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Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:04 pmby OMGeverynameistaken
The Sotoan Union wrote:OMGeverynameistaken wrote:The USSR WAS basically a continuation of the Russian Empire under new management.
So then you would refer to these Russian governments as Russia. It doesn't make sense to call modern Russia the USSR when it gets expansive, especially since Russia has always been expansive.
I don't disagree. The whole "herpderp Putin reviving USSR OMG LOL" thing is a bunch of nonsense.
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Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:06 pmby United States of White America
Vistulange wrote:United States of White America wrote:The Soviet Union destroyed itself because people finally saw that communism was and is evil.
Could you, by chance, be able to enlighten all of us as to why communism is evil?
It was created by Karl Marx, who was an incredibly horrible man. Communism lead to the destruction of the class system, and in China it led to massive genocide of intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution. Many writers who were communist, such as Franz Kafka, wrote really awful books trying to point the finger of blame onto capitalism.
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Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:08 pmby Kargintina
Putin destroyered teh USZR Wit his mad hakzso he can remak itz witz with evil armies and start teh wurl wa tree
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Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:10 pmby Max Worshippers
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Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:20 pmby Kargintina
Kargintina wrote:Putin destroyered teh USZR Wit his mad hakzso he can remak itz witz with evil armies and start teh wurl wa tree
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Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:20 pmby Kubra
United States of White America wrote:Franz Kafka wrote really awful books
opinion disregarded
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:27 pmby United States of White America
Kubra wrote:United States of White America wrote:Franz Kafka wrote really awful books
opinion disregarded
Why?
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:56 pmby Distruzionopolis
Stalinism. Stalinism destroyed the Soviet Union.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:38 pmby Bolnoa
My view on this isn't in a selected option.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:41 pmby Bolnoa
Distruzionopolis wrote:Stalinism. Stalinism destroyed the Soviet Union.
Main stream version of the Soviet Union died along with Stalin. My favorite age of the Soviet Union died in 1964. It officially died in 1991.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:48 pmby The New Sea Territory
Ronald Reagan did jack shit, first of all.
The Soviet Union just made bad economic plans and organized itself really, really terribly.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:51 pmby Britannic Realms
Boris Yeltsin.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:31 pmby Bontavation
All of these options are leaving out the biggest problem, was trapped in an expensive arms-race and was addicted to high oil prices. During the oil glut of the 80's, things really started to go to hell. This wasn't the only factor, but it is the biggest.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:28 pmby The Broken Russian States
SDI Massacred everyone in Moscow.
No seriously, didn't someone launch a coup that killed the USSR?
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:38 pmby Jinos
I'm largely disappointed people actually believe the Soviet Union collapsed due to some kind of inherent and irreversable flaw. Like, seriously? History is a track record of failed, brutal police states that just keep chugging. North Korea? China? Iran? Burma?
It was all Gorbachev. Maybe if his reforms had come slower, and started with economic benefits first before political freedoms, he could've kept the USSR together - maybe not as a Nation, but at least a Federation of States.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:55 pmby Pandeeria
Jinos wrote:I'm largely disappointed people actually believe the Soviet Union collapsed due to some kind of inherent and irreversable flaw. Like, seriously? History is a track record of failed, brutal police states that just keep chugging. North Korea? China? Iran? Burma?
It was all Gorbachev. Maybe if his reforms had come slower, and started with economic benefits first before political freedoms, he could've kept the USSR together - maybe not as a Nation, but at least a Federation of States.
Gorbachev was only a symptom of a larger issue: the growth of liberalism within the Communist Party. The Party itself grew concerned with freedoms, especially that of the media and speech, eh oh lead to the Union's downfall.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:07 pmby Greed and Death
The ideology, communism will never work in the long term.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:09 pmby Greed and Death
Jinos wrote:I'm largely disappointed people actually believe the Soviet Union collapsed due to some kind of inherent and irreversable flaw. Like, seriously? History is a track record of failed, brutal police states that just keep chugging. North Korea? China? Iran? Burma?
It was all Gorbachev. Maybe if his reforms had come slower, and started with economic benefits first before political freedoms, he could've kept the USSR together - maybe not as a Nation, but at least a Federation of States.
So being a police state does not end in doom.
But being an economic left country does.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:14 pmby Empire of Narnia
greed and death wrote:Jinos wrote:I'm largely disappointed people actually believe the Soviet Union collapsed due to some kind of inherent and irreversable flaw. Like, seriously? History is a track record of failed, brutal police states that just keep chugging. North Korea? China? Iran? Burma?
It was all Gorbachev. Maybe if his reforms had come slower, and started with economic benefits first before political freedoms, he could've kept the USSR together - maybe not as a Nation, but at least a Federation of States.
So being a police state does not end in doom.
But being an economic left country does.
No. North Korea still has a command economy.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:20 pmby Dracoria
Empire of Narnia wrote:greed and death wrote:So being a police state does not end in doom.
But being an economic left country does.
No. North Korea still has a command economy.
The current (non-Monarch, honest!) ruler controls everything from above with an iron fist, and directs the economy disproportionately toward the military. It's not a Command economy, it's a Command&Conquer economy.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:24 pmby Evil Grantica
Inherently flawed system plus Reagan plus Gorbachev not being nuts were the big three reasons.
Also, why no Chuck Norris option?
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:25 pmby L Ron Cupboard
Jinos wrote:I'm largely disappointed people actually believe the Soviet Union collapsed due to some kind of inherent and irreversable flaw. Like, seriously? History is a track record of failed, brutal police states that just keep chugging. North Korea? China? Iran? Burma?
Have any of those actually been a brutal police state for longer than the Soviet Union?
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:26 pmby Padnak
Burma looks like its going to keep rumbling until the end of time
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:32 pmby Maineiacs
Didn't
the Simpsons do this several years ago?
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:34 pmby ODMS Babel
I would say the Soviet Union was destroyed due to nationalism and the fact that their heavy-handed approach convinced people they were conquerors rather than liberators, which made everyone hate them. Unlike other Communist regimes, the Soviet Union was far more federal and kept ethnicity-based divisions in existence (as Republics rather than independent states, but still) which meant that the various nationalistic groups that wanted their countries to be separate from the USSR had easy already-made borders to fall back upon.