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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:I always get the vaccines. If they were not safe the government would not allow them to be given out. They do have safety tests for a reason after all.

And it's odd that after the mercury compound in the MMR vaccine that was supposed to be causing autism was eliminated autism diagnosis rates kept rising. Funny, huh?

That reminds me, if an anti-vaxxer is using a list from the CDC on vaccine components...then should that not be hypocritical of them?
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Postby Avenio » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:53 pm

Othelos wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:I am anti-vaccination, God made natural cures (herbs, spices, plants, ect,ect) in addition to prayer

feel free to swallow a plant or rub it on your body as you whither away, while the rest of us don't die from easily preventable diseases because we got vaccinated.


Natural selection at work.

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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:55 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Why is being anti-vaxx an option? Make vaccination compulsory, educate people on the ways vaccines have saved hundreds of millions (if not billions) of lives.

Because unfortunately the government loves to not make up its mind when it comes to personal choice (and how it will affect others) without being either idiotic or lambasted about it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:56 pm

Benuty wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And it's odd that after the mercury compound in the MMR vaccine that was supposed to be causing autism was eliminated autism diagnosis rates kept rising. Funny, huh?

That reminds me, if an anti-vaxxer is using a list from the CDC on vaccine components...then should that not be hypocritical of them?

How? It's a list of ingredients, evidence (to them) that vaccines are bad. There was some foolishness when Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey were carrying on about glycerine or glycol in vaccines ... Anti-freeze! or the "HCl" often seen in the names ... Hydrochloric acid!
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:57 pm

Avenio wrote:
Othelos wrote:feel free to swallow a plant or rub it on your body as you whither away, while the rest of us don't die from easily preventable diseases because we got vaccinated.


Natural selection at work.

It's just micro-evolution.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:57 pm

Benuty wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Why is being anti-vaxx an option? Make vaccination compulsory, educate people on the ways vaccines have saved hundreds of millions (if not billions) of lives.

Because unfortunately the government loves to not make up its mind when it comes to personal choice (and how it will affect others) without being either idiotic or lambasted about it.

Goddamnit, government.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:57 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Why is being anti-vaxx an option? Make vaccination compulsory, educate people on the ways vaccines have saved hundreds of millions (if not billions) of lives.

This.

I support vaccines whole heartedly. However, we could do something about the medicines with a mile-long list of deadly or disabling side-effects. I'm still waiting for the BAD DRUG commercial that says "If you or a loved one has had their head explode, you may be entitled to compensation."

I advocate natural medicines. Vaccines, being weakened forms of the virus, are 95% natural.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:58 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Why is being anti-vaxx an option? Make vaccination compulsory, educate people on the ways vaccines have saved hundreds of millions (if not billions) of lives.

In the U.S., states require children to be vaccinated in order to attend public school. However, all states except West Virginia and Mississippi allow religious exemption, and 20 other states allow parents to exempt on personal and philosophical objections.

I find these exemptions to be idiotic. It should be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, because anyone that isn't vaccinated poses a significant health risk to everyone around them.

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:I always get the vaccines. If they were not safe the government would not allow them to be given out. They do have safety tests for a reason after all.

And it's odd that after the mercury compound in the MMR vaccine that was supposed to be causing autism was eliminated autism diagnosis rates kept rising. Funny, huh?

I think that is because the anti-vaccine people had no proof it caused autism. Most of it is just a conspiracy theory from people who hate the government or corporations. I prefer to think the government actually cares about the health of the people.

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Postby Zanubiyala » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:59 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:I am anti-vaccination, God made natural cures (herbs, spices, plants, ect,ect) in addition to prayer

Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.
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Postby Othelos » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:59 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

Please provide evidence that vaccines are poisonous.

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Postby South Pacific Republic » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:00 pm

If you want to see something funny, look up "organic food causes autism" and go to images

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Postby Condunum » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:00 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine ,

So, you believe in bullshit.

I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

They do.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

Do you even know how vaccines work?

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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

Naturopathy is basically well respected quackery.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke. Please be a shitty joke.



Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

Doctors do and doctors recommend vaccination for preventable diseases.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Othelos wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:

Im not a shitty joke, I believe these chemicals scientists poison people with aint right.


I guess I am in naturopathy school of medicine , I believe doctors should take the Hippocratic Oath.

Please provide evidence that vaccines are poisonous.

Evidence? No, I want proof lol.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Othelos wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:I am anti-vaccination, God made natural cures (herbs, spices, plants, ect,ect) in addition to prayer

feel free to swallow a plant or rub it on your body as you whither away, while the rest of us don't die from easily preventable diseases because we got vaccinated.

Kind of reminds me, I was watching a show on Nat Geo about this family of "Old Believers" who fled the Soviet government in the late '20's because they thought that industrialization, along with the various social and healthcare related reforms it brought, were against God. When they were found in the 1960's, only one was left, who said that all of their relatives had died of some disease (can't remember what it was, but it was one of the ones that vaccines revolutionized treatment for), only to have the Soviet survey team that found them tell them that that disease was easily curable and preventable as early as the mid-'30's back in Western-USSR.
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Postby Zanubiyala » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Gauthier wrote:Anti vaccination would be Darwinism in action if the diseases actually infected the assholes promoting anti-vaccination instead of innocent kids.



Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:02 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Anti vaccination would be Darwinism in action if the diseases actually infected the assholes promoting anti-vaccination instead of innocent kids.



Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.

Prove that vaccines are carcinogenic.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:02 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Anti vaccination would be Darwinism in action if the diseases actually infected the assholes promoting anti-vaccination instead of innocent kids.



Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.

Do you have evidence to back your statement up?

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Zanubiyala
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Postby Zanubiyala » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Othelos wrote:feel free to swallow a plant or rub it on your body as you whither away, while the rest of us don't die from easily preventable diseases because we got vaccinated.

Kind of reminds me, I was watching a show on Nat Geo about this family of "Old Believers" who fled the Soviet government in the late '20's because they thought that industrialization, along with the various social and healthcare related reforms it brought, were against God. When they were found in the 1960's, only one was left, who said that all of their relatives had died of some disease (can't remember what it was, but it was one of the ones that vaccines revolutionized treatment for), only to have the Soviet survey team that found them tell them that that disease was easily curable and preventable as early as the mid-'30's back in Western-USSR.



The old believers?

You mean the Russian Orthodox sect?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:03 pm

Zanubiyala wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Anti vaccination would be Darwinism in action if the diseases actually infected the assholes promoting anti-vaccination instead of innocent kids.



Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.

Are you aware that chemicals are pretty much in a lot of places?
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:04 pm

Benuty wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:

Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.

Are you aware that chemicals are pretty much in a lot of places?

Everything is chemical.
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My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
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Postby Zanubiyala » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:04 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Zanubiyala wrote:

Well really vaccination is social-darwinism, because your injecting chemicals and carcinogens into small children.

Do you have evidence to back your statement up?


Yes, I do.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035080_vacci ... _pets.html
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