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Burleson wrote:What in the hell is wrong with Seattle??? Really, they put up a statue of a violent revolutionist that hated capitalism with a burning passion. Why is Seattle even part of America, they clearly don't like America so why don't they just succeed. America is better off without those idiots and they can live on their own without these Americans that they hate so much.

And while we have a statue of Lenin, why not have a statue of Hitler or Castro?

I can't tell if you're joking or not. I'm going to assume you aren't.

It was just a bit of fun that one guy had, when he found a big bronze statue. It doesn't make the entire city a bunch of America-hating commies.
Also, it's secede, not succeed.

Neutraligon wrote:Let them keep it, it's a bit of history.

What about a Hitler statue?
I'm sure that Jewish, communist, gypsie, Russian, Polish and others would really appreciate it.

Jumalariik wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:Let them keep it, it's a bit of history.

What about a Hitler statue?
I'm sure that Jewish, communist, gypsie, Russian, Polish and others would really appreciate it.

Depends, was it made at the time? Don't forget that the different concentration camps allow visitors.

Seattle is infested with communists. News at 11.

Burleson wrote:What in the hell is wrong with Seattle??? Really, they put up a statue of a violent revolutionist that hated capitalism with a burning passion. Why is Seattle even part of America, they clearly don't like America so why don't they just succeed. America is better off without those idiots and they can live on their own without these Americans that they hate so much.

And while we have a statue of Lenin, why not have a statue of Hitler or Castro?

I don't know, seems they are succeeding just fine.

The New Sea Territory wrote:

Murkwood wrote:The man behind the Red Terror does not deserve a statue like this.

These assholes don't either...

Statues of controversial people are made all the time.

I found the Bushes to be particularly good presidents ( of course they made mistakes, everyone does), and I think they will have more of a legacy than our current President will ever.

I really don't see a problem with it. Might be better off in a history museum, but it doesn't really matter to me.

Burleson wrote:What in the hell is wrong with Seattle??? Really, they put up a statue of a violent revolutionist that hated capitalism with a burning passion. Why is Seattle even part of America, they clearly don't like America so why don't they just succeed. America is better off without those idiots and they can live on their own without these Americans that they hate so much.

And while we have a statue of Lenin, why not have a statue of Hitler or Castro?

Oh my! There is a statue of a communist in Seattle! All Seattlians must be anti-American commies!

Well, aren't you a caricature.

Civilana wrote:The Seattle people dress it in drag, string it with Christmas lights, or make it into a clown.

I am perfectly okay with this. That's fair justice to such a monster.

TurtleShroom wrote:

Civilana wrote:The Seattle people dress it in drag, string it with Christmas lights, or make it into a clown.

I am perfectly okay with this. That's fair justice to such a monster.

Lenin in drag. Now that'd be a sight.

Neutraligon wrote:

Jumalariik wrote:What about a Hitler statue?
I'm sure that Jewish, communist, gypsie, Russian, Polish and others would really appreciate it.

Depends, was it made at the time? Don't forget that the different concentration camps allow visitors.

This conversation is over.
What would you say if the Hitler statue was in a Jewish neighborhood?
Oh, it's just history.
People don't always want history shoved in their faces all the time, newsflash.

Jumalariik wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:
Depends, was it made at the time? Don't forget that the different concentration camps allow visitors.

This conversation is over.
What would you say if the Hitler statue was in a Jewish neighborhood?
Oh, it's just history.
People don't always want history shoved in their faces all the time, newsflash.

*nods*

Jumalariik wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:
Depends, was it made at the time? Don't forget that the different concentration camps allow visitors.

This conversation is over.
What would you say if the Hitler statue was in a Jewish neighborhood?
Oh, it's just history.
People don't always want history shoved in their faces all the time, newsflash.

Again it depends, most likely I would request it be moved (if the rest of the neighborhood agreed). Seems to me the people of Seattle don't mind it being there. You do realize I am Jewish by the way.

Herrebrugh wrote:

Burleson wrote:[...]

And while we have a statue of Lenin, why not have a statue of Hitler or Castro?

Oh my! There is a statue of a communist in Seattle! All Seattlians must be anti-American commies!

Well, aren't you a caricature.

Wrong. Seattle has elected avowed Marxists to its City Council. All of Seattle may not be Marxist idiots, but if there's enough retards to elect Marxist trash to the city government, the city clearly has a Marxist tumor leeching off of it.

Honestly though, I don't see why you guys are making such a fuss over this!


To be honest, Lenin's ideas were not that bad, socialism and, as a matter of fact, capitalism can work if applied correctly, I mean look at the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden (and Finland, which isn't exactly Scandinavian), these nations have managed to govern themselves with a successful mixture of capitalism and socialism. Which sounds almost exactly like liberalism.

