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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:03 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
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No they aren't, they're safety features.


Perhaps in public schools. My view is a little skewed, I go to a private school.


No, they're safety features everywhere. The funding mechanism of the school has no impact on that.

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No they aren't, they're safety features.



Well, most of them aren't safety features. What safety issue is created by a male wearing a skirt (that doesn't exist with females wearing skirts)?


I'm talking about uniforms/dress codes in general, not this specific dress code. The existence of some kind of uniform/dress code is an important safety feature. The existence of shit stupid uniform/dress code rules is shit stupid.
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Postby WestRedMaple » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:52 am

greed and death wrote:
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Well, most of them aren't safety features. What safety issue is created by a male wearing a skirt (that doesn't exist with females wearing skirts)?

The male part touching the ground if ti gets out of the confines of its briefs.



If your "male part" is the length of your leg, maybe a big, baggy pair of sweatpants IS your best bet

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Postby WestRedMaple » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:55 am

Maqo wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:Well, most of them aren't safety features. What safety issue is created by a male wearing a skirt (that doesn't exist with females wearing skirts)?


Other people become safety hazards because they will hit you for wearing a skirt.
In this case, the school is protecting its students from each other by making sure none make themselves easy targets. Yeah yeah, people don't 'deserve' to get bullied, but kids (and a lot of adults) will do it no matter what. You punish the offender but you also try to mitigate the risk of it happening again.

Social conformity is actually a huge deal.

I know its totally hip and cool to be all free and 'everyone should have the right to walk around doing whatever they want and everyone should accept them', but the truth is people aren't that tolerant and won't always accept you. People are racist and sexist and ageist and whatever-else-ist and will pass you over as an employee or as a partner for no better reason than that you are shorter than another person. Better dressed and groomed people get more money in the vast majority of professions. The guys with straight-back-and-sides wearing suits are the ones on 6+ figures while the guys with spacers in their ears and spikes in their lips are the ones working at McDonalds thinking about how horribly oppressive society is and that we should be accepting of their nudism.



Ah, so to make a safe school, then get rid of the criminals among the school body, and there won't be an issue.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:07 am

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greed and death wrote:The male part touching the ground if ti gets out of the confines of its briefs.



If your "male part" is the length of your leg, maybe a big, baggy pair of sweatpants IS your best bet

You mean everyone's isn't that large ? :blink:
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:14 am

WestRedMaple wrote:
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No they aren't, they're safety features.



Well, most of them aren't safety features. What safety issue is created by a male wearing a skirt (that doesn't exist with females wearing skirts)?

Dress codes do not have to be safety features.
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Postby Rebellious Fishermen » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
District XIV wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Fish

He's implying that fat children eat Swedish Fish in movie theaters :p

Well.. that was actually no where near as bad as i thought it would go..

Huh.


I found it pretty funny.

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Postby Maqo » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:22 am

WestRedMaple wrote:Ah, so to make a safe school, then get rid of the criminals among the school body, and there won't be an issue.


Sure thing! We call that 'expulsion' and it happens to students who break the rules.
Fortunately for the expelled student though, we have decided as a society that children should be educated so they hopefully don't have to become *real* criminals, so they just get to find another school to go back in to.

There are of course other obvious problems, like the fact that children have an annoying habit of more being born every year. And the ones that are born, don't come with easy 'this one is a criminal' identifications on them to expel them early. Some of them only become jerks later on in life!
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Postby WestRedMaple » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:22 am

greed and death wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:

If your "male part" is the length of your leg, maybe a big, baggy pair of sweatpants IS your best bet

You mean everyone's isn't that large ? :blink:



Nope, and a good thing too, I don't think my wife would have stuck around ;)

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:23 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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Follow your dreams then, I'm just very skeptical.


My dreams? That has nothing to do with my dreams. I'm already settled with a wife and child, and I've never worn dreads. We're talking about this young man.

Admit it, you dream of one day rocking some epic dreads.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:24 am

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My dreams? That has nothing to do with my dreams. I'm already settled with a wife and child, and I've never worn dreads. We're talking about this young man.

Admit it, you dream of one day rocking some epic dreads.

"Had a dream, I had dreads, I woke up, still dreads"
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Postby WestRedMaple » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:25 am

Maqo wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:Ah, so to make a safe school, then get rid of the criminals among the school body, and there won't be an issue.


