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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:39 pm

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Ew, Those Germans forgot Glorious Prussian marching style! D:

Funny, seeing as I've read somewhere people consider them, the Nationale Volksarmee, the successors to Prussian Glory, rather than the Bundeswehr of West Germany.

Tsss, commies and democrats both don't know anything about a good military march.
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Postby The balkens » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:41 pm

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If it weren't Putin, some asshole much worse would've taken over.

I am strongly reconsidering my view of the Russian communist party as i would likely favor them over this "United" Russia bullshit.

I agree.


Oh yes, a Russia would be better off without Putin putting his people and economy on the line. i saw a report that broke my heart that Russia's poor is being hit hard by these sanctions. Putin, however, is looking out for Russians outside of his country instead of the vulnerable in his own.

How fucking tragic, i wish i could donate food to them, especially St. Petersburg. it is such a lovely city.

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Postby The balkens » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:43 pm

Communist Volkstrad wrote:
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Ew, Those Germans forgot Glorious Prussian marching style! D:

Funny, seeing as I've read somewhere people consider them, the Nationale Volksarmee, the successors to Prussian Glory, rather than the Bundeswehr of West Germany.


The Bundeswehr adopted a style similar to the style, from what i can see.

Chile still holds true to the Military Traditions and it is still lovely to watch.

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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:44 pm

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Communist Volkstrad wrote:I agree.


Oh yes, a Russia would be better off without Putin putting his people and economy on the line. i saw a report that broke my heart that Russia's poor is being hit hard by these sanctions. Putin, however, is looking out for Russians outside of his country instead of the vulnerable in his own.

How fucking tragic, i wish i could donate food to them, especially St. Petersburg. it is such a lovely city.

Yeah. If there could be a socialist Russia, without all the bullshit oppression of the USSR, would be great and maybe they could put an end to all of Putin's shit. Hopefully then they can fix that little loophole in their constitution that lets Putin come back again, and again, and again.
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Postby The balkens » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:45 pm

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Oh yes, a Russia would be better off without Putin putting his people and economy on the line. i saw a report that broke my heart that Russia's poor is being hit hard by these sanctions. Putin, however, is looking out for Russians outside of his country instead of the vulnerable in his own.

How fucking tragic, i wish i could donate food to them, especially St. Petersburg. it is such a lovely city.

Yeah. If there could be a socialist Russia, without all the bullshit oppression of the USSR, would be great and maybe they could put an end to all of Putin's shit. Hopefully then they can fix that little loophole in their constitution that lets Putin come back again, and again, and again.


Putin must be that good at democracy. it seems.

He can stay in power until he dies, who knows what shit he will cause?

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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:47 pm

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Communist Volkstrad wrote:Yeah. If there could be a socialist Russia, without all the bullshit oppression of the USSR, would be great and maybe they could put an end to all of Putin's shit. Hopefully then they can fix that little loophole in their constitution that lets Putin come back again, and again, and again.


Putin must be that good at democracy. it seems.

He can stay in power until he dies, who knows what shit he will cause?

He does, of course, have to take the occasional break for a term to serve as prime minister. So he lets his puppets have a term before he takes another crack at it.
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Postby The balkens » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:50 pm

Communist Volkstrad wrote:
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Putin must be that good at democracy. it seems.

He can stay in power until he dies, who knows what shit he will cause?

He does, of course, have to take the occasional break for a term to serve as prime minister. So he lets his puppets have a term before he takes another crack at it.


I could tolerate Medvedev, he seemed likable.

But eh, UA is still holding on.

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:51 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:I knew their neo-Nazi undertones will be well met by you!


Modern infantry helmets such as the Advanced Combat Helmet and the PASGT which came before it, have been trending towards looking similar to the Stahlhelm because it is a helmet design that is very practical and works in protecting most of the skull. Hate anything Nazi inspired as you will, but the fact is that Germans were ahead of their time in some respects.
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Postby Lytenburgh » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:54 pm

2Balk and 2Korva

To reiterate:

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how many of examples cited by you two have "SS" symbol on them?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:56 pm

Seems most of you guys missed the SS Lightning Bolts on the Stalheim.
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Postby Lytenburgh » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:56 pm

The balkens wrote:
Oh yes, a Russia would be better off without Putin putting his people and economy on the line. i saw a report that broke my heart that Russia's poor is being hit hard by these sanctions. Putin, however, is looking out for Russians outside of his country instead of the vulnerable in his own.

