Ukraine Megathread: Crimea River Build a Bridge, Get Over It

[United Marxist Nations]

Romney or Putin? I haven't seen Romney in a while, but I was surprised to find out he was in his sixties.

Putin.

Haven't paid that much attention to it, myself.

[Estruia]

Putin.

Haven't paid that much attention to it, myself.

He certainly doesn't look like he did at the peak of everyone's obsession with him.

[United Marxist Nations]

Haven't paid that much attention to it, myself.

He certainly doesn't look like he did at the peak of everyone's obsession with him.

Can you get something like a side-by-side?

[Estruia]

He certainly doesn't look like he did at the peak of everyone's obsession with him.

Can you get something like a side-by-side?

This is the best I can do.

2011

2014

[United Marxist Nations]

Can you get something like a side-by-side?

This is the best I can do.

2011

2014

Definitely looks different, might just be different resolutions though, because his head also looks shorter(?) in the second one.

[Estruia]

This is the best I can do.

2011

2014

Definitely looks different, might just be different resolutions though, because his head also looks shorter(?) in the second one.

That's because in the first one, the top of his head was cut off by the photographer. That can help extend the look of the face/head.

He's definitely either gained weight, or he is retaining A LOT of water.

[United Marxist Nations]

Definitely looks different, might just be different resolutions though, because his head also looks shorter(?) in the second one.

That's because in the first one, the top of his head was cut off by the photographer. That can help extend the look of the face/head.

He's definitely either gained weight, or he is retaining A LOT of water.

Not surprising for someone in their sixties, to be honest.

[Estruia]

That's because in the first one, the top of his head was cut off by the photographer. That can help extend the look of the face/head.

He's definitely either gained weight, or he is retaining A LOT of water.

Not surprising for someone in their sixties, to be honest.

Being that Putin has always seemed to pride himself on his physical form, I find it to be very surprising.

[Lyttenburg]

Not surprising for someone in their sixties, to be honest.

Being that Putin has always seemed to pride himself on his physical form, I find it to be very surprising.

Still much better then Obama:

[Estruia]

Being that Putin has always seemed to pride himself on his physical form, I find it to be very surprising.

Still much better then Obama:

Thank you for posting something that is entirely irrelevant.

To be honest, I'd take Obama over Putin ANY day.

[The balkens]

Still much better then Obama:

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Thank you for posting something that is entirely irrelevant.

To be honest, I'd take Obama over Putin ANY day.

i like my presidents like i like my coffee.

non-authoritarian.

Also, Putin-wanking much?

[United Marxist Nations]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

[The balkens]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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meh.

[Estruia]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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I guess that's why Russia has never been particularly skilled in the Art of Diplomacy.

[Baltenstein]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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Too be honest, the art style looks far too modern to be an actual WW2 poster.

[United Marxist Nations]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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Too be honest, the art style looks far too modern to be an actual WW2 poster.

It's not, but that doesn't stop it from being great.

[Aeken]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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Hitler's expression is funny.

[United Marxist Nations]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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Hitler's expression is funny.

It's the expression of a man who greatly underestimated the strength of the Soviet tank force and the resolve of the Soviet people.

[Lyttenburg]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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It's not as if the West wasn't trying:

[United Marxist Nations]

I've noticed Eurasia really likes artwork of their leaders punching opposing leaders.

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It's not as if the West wasn't trying:

Can't say I've seen that cartoon, but the Looney Tunes are hilarious. Personally, my favorite of them is "Bunker Hill Bunny". I will always remember the "I'm Sam von Sam, the Hessian."

[Lyttenburg]

Can't say I've seen that cartoon, but the Looney Tunes are hilarious. Personally, my favorite of them is "Bunker Hill Bunny". I will always remember the "I'm Sam von Sam, the Hessian."

The first one is from "Herr meets hare", the second from the "Russian Rhapsody". Have them on VHS since I was a kid, re-watched like a hundred times.

[United Marxist Nations]

Can't say I've seen that cartoon, but the Looney Tunes are hilarious. Personally, my favorite of them is "Bunker Hill Bunny". I will always remember the "I'm Sam von Sam, the Hessian."

