Public Opinion on Transgender Persons

[Hakio]

Please, don't use that term. I realize you aren't trying to offend but it is a slur. Call them trans or transgender.

I changed it sorry

It's okay, transgender social issues are not as socially understood and misunderstandings are bound to happen.

[United Regions of Verona]

Stop flaming/trolling, please.

check yourself
It's unfortunate that the internet has devolved so much to actually support transgenderism.
honestly I thought I'd never see the day that we threw out morality and logic completely.

Not accepting transgender and the rest of the many letters LGBQ+ (no t because I just talked about transgenders) is "morally" wrong

[Jormengand]

why don't the get surgery to "fix" it. I know its gotta be expensive thought.

Yeah, in many countries it is, and in almost all you have to wade through miles of red tape.

I wonder have they ever studied the chemicals in the brain of a Trans-gender person or Homosexual to see if there are any differences?

Yeah, they have.

[Slarvainian]

kill yourselves
disgusting sheep, devoid of reason, logic, and morality.
line up the faggots and put them in front of a firing squad, it is the only solution, it is the solution.

I kind of wish I was a sheep at times. I have a feeling it would be like being emerged in a cloud.

Well I'll give you the basic moral argument of why doing this is "wrong". There's no facts to support that being gay or transgender is bad for society and unnatural. Therefore, I'm sure you wouldn't want to be lined up and killed based on a irrelevant feature such as your eye colour, meaning that your "solution" is morally wrong.

[Trezchoix]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

[United Regions of Verona]

~delort~

[Fanosolia]

We have to be patient with one another. Remember most of us aren't used to to trans, gender neutral, or some other person term because we're not taught with them in mind. We're not doing it on purpose, this is new to us.

Look, but that is basically not wrong. You are unaware (yet) about that in this world you got 7 billion individuals, and that everyone is different.

Try to hold up in you mind of people who you not know that the person maybe can be trans* or non-binary. Try to use so less terms as 'him' and 'her' until you know sure about the person how he/she/they want to be recognized.

You are new I think about this, but come on, we all should forgive that if you make mistakes where you are unaware for, mistakes are be for be learned what you doing wrong and what to do better next time.

Well thanks for your understanding, it just the first time I met a non-binary it was sort of awkward. Umm I can't remember how xhe wanted to be addressed so i'll use the gender neutral. And I do mean gender neutral in the most literal sense, but my brain registered xer as a girl. So I had to be corrected multiple times, even after finding a gender neutral bathroom for xer. Sooo, all I say is let me know if you are, and i'll make adjustments because to me it might not obvious (I think implied that but just to be clear I said it anyways.). It wasn't like xhe was very aggressive about jt but you could tell as if she was tired of explaining to people in retrospect.

I think that also might be a selfdiscovery thing though. Unless they feel like they don't belong in the right body, or are born in a way that is non-binary they're going to go by the gender that relate to there born sex.

I'm more against gender roles to be honest, it makes no sense that what body you have mean you must act certain way. Give me a break right? XD

Also what's cis? Are the elitest?

[Hakio]

why don't the get surgery to "fix" it. I know its gotta be expensive thought.

Yeah, in many countries it is, and in almost all you have to wade through miles of red tape.

I wonder have they ever studied the chemicals in the brain of a Trans-gender person or Homosexual to see if there are any differences?

Yeah, they have.

That's a very interesting article. I love reading about these kinds of neurological studies because they help explain the vast complexity of the intertwined neural networks of brain tissue makes it very hard for them to strictly locate a singular part of the brain where specific psychological characteristics are located.

[Aequalitia]

I changed it sorry

It's okay, transgender social issues are not as socially understood and misunderstandings are bound to happen.

Sadly but yes, I know a few trans* people and its so a hard battle everyday, especially when you didn't done the transition or didn't can take the steps towards the final step.

A daily battle with yourself and other people around you, close ones and the rest of society. Looking everyday to the mirror and get tears because you looks not like how you feel inside your heart, going to school/work/college and hear gender terms what you not want to be referenced with, hear your name but you want to have an other name, looking to your passport and see that you are in the gender group of what you don't want be a part of.

[Slarvainian]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

A little bit actually. The treatments and surgery for transgender people are there to make them more comfortable in their own bodies and improve their current mental health.

But under those terms giving hearing aids to someone whose hearing impaired is also transhumanism.

[Jormengand]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Not necessarily. I mean, I just wanna be a human, so long as I get to be a human girl.