Sure thing! We call that 'expulsion' and it happens to students who break the rules.
Fortunately for the expelled student though, we have decided as a society that children should be educated so they hopefully don't have to become *real* criminals, so they just get to find another school to go back in to.

There are of course other obvious problems, like the fact that children have an annoying habit of more being born every year. And the ones that are born, don't come with easy 'this one is a criminal' identifications on them to expel them early. Some of them only become jerks later on in life!



How does simply moving a violent criminal to a different room of victims change anything?

Do you really think a bully would magically change into a little angel if only some certain trigger didn't exist? Even when children wear identical clothing, bullying still occurs, so I'm pretty sure clothing isn't the cause.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:13 am

Rebellious Fishermen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well.. that was actually no where near as bad as i thought it would go..

Huh.


I found it pretty funny.

I just expected it to lead to something... else is all. But i was pleasantly surprised it did not.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:31 am

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Canaore wrote:First of all, Rastafarianism isn't a religion. It's a cult. Second, I find it hard to believe that the student in question takes Rastafarianism seriously. He's probably just a pothead teenager who "converted" to Rastafarianism because "420 blaze it". Third, if his hairstyle was disrupting the class, the school had all the right to suspend him.

Lets see... if Jesus was only alive now and was preaching about things and his followers regarded him as 'the son of god', him and his followers would be viewed as 'a cult'.

Now I'll let you process that for a little while...


Jesus would be cracked down today for preaching socialist creeds like Helping the Poor, It Is Easier For a Camel to Go Though the Eye of a Needle Than It Is For a Rich Man to Enter Heaven, Healing the sick without charging them a premium, Beating up moneylenders...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:54 am

Gauthier wrote:
District XIV wrote:Lets see... if Jesus was only alive now and was preaching about things and his followers regarded him as 'the son of god', him and his followers would be viewed as 'a cult'.

Now I'll let you process that for a little while...


Jesus would be cracked down today for preaching socialist creeds like Helping the Poor, It Is Easier For a Camel to Go Though the Eye of a Needle Than It Is For a Rich Man to Enter Heaven, Healing the sick without charging them a premium, Beating up moneylenders...

Being nice to tax collectors wouldn't be a popular move.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
My dreams? That has nothing to do with my dreams. I'm already settled with a wife and child, and I've never worn dreads. We're talking about this young man.

Admit it, you dream of one day rocking some epic dreads.


Well, of course, but there's a touch of male pattern baldness setting in that may put a permanent kibosh on those dreams. There's also the fact that I really like mocking white guys with dreads.

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Postby Threlizdun » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:17 pm

So they are discriminating against religion and sex and preventing people from expressing themselves in any way other than a uniform, gentrified manner? Yeah, fuck them.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:15 am

Let the boys have long hair. Not all long haired boys are gay, Satan worshipers, or drug addicts (as the school may fear).

Nelson had long hair and few problems:

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Postby Magna Libero » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:26 am

"John Doe"? Haha, how... proletariat-sounding? :p

Lol, private education would probably be the best anyway. A hairstyle is a reason enough to not let someone attend school? Ridiculous, that's not very efficient and not very nice either, I'm afraid...
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:35 am

Magna Libero wrote:"John Doe"? Haha, how... proletariat-sounding? :p

What?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:00 am

Magna Libero wrote:"John Doe"? Haha, how... proletariat-sounding? :p

Lol, private education would probably be the best anyway. A hairstyle is a reason enough to not let someone attend school? Ridiculous, that's not very efficient and not very nice either, I'm afraid...

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Magna Libero wrote:"John Doe"? Haha, how... proletariat-sounding? :p

What?

Looks like eh thinks that is the child's actual name.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:09 am

Chase them crazy baldheads out of town.
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Postby Perntopia » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:09 am

2 things. One, this is America you CANNOT do that. There is a bill of rights. 2. And is his name really John Doe?
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Postby Ayreonia » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:02 am

I'm guessing the school's problem is that if they allowed this "John Doe" to have dreads, they would have to let kids wear other "disruptive" hairstyles. And it doesn't look like a place that would want to do that.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:06 am

Perntopia wrote:2 things. One, this is America you CANNOT do that. There is a bill of rights. 2. And is his name really John Doe?

Of course his name isn't John Doe. They aren't using his real name to protect his identity.
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