Mob beats grocery employees in Memphis - Discussion

[Ifreann]

He was a member of the GOP. So he would indeed agree with the Tea Party.

Martin Luther King was a Republican? You can source that, right? I doubt he'd agree with much of anything the Tea Party says, though.

A glance at Wikipedia tells me he favoured neither party publicly, but tended to vote Democrat. Liberal lies, I'm sure.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Oh Mob... I read that as Mod.

[Slavonian kingdom]

He was a member of the GOP. So he would indeed agree with the Tea Party.

Martin Luther King was a Republican? You can source that, right? I doubt he'd agree with much of anything the Tea Party says, though.

Alveda King, the niece confirmed it.

[Ifreann]

Oh Mob... I read that as Mod.

Mods battering grocery store employees isn't really news, they do it every week.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Oh Mob... I read that as Mod.

Mods battering grocery store employees isn't really news, they do it every week.

I just assumed DLN had gone on another rampage.

[Proskoya]

So the police could have helped the man...

In any given situation in Memphis, ESPECIALLY at Poplar Plaza (where this took place) there are only about 1 or 2 cops in the area. It would take too much time for backup to arrive because of Memphis' high rates of crime and violence, not to mention this was at 9:00 so most police officers on hand were tasked for traffic duties. There were 100 people in said mob so this would be hard to raise a large number of police officer in a short amount of time sufficient enough to deal with this issue. Security personnel on scene hired by Poplar Plaza are instructed never to interfere but to report.

Source is the fact that I live in this area and used to work at the Cici's this mob came from before going apeshit.

[Ifreann]

Mods battering grocery store employees isn't really news, they do it every week.

I just assumed DLN had gone on another rampage.

Just the usual bruised bag stuffers, as far as I'm aware.

[Sdaeriji]

Yes, I imagine blacks in America felt they were better off prior to the late 1960s.

He was a member of the GOP. So he would indeed agree with the Tea Party.

He voted for JFK.

[Laerod]

He was a member of the GOP. So he would indeed agree with the Tea Party.

Martin Luther King was a Republican? You can source that, right? I doubt he'd agree with much of anything the Tea Party says, though.

He may have been a registered Republican. This would make sense as he lived in the South, Johnson hadn't sided with the Civil Rights Movement yet and alienated southern racists among the Democrats, and Nixon hadn't implemented the Southern Strategy to welcome the racists into the fold of the Republican Party. Registering as a Republican may have been his only means of registering to vote. However, the main source for this was:

Martin Luther King was a Republican? You can source that, right? I doubt he'd agree with much of anything the Tea Party says, though.

Alveda King, the niece confirmed it.

Who promptly unconfirmed it:

I have few regrets in my life. At the top of the list is the demise of two children in my womb, and one miscarriage. Next to that, I regret having said to a group of peers that my Uncle M. L. (Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.) was a Republican. I said that without having all the facts. My Grandfather, Dr. Martin Luther King, Sr. was a registered Republican. Uncle M. L. was an independent, who in his own words tended to vote Democrat. I assumed that since Granddaddy was a Republican, Uncle M. L. was too.

[Slavonian kingdom]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

[Ifreann]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

Even if this is true I'm at a loss as to why anyone should give a shit.

[Laerod]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

Absolute bullshit. The Tea Party is diametrically opposed to King's core values.

[Sdaeriji]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

Other than the fact that none of this is true, you're absolutely right.

[Ifreann]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

Absolute bullshit. The Tea Party is diametrically opposed to King's core values.

I don't think he would have been quite as upset as they were at the election of a black man to the White House.

[Slavonian kingdom]

The Democrats were back than hard-core conservatives. So he wozld align with the Tea Party if he was alive.

Absolute bullshit. The Tea Party is diametrically opposed to King's core values.

What exactly makes them different? Absolutely nothing.

Both are religious and opposed to gay rights. There is no defference between the Tea Party and 1960s Democrats.

[Laerod]

Absolute bullshit. The Tea Party is diametrically opposed to King's core values.

I don't think he would have been quite as upset as they were at the election of a black man to the White House.