The first one is from "Herr meets hare", the second from the "Russian Rhapsody". Have them on VHS since I was a kid, re-watched like a hundred times.

Oh, I didn't realize Looney Tunes had a following in the USSR / Russia. Though, granted, I don't know which would have been your childhood, and both were fairly pro-USSR since they were from the War.

[Constantinopolis]

A country being invaded/partially occupied and then not overwhelmingly voting the ethnonationalist Far Right is impressive. I don't think many European societies would react similarly under comparable circumstances.

Eh, what? Most European societies were placed under much worse circumstances between 1939 and 1945 - they didn't just get invaded, they got invaded by genocidal maniacs - and none of them responded by turning to ethnonationalism. On the contrary, they turned to the left. After the aforementioned genocidal maniacs were put in the ground where they belonged, left-wing parties swept into power in France, Italy, the UK, Czechoslovakia, and many other places.

[Baltenstein]

A country being invaded/partially occupied and then not overwhelmingly voting the ethnonationalist Far Right is impressive. I don't think many European societies would react similarly under comparable circumstances.

Eh, what? Most European societies were placed under much worse circumstances between 1939 and 1945 - they didn't just get invaded, they got invaded by genocidal maniacs - and none of them responded by turning to ethnonationalism. On the contrary, they turned to the left. After the aforementioned genocidal maniacs were put in the ground where they belonged, left-wing parties swept into power in France, Italy, the UK, Czechoslovakia, and many other places.

It would be foolish to deny that virtually all of the leftwing resistance movements in occupied Europe had a decidedly patriotic element in them. "German invaders - out of our country!" was the common credo, especially after the Soviet Union got invaded as well and Stalin abolished the Comintern's "Germany taboo". And it's not exactly 1945 - the Russian occupation of Ukrainian soil isn't over, nor will it be anytime soon by the looks of it.
After the war, the Communist Left was popular in countries like Italy and France, yes - but only because Communism in the late 40ies had a completely different Image from what it has now. You will notice that the "orthodox" (aka SU-praising) Left is completely marginalized in Europe these days.
And I don't see why things should be different in Ukraine. The CPU's poor results are their own fault - if they - and other Ukrainian Leftist parties - continue to identify positively with the Soviet Union (mirroring Putin's Russia) and generally behave like a Russian Fifth Column, it is a given that they will alienate the majority of Ukrainians.

[United Marxist Nations]

Eh, what? Most European societies were placed under much worse circumstances between 1939 and 1945 - they didn't just get invaded, they got invaded by genocidal maniacs - and none of them responded by turning to ethnonationalism. On the contrary, they turned to the left. After the aforementioned genocidal maniacs were put in the ground where they belonged, left-wing parties swept into power in France, Italy, the UK, Czechoslovakia, and many other places.

It would be foolish to deny that virtually all of the leftwing resistance movements in occupied Europe had a decidedly patriotic element in them. "German invaders - out of our country!" was the common credo, especially after the Soviet Union got invaded as well and Stalin abolished the Comintern's "Germany taboo". And it's not exactly 1945 - the Russian occupation of Ukrainian soil isn't over, nor will it be anytime soon by the looks of it.
After the war, the Communist Left was popular in countries like Italy and France, yes - but only because Communism in the late 40ies had a completely different Image from what it has now. You will notice that the "orthodox" (aka SU-praising) Left is completely marginalized in Europe these days.
And I don't see why things should be different in Ukraine. The CPU's poor results are their own fault - if they - and other Ukrainian Leftist parties - continue to identify positively with the Soviet Union (mirroring Putin's Russia) and generally behave like a Russian Fifth Column, it is a given that they will alienate the majority of Ukrainians.

But a lot of Ukrainians identify positively with the USSR, or at least with the Ukr SSR:
http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/12/05/con ... iet-union/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166538/forme ... eakup.aspx

Edit: note that Ukrainians are actually more likely to be Pro-Soviet than the Russians.