Teacher Suspended, Incarcerated For Science Fiction Story

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

I think you missed the meat of that post. Say the name of the school out loud.

"Cross of fire". Is that a KKK reference and why isn't the school using that as an excuse to suspend him?

I thought it was "Crossfire".

[Lavan Tiri]

"Cross of fire". Is that a KKK reference and why isn't the school using that as an excuse to suspend him?

I thought it was "Crossfire".

I read Kroas-fear.

[Nazi Flower Power]

How many of you have used aliases and why? Try answering that one.

My dad has. Because he's a writer and it sometimes makes a difference in marketing books. He initially used a pen name to avoid confusion with another author who had the same name. Later on, he used different names when writing in different genres.

It's something a lot of writers do. Actors, artists, and musicians often do as well.

[Cannot think of a name]

How many of you have used aliases and why? Try answering that one.

My dad has. Because he's a writer and it sometimes makes a difference in marketing books. He initially used a pen name to avoid confusion with another author who had the same name. Later on, he used different names when writing in different genres.

It's something a lot of writers do. Actors, artists, and musicians often do as well.

And every single one of us on this forum...

[Tekania]

I think you missed the meat of that post. Say the name of the school out loud.

"Cross of fire". Is that a KKK reference and why isn't the school using that as an excuse to suspend him?

Because, I imagine while the superintendent is a fucking dumbass... he's not quite reached THAT level of absolute idiocy.

Though if they did, It would have been fun....... get to pull out the Clayton Bigsby references.

[Gauthier]

"Cross of fire". Is that a KKK reference and why isn't the school using that as an excuse to suspend him?

Because, I imagine while the superintendent is a fucking dumbass... he's not quite reached THAT level of absolute idiocy.

Though if they did, It would have been fun....... get to pull out the Clayton Bigsby references.

"Why don't you tell your friend that he's black?"
"Are you kidding? If he found out he was black he would kill himself to have one less n****r in the world. He's that committed to the cause."

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

My dad has. Because he's a writer and it sometimes makes a difference in marketing books. He initially used a pen name to avoid confusion with another author who had the same name. Later on, he used different names when writing in different genres.

It's something a lot of writers do. Actors, artists, and musicians often do as well.

And every single one of us on this forum...

I guess I should confess, Nationes Pii Redivivi is not my real name.

[Fralinia]

Does this make Anne Frank a Nazi, or George Orwell an authoritarian? The idea that an author's work is representative of their beliefs and that they can be held accountable and punishable for them is something out of the Middle Ages, not the modern world.

[Lavan Tiri]

And every single one of us on this forum...

I guess I should confess, Nationes Pii Redivivi is not my real name.

Gais. Gais.

my name ain't Lavan Tiri

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Sadly enough, my name IS Yumyumsuppertime. Bastard parents.

[Nazi Flower Power]

My dad has. Because he's a writer and it sometimes makes a difference in marketing books. He initially used a pen name to avoid confusion with another author who had the same name. Later on, he used different names when writing in different genres.

It's something a lot of writers do. Actors, artists, and musicians often do as well.

And every single one of us on this forum...

Hm... My name probably sounds very suspicious, me being a Nazi and all... I should be more careful.

[Imperializt Russia]

That's possibly the most pathetic of all the inferences to pick up on.

Wait...what is it you think I'm actually saying with the initial post you quoted?

That giving a school a name that sounds similar to "crossfire" is somehow egregious.

How many of you have used aliases and why? Try answering that one.

My dad has. Because he's a writer and it sometimes makes a difference in marketing books. He initially used a pen name to avoid confusion with another author who had the same name. Later on, he used different names when writing in different genres.

It's something a lot of writers do. Actors, artists, and musicians often do as well.

Winston Churchill was not only the name of Britain's wartime Prime Minister, but also an American writer.
There exists a rather funny exchange of letters between the two where both refer to themselves in the third person, and one or the other agrees to go by "Winston S. Churchill" and the other just by "Winston Churchill", I think. The other winnie might have gone for "C. Churchill".

And every single one of us on this forum...

I guess I should confess, Nationes Pii Redivivi is not my real name.

Personally, I wear many hats.

[Tekania]

Does this make Anne Frank a Nazi, or George Orwell an authoritarian? The idea that an author's work is representative of their beliefs and that they can be held accountable and punishable for them is something out of the Middle Ages, not the modern world.

Well, George Orwell is an alias.... so clearly he has something to hide and should be committed.

[Imperializt Russia]

Does this make Anne Frank a Nazi, or George Orwell an authoritarian? The idea that an author's work is representative of their beliefs and that they can be held accountable and punishable for them is something out of the Middle Ages, not the modern world.