How fucking tragic, i wish i could donate food to them, especially St. Petersburg. it is such a lovely city.


:blink:

Did those report also mention bears in ushankas ridin' unicycles on Moscow streests? Looks legit [nods]
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Postby Korva » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:57 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:2Balk and 2Korva

To reiterate:

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how many of examples cited by you two has "SS" symbol on them?

This picture stands as conclusive evidence that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis and imminent Russian intervention is necessary to save the Donbas, nay, the world!

Saiwania wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:I knew their neo-Nazi undertones will be well met by you!


Modern infantry helmets such as the Advanced Combat Helmet and the PASGT which came before it, have been trending towards looking similar to the Stahlhelm because it is a helmet design that is very practical and works in protecting most of the skull as well as the ears and neck. Hate anything Nazi inspired as you will, but the fact is that Germans were ahead of their time in some respects.

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Postby Herargon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:00 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:2Balk and 2Korva

To reiterate:

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how many of examples cited by you two has "SS" symbol on them?


Report in 3, 2, 1 ....
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Postby Korva » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:01 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Seems most of you guys missed the SS Lightning Bolts on the Stalheim.

Having the SS Lighting Bolts on your helmet makes you and all your countrymen Nazis :O
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:01 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Seems most of you guys missed the SS Lightning Bolts on the Stalheim.

You sure that isn't the symbol of the Electrical Engineering Corps?
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:02 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Seems most of you guys missed the SS Lightning Bolts on the Stalheim.

Honestly, I doubt if they didn't intentionally "fell" for the "bait"...
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Postby Aeken » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:12 pm

Does everyone know that the OSCE observers were shot at?

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Postby Lytenburgh » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:14 pm

Korva wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Seems most of you guys missed the SS Lightning Bolts on the Stalheim.

Having the SS Lighting Bolts on your helmet makes you and all your countrymen Nazis :O
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Sources of the photo? Proof that the one wering helmet is indeed OMOH trooper? Prove that it wasn't a photoshop*?

*In case of the Ukrainina NatzGuard - nope, it wasn't a photoshop. Definetely. They like SS division "Galitchina" and Stepan Bandera too much to make any secret of their neo-nazi leanings.
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:17 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Korva wrote:Having the SS Lighting Bolts on your helmet makes you and all your countrymen Nazis :O
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Sources of the photo? Proof that the one wering helmet is indeed OMOH trooper? Prove that it wasn't a photoshop*?

*In case of the Ukrainina NatzGuard - nope, it wasn't a photoshop. Definetely. They like SS division "Galitchina" and Stepan Bandera too much to make any secret of their neo-nazi leanings.

Can you prove that the NatzGuard was a real Natzguard and not just some guy posing for a picture with a bunch of old WW2-esque gear?
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Postby Herargon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:20 pm

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Postby Korva » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:21 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Korva wrote:Having the SS Lighting Bolts on your helmet makes you and all your countrymen Nazis :O
Image


Sources of the photo? Proof that the one wering helmet is indeed OMOH trooper? Prove that it wasn't a photoshop*?

*In case of the Ukrainina NatzGuard - nope, it wasn't a photoshop. Definetely. They like SS division "Galitchina" and Stepan Bandera too much to make any secret of their neo-nazi leanings.

From Russian language Esquire, during the 2007 Dissenters' March.

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Postby Herargon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:22 pm

Korva wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
Sources of the photo? Proof that the one wering helmet is indeed OMOH trooper? Prove that it wasn't a photoshop*?

*In case of the Ukrainina NatzGuard - nope, it wasn't a photoshop. Definetely. They like SS division "Galitchina" and Stepan Bandera too much to make any secret of their neo-nazi leanings.

From Russian language Esquire, during the 2007 Dissenters' March.



Excuse me, but do you have the source?
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Postby Herargon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:24 pm

Korva wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Excuse me, but do you have the source?

http://www.glasnost.se/2007/is-somethin ... he-mirror/



Photo isn't there?
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