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Which party would you vote for?

Moderate Party
26
12%
Peoples Liberal Party
9
4%
Centre Party
7
3%
Christian Democrats
16
7%
Social Democrats
50
23%
Green Party
13
6%
Left Party
29
14%
Sweden Democrats
58
27%
Feminist Initiative
6
3%
 
Total votes : 214

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Calimera II
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:47 pm

Skappola wrote:I find it so funny that nearly all of their parties have something associated with leftism in their names.

They do not.

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Socialist Czechia
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:47 pm

All these 'centre-left' parties are just joke serving individual capitalists at best and foreign imperialists at worst.

Never really solved nothing, prolonging all problems or even worse option, pretending there are no problems - very usual move in Europe, unfortunately.
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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:47 pm

Sweden Democrats, of course.

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:48 pm

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Othelos wrote:yes, it's quite a terrible place to live.

Why?

Everybod loves to speak about the fanous Scandinavian living standard.

was sarcastic

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Communal Ecotopia
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:49 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Fjormark wrote:Christian Democrats for me, I'm surprised even one person voted for a non-party who aims at resolving non-issues like Feminist Initiative.


Feminism is not a non-issue.


Thank you for being a voice of reason in the early part of the thread.
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:49 pm

Estado Nacional wrote:
Othelos wrote:omg I know, it's terrible for women to want to be treated as equals.


It's not like they aren't.

women are almost equal, but there are still some differences (especially economically, such as the wage gap).

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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:50 pm

Othelos wrote:
Estado Nacional wrote:
It's not like they aren't.

women are almost equal, but there are still some differences (especially economically, such as the wage gap).


Don't forget the massive wave of rape brought around by the exploding immigrant population.

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Socialist Czechia
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:51 pm

First thing Swedish comrades should do (if there are any actual revolutionary comrades), get rid of monarchist anachronism.

Left which tolerates monarchy, is no real left.

But they are not able even do this one necessary move :roll:
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Arcturus Novus
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Arcturus Novus » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Probably either the Social Democrats or the Left Party.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:First thing Swedish comrades should do (if there are any actual revolutionary comrades), get rid of monarchist anachronism.

Left which tolerates monarchy, is no real left.

But they are not able even do this one necessary move :roll:

the monarchy's existence doesn't matter to the left. There aren't any anarchist parties, so it's completely compatible.

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:54 pm

New Laikland wrote:Sweden Democrats, of course.



Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:57 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Sweden Democrats, of course.



Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.

Well, he did write:

New Laikland wrote:Don't forget the massive wave of rape brought around by the exploding immigrant population.

so xenophobia, probably.

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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:57 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:First thing Swedish comrades should do (if there are any actual revolutionary comrades), get rid of monarchist anachronism.

Left which tolerates monarchy, is no real left.

But they are not able even do this one necessary move :roll:


Because there's no point. The monarch has no power and exists for the sake of historicity only.
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Estado Nacional
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Postby Estado Nacional » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:58 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Sweden Democrats, of course.



Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.


For: Technocrat Third Positionism, Order, Efficiency, Eurasia, Nationalism, Highly Skilled Immigration, Science, Norse Paganism, Freedom of Speech, Gender Neutrality
Against: Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Liberals, Asylum, Uneducated Immigration, Anarchy


That guy's like the teenage version of Anders Breivik.
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Postby Skappola » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:58 pm

I would vote for the People's Liberal Party.
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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:58 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Sweden Democrats, of course.



Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.


They're bigoted for wanting to protect their own people and culture?

I'd say you're pretty bigoted against Swedes, and I'm terribly offended.

Othelos wrote:so xenophobia, probably.


I'm not afraid of immigrants, so no. Infact, I plan to become one in the near future.

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Estado Nacional
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Postby Estado Nacional » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:59 pm

Othelos wrote:so xenophobia, probably.


He's not entirely wrong, though, so screaming "xenophobia" won't help.
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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:59 pm

Estado Nacional wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:

Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.


For: Technocrat Third Positionism, Order, Efficiency, Eurasia, Nationalism, Highly Skilled Immigration, Science, Norse Paganism, Freedom of Speech, Gender Neutrality
Against: Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Liberals, Asylum, Uneducated Immigration, Anarchy


That guy's like the teenage version of Anders Breivik.


Whoops, forgot to fix that. Either way, Breivik supports Judaism and Christianity fully. Our ideologies are hardly compatible.

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Anollasia
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Anollasia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:00 pm

My choice probably would've been Social Democrats.

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Socialist Czechia
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:00 pm

Othelos wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:First thing Swedish comrades should do (if there are any actual revolutionary comrades), get rid of monarchist anachronism.

Left which tolerates monarchy, is no real left.

But they are not able even do this one necessary move :roll:

the monarchy's existence doesn't matter to the left. There aren't any anarchist parties, so it's completely compatible.


Monarchist left is oxymoron. Left must be always pro-Republic, by logic, because Monarchy gives official power and influence to few people over other people from no reason other than own existence and ancient silly titles.

Left is Sweden should destroy this reactionary conservative core first before discussing less important stuff like immigration or gender equality. Yes, its more important than that.
No wonder why left parties in monarchist states are jokes, while left parties in republics can be more radical and actually DO and CHANGE something...
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Estado Nacional
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Postby Estado Nacional » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:04 pm

New Laikland wrote:I'm not afraid of immigrants, so no.


This was really ridiculous (and childish).
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New York Times Democracy

Postby New Socialist South Africa » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:04 pm

New Laikland wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:

Why vote for such a far right, bigoted party? The Swedish Democrat's platform is utterly ridiculous.


They're bigoted for wanting to protect their own people and culture?

I'd say you're pretty bigoted against Swedes, and I'm terribly offended.

Othelos wrote:so xenophobia, probably.


I'm not afraid of immigrants, so no. Infact, I plan to become one in the near future.


Homophobia part of Swedish culture? You learn something new everyday.
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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:06 pm

Estado Nacional wrote:
New Laikland wrote:I'm not afraid of immigrants, so no.


This was really ridiculous (and childish).


Yeah, I don't understand why people keep throwing out those irrelevant words. It feels like arguing with children.

New Socialist South Africa wrote:
Homophobia part of Swedish culture? You learn something new everyday.


Disregarding an entire political party because the words or actions of a few of it's members don't agree with you isn't an educated thing to do.
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Seaxeland
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Postby Seaxeland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:07 pm

Sweden Democrats seems like the best choice.

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Estado Nacional
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Postby Estado Nacional » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:09 pm

New Laikland wrote:It feels like arguing with children.


You couldn't be more right. Now, if you excuse me...
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