What if the Macedonian Empire didn't collapse?

[Dajing (Ancient)]

Exactly, later Persian empires posed a bigger threat than Macedonia ever did.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

Everyone gets replaced.

Nope. China is still here. Persia (Iran) is still here. You've got Turkey now, but they'll probably reconcile with Iran.

[Cetatsenia]

Exactly, later Persian empires posed a bigger threat than Macedonia ever did.

They posed a bigger threat because the massive Macedonian Empire of Alexander no longer existed.

Everyone gets replaced.

Nope. China is still here. Persia (Iran) is still here. You've got Turkey now, but they'll probably reconcile with Iran.

Iran hasn't been a single continuous political entity for its entire existence, and I don't believe China has either.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

They posed a bigger threat because the massive Macedonian Empire of Alexander no longer existed.

I don't think successors were significantly smaller.

[Nazis in Space]

I find it highly unlikely that Alexander would be able to have made it to Indochina.

The Vietnamese were always far too tough to conquer.

The Chinese, Mongols, and Americans may have failed.

France, however, succeeded.

Don't fuck with France.

and the jews would had continued to assist the Macedonians - as long as the empire was strictly Jewish.

Why would the Macedonian elite en masse convert to Judaism?

Because they hate penises?

[The Serbian Empire]

Macedonian hoplites would have crushed the Romans. Either that, or Romans didn't destroy Carthage!

[Napkiraly]

Everyone gets replaced.

Nope. China is still here. Persia (Iran) is still here. You've got Turkey now, but they'll probably reconcile with Iran.

Not their maximum territorial extent.

Of course none of this has any bearing on Alexander's legitimacy.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

Not their maximum territorial extent.

So what.

Of course none of this has any bearing on Alexander's legitimacy.

Greece is a coastal enclave remnant of misogynists.

[Pope Joan]

Rome never did beat Persia. If Persia were, in this scenario, a functioning part of Macedonia, Rome would lose.

We would have amazing culture, arts, athletics, trade, and lots of gay sex.

[The Serbian Empire]

Nope. China is still here. Persia (Iran) is still here. You've got Turkey now, but they'll probably reconcile with Iran.

Not their maximum territorial extent.

Of course none of this has any bearing on Alexander's legitimacy.

Even the US is an empire past it's prime as it gave up the Philippines after WWII.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

We would have amazing culture, arts, athletics, trade, and lots of gay sex.

More than you could ever imagine.

[New Nassrau]

The Diadochi were the main reason for his collapse. If the Macedonian Empire was to the extent in your timeline, most of Asia and Europe would be ravaged by wars by rival generals

[Estenia]

It isd impossible because Alexander was the leader of the Army and no one had his skills, Macedonia would collapse on 120 BC. Also an impossible think is for the creation of a Greek Khaganate(Khanate) because most of us Greeks are not muslims, we are Christians so a Kingdom or an empire would likely be more possible.

[Monkeykind]

It isd impossible because Alexander was the leader of the Army and no one had his skills, Macedonia would collapse on 120 BC. Also an impossible think is for the creation of a Greek Khaganate(Khanate) because most of us Greeks are not muslims, we are Christians so a Kingdom or an empire would likely be more possible.

The Greek Khanate is a christian Khanate.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

The Greek Khanate is a christian Khanate.

The Mongols wouldn't conquer friggen Byzantium.

[Nazis in Space]

Rome never did beat Persia.

I believe Trajan would question your assertion.

Not only him, actually, given that the Romans sacked the Parthian capital three times.

Sure, the Romans never managed to completely subjugate the Parthians, but their net result is positive.

[Conserative Morality]

*cough*

[Conserative Morality]

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The Mongols wouldn't conquer friggen Byzantium.

Why not? The Turks did it, and they were far more typical in their manner of combat and conquest than the Mongolians.

[Camelza]

Byzantium wouldn't exist. :/

[Lunas Legion]

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The Mongols wouldn't conquer friggen Byzantium.

Why not? The Turks did it, and they were far more typical in their manner of combat and conquest than the Mongolians.

Byzantium committed suicide with Turkish and Venetian assistance.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

Why not? The Turks did it, and they were far more typical in their manner of combat and conquest than the Mongolians.

They did it after sieges years and years.

[Lunas Legion]

Why not? The Turks did it, and they were far more typical in their manner of combat and conquest than the Mongolians.

They did it after sieges years and years.

And? Does length of time render a conquest meaningless?

[Camelza]

Why not? The Turks did it, and they were far more typical in their manner of combat and conquest than the Mongolians.

They did it after sieges years and years.

Nah, after their victory in Manzikert in 1071 they just tried to settle in Anatolia for a couple of centuries, having occasional wars with the Roman Empire, but not trying to "conquer it". It was not until the rise of the Ottoman dynasty that Turks went on a conquering mood again.

[Dajing (Ancient)]

And? Does length of time render a conquest meaningless?

No, their inability to really take on the mantle of Byzantium renders it meaningless. They should have gone apeshit and declared themselves Orthodox.

[Lydenburg]

They did it after sieges years and years.

Nah, after their victory in Manzikert in 1071 they just tried to settle in Anatolia for a couple of centuries, having occasional wars with the Roman Empire, but not trying to "conquer it". It was not until the rise of the Ottoman dynasty that Turks went on a conquering mood again.

The Crusades kept them distracted.