TurtleShroom wrote:

Herrebrugh wrote:
Oh my! There is a statue of a communist in Seattle! All Seattlians must be anti-American commies!

Well, aren't you a caricature.

Wrong. Seattle has elected avowed Marxists to its City Council All of Seattle may not be, but if there's enough idiots to elect Marxist trash to the city government, the city clearly has a Marxist tumor leeching off of it.

What horror! There is someone in the Seattle city council that doesn't cum all over capitalism!

Honestly. I've heard America's still a democracy. If people in Seattle want a Marxist in their city council, then why the fuck should I care?

Why can't I have a Francisco Franco statue?

Herrebrugh wrote:

TurtleShroom wrote:
Wrong. Seattle has elected avowed Marxists to its City Council All of Seattle may not be, but if there's enough idiots to elect Marxist trash to the city government, the city clearly has a Marxist tumor leeching off of it.

What horror! There is someone in the Seattle city council that doesn't cum all over capitalism!

Well... that's a nasty image...

Neutraligon wrote:Seems to me the people of Seattle don't mind it being there.

Most of Seattle is either leftist or Marxist. Most (but not all) of them are too stupid to see anything but one of their heroes there. -and I have proof. They have elected Marxists to office under Red parties.

TurtleShroom wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:Seems to me the people of Seattle don't mind it being there.

Most of Seattle is either leftist or Marxist. Most (but not all) of them are too stupid to see anything but one of their heroes there. -and I have proof. They have elected Marxists to office under Red parties.

You are aware this could be considered flaming, as we have Marxists on this forum, right? Also, nice non-sequitur.

Neutraligon wrote:Nice non-sequitur.

How does saying that Seattle has a ton of Marxists because they have successfully elected a Marxist to their City Council even remotely a Nonsquitur? The first statement (Marxism heavilly infests Seattle) is directly supported by the second statement (this must be true because their City Council has an official Marxist from a Marxist party in its ranks).

TurtleShroom wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:Seems to me the people of Seattle don't mind it being there.

Most of Seattle is either leftist or Marxist. Most (but not all) of them are too stupid to see anything but one of their heroes there. -and I have proof. They have elected Marxists to office under Red parties.

As I said earlier, to be honest, Lenin's ideas were not that bad, socialism and, as a matter of fact, capitalism can work if applied correctly, I mean look at the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden (and Finland, which isn't exactly Scandinavian), these nations have managed to govern themselves with a successful mixture of capitalism and socialism. Which sounds almost exactly like liberalism.

Burleson wrote:What in the hell is wrong with Seattle??? Really, they put up a statue of a violent revolutionist that hated capitalism with a burning passion. Why is Seattle even part of America, they clearly don't like America so why don't they just succeed. America is better off without those idiots and they can live on their own without these Americans that they hate so much.

And while we have a statue of Lenin, why not have a statue of Hitler or Castro?

I've been trying for a while to determine whether or not this is a joke statement.

TurtleShroom wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:Nice non-sequitur.

How does saying that Seattle has a ton of Marxists because they have successfully elected a Marxist to their City Council even remotely a Nonsquitur? The first statement (Marxism heavilly infests Seattle) is directly supported by the second statement (this must be true because their City Council has an official Marxist from a Marxist party in its ranks).

Because has little relation to whether or not the town wants the statue to be there.

Neutraligon wrote:

Jumalariik wrote:This conversation is over.
What would you say if the Hitler statue was in a Jewish neighborhood?
Oh, it's just history.
People don't always want history shoved in their faces all the time, newsflash.

Again it depends, most likely I would request it be moved (if the rest of the neighborhood agreed). Seems to me the people of Seattle don't mind it being there. You do realize I am Jewish by the way.

I fail to see how you being Jewish is relevant. It doesn't make you any more correct or insightful on the matter. I assume that you were not a victim of Hitler's.

Keep it, why not? While I really don't like Lenin or communism in general, anyone ever heard of Freedom of Speech? Anyone? Especially you conservatives? It seems to me that the conservatives are the ones opposed to the statue, but they profess to loving the constitution! What!? First Amendment!

(FYI: I slightly identify as a conservative, but much more so as a libertarian)

What if it was a statue of Hitler? Pol Pot? Stalin? Keep it! If it were to be in private property, the government shouldn't be able to do anything about it.

In public property, although, the slope becomes a little slippery. If the community wants it down, then they should express their opinion via city council meetings, rallies, and protests. The city then would eventually take the appropriate actions. If no one cares, just leave it up!