically is a mistake.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:55 pm
by The House of Xavier
Bohemia Minor wrote:No frat parties. Problem solved.


Uhh... fuck no? Would have replaced no with a personal pronoun, but don't want to get banned.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:55 pm
by Benuty
Othelos wrote:
Benuty wrote:Fixed that for you.

Thanks, apparently replying to the topic specifically is a mistake.

Using terms from pre-1991 most certainly is.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:57 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
Benuty wrote:
Othelos wrote:Thanks, apparently replying to the topic specifically is a mistake.

Using terms from pre-1991 most certainly is.

What happened in 1991 besides that was when I fell in love with my first girlfriend?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:57 pm
by Othelos
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Othelos wrote:No, instead of turning drunk women away, college guys should just not rape them. Problem solved.

The point is that this is not enough. They will still deal with all kinds of false allegations since obviously rape is over self reported in surveys which suggests that it may be wrongly reported to campus security too.

If there is no evidence for the rape, then the allegations won't go anywhere.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:59 pm
by Othelos
Benuty wrote:
Othelos wrote:Thanks, apparently replying to the topic specifically is a mistake.

Using terms from pre-1991 most certainly is.

the topic is about guys raping college women. If the topic was about rape in general, then obviously I would have used more inclusive terminology. Thank you, but my post was fine the way it was.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:59 pm
by Vamtrl
Call a cab and send them home.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:59 pm
by NERVUN
Having read the original article I find it a mix of some actual good advice mixed in with a lot of, shall we say, one sided views of women, and a great deal of bellyaching from someone complaining about how people don't take responsibility for their actions while more or less yelling how dare frats need to take responsibility for their actions!

In other words, not taking it all that seriously.

I will agree that ANYONE who is drunk needs to be turned away and no, you SHOULDN'T be taking someone who is obviously impaired to your room for "fun". That's not frats, that's common sense.

Sadly, alcohol + college students = lack thereof.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:00 pm
by Glorious Freedonia
Othelos wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:The point is that this is not enough. They will still deal with all kinds of false allegations since obviously rape is over self reported in surveys which suggests that it may be wrongly reported to campus security too.

If there is no evidence for the rape, then the allegations won't go anywhere.

Not according to Mr. Frizza

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:01 pm
by Benuty
Othelos wrote:
Benuty wrote:Using terms from pre-1991 most certainly is.

the topic is about guys raping college women. If the topic was about rape in general, then obviously I would have used more inclusive terminology. Thank you, but my post was fine the way it was.

You want to know what the worst part is?

The fact that I forgot the internet is tone deaf especially when it comes to sarcasm.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:01 pm
by Othelos
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Othelos wrote:If there is no evidence for the rape, then the allegations won't go anywhere.

Not according to Mr. Frizza

I don't care what he thinks. Courts won't convict someone of rape unless there is evidence.