On the other hand, the war on poor people that Republicans and the Tea Party are engaged him likely would have pissed him off to no end. Though we're speculating here and that may not be appropriate.

[Laerod]

Absolute bullshit. The Tea Party is diametrically opposed to King's core values.

What exactly makes them different? Absolutely nothing.

Both are religious and opposed to gay rights. There is no defference between the Tea Party and 1960s Democrats.

Well, one major difference would be that the Tea Party is monolithc while the Democrats were not. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 wasn't opposed along partisan lines, but along geographical ones. Democrats and Republicans alike voted for and against it in the Senate by significant margins. The same goes for the Republicans.

[Quintium]

On the other hand, the war on poor people that Republicans and the Tea Party are engaged him likely would have pissed him off to no end. Though we're speculating here and that may not be appropriate.

I spy with my little eye...
...speculation.

For all we know, he could have been one of the few black people in the United States actively opposed to the notion of a welfare state, because perhaps he'd know that welfare locks people in place and only helps the government that sustains the welfare state gain a loyal voter base. As I said, I do believe that much of the reason why black people in the United States are laughably over-represented in everything bad is because of the utter dependence of their communities on welfare. In many black communities, welfare is a way of life, a thing that speaks for itself, a thing they consider a god-given right. Unfortunately for them, welfare doesn't buy Italian sports cars and mansions, and so they'll turn to crime (in part because it's glorified in their communities, but also in part because welfare has made them expect to get things for free while Europeans, Asians and Hispanics know they have to work hard to get an Italian sports car and a mansion).

[Laerod]

On the other hand, the war on poor people that Republicans and the Tea Party are engaged him likely would have pissed him off to no end. Though we're speculating here and that may not be appropriate.

I spy with my little eye...
...speculation.

For all we know, he could have been one of the few black people in the United States actively opposed to the notion of a welfare state, ...

Don't make me laugh.

A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: "This is not just."

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.

And that's not even getting into his Poor People's Campaign.

King supporting the dismantling of the welfare state is about as likely as him applying for Klan membership.

[Ifreann]

On the other hand, the war on poor people that Republicans and the Tea Party are engaged him likely would have pissed him off to no end. Though we're speculating here and that may not be appropriate.

I spy with my little eye...
...speculation.

Truly your skills of detection are unmatched.

[Quintium]

King supporting the dismantling of the welfare state is about as likely as him applying for Klan membership.

Then he was a fool, like the white liberals who revere him.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Address him then, and not me.

You're a feisty one, aren't you? I wonder whose hand is up you...

Yes, I have to admit, you've caught me red-handed. He is in fact my sockpuppet, which I've been controlling all along. It's all part of my grand scheme of creating vast amounts of sockpuppets to improve my NS reputation (like I give two shits) . Well played.

You should probably just address the post which you have a problem with.

Oh but I did.

totally.

[Ifreann]

You're a feisty one, aren't you? I wonder whose hand is up you...

Yes, I have to admit, you've caught me red-handed. He is in fact my sockpuppet, which I've been controlling all along. It's all part of my grand scheme of creating vast amounts of sockpuppets to improve my NS reputation (like I give two shits) . Well played.

Huh, I didn't expect them to be your puppet.

[Big Jim P]

The race of the attacker(s) is irrelevant. The victims should have had the option of being armed (and having that option, a wise person would have been).

[Allector]

If there were a few people that were armed at the scene, I'm sure the mob would have ceased its violent activity in rather short order. Nobody would even need to be shot for it to be effective. A warning shot or 2 probably would do the trick unless the mob had die hard loyalty to one another, which in this case they probably didn't. Once that gun goes off, everybody in that mob is going to start fending/thinking for themselves and a large majority are not going to want to rush a guy armed with a firearm, even if it does have limited ammunition capacity, and risk their lives for some malicious "fun".

Further, if these armed citizens are well trained and proficient in the use of their weapons, that mob could easily be controlled. However, once you start shooting people, whether you shoot to kill or not, you run the risk of angering the crowd even more and making them willing to rush the armed citizens. So, you either shoot enough to frighten the rest and ride that delicate line, or you keep shooting until there is no more crowd with former option being the more desirable of the two and not killing/injuring anyone being the ideal situation.