Blame the Patriot Act.
https://www.aclu.org/national-security/ ... atriot-act
Surveillance orders can be based in part on a person's First Amendment activities, such as the books they read, the Web sites they visit, or a letter to the editor they have written.

[Fralinia]

Does this make Anne Frank a Nazi, or George Orwell an authoritarian? The idea that an author's work is representative of their beliefs and that they can be held accountable and punishable for them is something out of the Middle Ages, not the modern world.

Well, George Orwell is an alias.... so clearly he has something to hide and should be committed.

Obviously. To believe otherwise would be thoughtcrime.

[Cannot think of a name]

Wait...what is it you think I'm actually saying with the initial post you quoted?

That giving a school a name that sounds similar to "crossfire" is somehow egregious.

You appear to have taken the complaint more seriously than it was ever intended. You perhaps should have read the comment it was in response to, which was a stylistic joke about the choice of covers. It was in this vein that I cracked that naming the place a book about a shooting takes place in 'crossfire' is far goofier than the cover, sort of like naming a character who has to face an life decision "Willie Beaman." Because, regardless of the reaction the school had to this book, that's like a parody name The Simpsons would give a something in a McBain movie.

Any reading further into it was never intended or implied. If you're looking for someone to defend the school's reaction or have a serious opinion about this book, you'll have to find someone else.

[New Nassrau]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

And a missive about a bunch of young lads trapped in an Island and hunting each other in wild abandon by a schoolteacher is required reading.

[Benuty]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

Still...that was three years ago, why freak out now?

[Imperializt Russia]

That giving a school a name that sounds similar to "crossfire" is somehow egregious.

You appear to have taken the complaint more seriously than it was ever intended. You perhaps should have read the comment it was in response to, which was a stylistic joke about the choice of covers. It was in this vein that I cracked that naming the place a book about a shooting takes place in 'crossfire' is far goofier than the cover, sort of like naming a character who has to face an life decision "Willie Beaman." Because, regardless of the reaction the school had to this book, that's like a parody name The Simpsons would give a something in a McBain movie.

Any reading further into it was never intended or implied. If you're looking for someone to defend the school's reaction or have a serious opinion about this book, you'll have to find someone else.

Very well, I completely apologise.

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

And a missive about a bunch of young lads trapped in an Island and hunting each other in wild abandon by a schoolteacher is required reading.

No-one ever said that zero-tolerance practices had to be, are or would ever be rational on any level.

[Tekania]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

My worrying about that would extend to: "What is the story about?" and then when knowing what I do know about the story going "Okay, nothing to worry about then."

That's why I like my wife's school system.... unless you actually read a novel in full, or actually watch a movie in full before submitting a complaint about it.... you will get to watch them throw it in the trash and tell you to come back when you have read the whole story or watch the whole movie. In short, if it's just a reactionary opinion that is not informed on facts.... it will be treated like trash and discarded.

[Gauthier]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

How many school shootings involved the teacher doing the shooting?

[Imperializt Russia]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

My worrying about that would extend to: "What is the story about?" and then when knowing what I do know about the story going "Okay, nothing to worry about then."

That's why I like my wife's school system.... unless you actually read a novel in full, or actually watch a movie in full before submitting a complaint about it.... you will get to watch them throw it in the trash and tell you to come back when you have read the whole story or watch the whole movie. In short, if it's just a reactionary opinion that is not informed on facts.... it will be treated like trash and discarded.

There is a solution to this.
Tekania for president.

[Tekania]

Well, to be fair, a teacher writing about massive school shootings is a bit worrying...

How many school shootings involved the teacher doing the shooting?

Hold on, I'm trying to find out....... give me a a bit here.... best I've come to so far is an accidental pellet gun shooting of a student by a teacher in the UK a couple years back.... seems to be very rare... but I'm unsure if it's ZERO at this point.

[Imperializt Russia]

How many school shootings involved the teacher doing the shooting?

Hold on, I'm trying to find out....... give me a a bit here.... best I've come to so far is an accidental pellet gun shooting of a student by a teacher in the UK a couple years back.... seems to be very rare... but I'm unsure if it's ZERO at this point.

http://web.archive.org/web/201308231632 ... lence.html
Here's the ten school years from August 1 1999 to July 31 2010 (just misses the Columbine shooting).
284 deaths on K-12 school property or at K-12 school events, compiled from news reports, in this ten year period. 130 shooting fatalities.

A year-by-year breakdown is offered down the page of each incident. I happen to know that one of those incidents is a woman walking past a school at night who is killed, so not all of these are "school fatalities" as we may imagine them.
Almost certainly, one incident will be of a teacher.