[Hakio]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Well, if the trans person believes that having the technological capability to fundamentally change their bodies to their preferred sex and other modifications would greatly enhance the average human's standard of living, then yes you can be a transgender transhumanist. Transgenderism itself is not a belief, it is an identification of one's own gender. So, no, not all transgender people are transhumanists.

[Source]

Honestly, I don't really care much anymore what people think. I'm not going to suffer internally because a few people refuse to be informed on the matter. I just really hope those younger ones don't suffer as much as I did, if there's any question at all about the child's gender there needs to be potential consideration for an anti-androgen until they are completely sure.
It essentially just blocks puberty while it's active with possible effects on fertility. This is far better than a dead child though, considering the suicide rates for transgender individuals, especially in their teens.
http://www.yspp.org/about_suicide/statistics.htm

[Hakio]

Look, but that is basically not wrong. You are unaware (yet) about that in this world you got 7 billion individuals, and that everyone is different.

Try to hold up in you mind of people who you not know that the person maybe can be trans* or non-binary. Try to use so less terms as 'him' and 'her' until you know sure about the person how he/she/they want to be recognized.

You are new I think about this, but come on, we all should forgive that if you make mistakes where you are unaware for, mistakes are be for be learned what you doing wrong and what to do better next time.

Well thanks for your understanding, it just the first time I met a non-binary it was sort of awkward. Umm I can't remember how xhe wanted to be addressed so i'll use the gender neutral. And I do mean gender neutral in the most literal sense, but my brain registered xer as a girl. So I had to be corrected multiple times, even after finding a gender neutral bathroom for xer. Sooo, all I say is let me know if you are, and i'll make adjustments because to me it might not obvious (I think implied that but just to be clear I said it anyways.). It wasn't like xhe was very aggressive about jt but you could tell as if she was tired of explaining to people in retrospect.

I think that also might be a selfdiscovery thing though. Unless they feel like they don't belong in the right body, or are born in a way that is non-binary they're going to go by the gender that relate to there born sex.

I'm more against gender roles to be honest, it makes no sense that what body you have mean you must act certain way. Give me a break right? XD

Also what's cis? Are the elitest?

A cisgender person, abbreviated to cis*, is a person whose gender identification matches their sex. For instance, I am a biological male and I identify (weakly) as my gender being male also. This makes me basically a cisgender person. When I say "weakly", what I mean is that gender identification is not as important to my lifestyle as I will willingly do things considered female or male and don't pay much concern to gender roles as I find them rather antiquated. In this way I also sometimes identify myself as agender because as a bisexual also, when it comes to gender, I really don't care.

[Revanchism]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

I mean, maybe if you're stretching the definition of transhumanism a little bit, but not really.

[Fanosolia]

Well thanks for your understanding, it just the first time I met a non-binary it was sort of awkward. Umm I can't remember how xhe wanted to be addressed so i'll use the gender neutral. And I do mean gender neutral in the most literal sense, but my brain registered xer as a girl. So I had to be corrected multiple times, even after finding a gender neutral bathroom for xer. Sooo, all I say is let me know if you are, and i'll make adjustments because to me it might not obvious (I think implied that but just to be clear I said it anyways.). It wasn't like xhe was very aggressive about jt but you could tell as if she was tired of explaining to people in retrospect.

I think that also might be a selfdiscovery thing though. Unless they feel like they don't belong in the right body, or are born in a way that is non-binary they're going to go by the gender that relate to there born sex.

I'm more against gender roles to be honest, it makes no sense that what body you have mean you must act certain way. Give me a break right? XD

Also what's cis? Are the elitest?

A cisgender person, abbreviated to cis*, is a person whose gender identification matches their sex. For instance, I am a biological male and I identify (weakly) as my gender being male also. This makes me basically a cisgender person. When I say "weakly", what I mean is that gender identification is not as important to my lifestyle as I will willingly do things considered female or male and don't pay much concern to gender roles as I find them rather antiquated. In this way I also sometimes identify myself as agender because as a bisexual also, when it comes to gender, I really don't care.

Oh so you're me in a nutshell XP thanks, I just wanted yo make sure about that tumblr thing

[Immoren]

[Hakio]

Honestly, I don't really care much anymore what people think. I'm not going to suffer internally because a few people refuse to be informed on the matter. I just really hope those younger ones don't suffer as much as I did, if there's any question at all about the child's gender there needs to be potential consideration for an anti-androgen until they are completely sure.
It essentially just blocks puberty while it's active with possible effects on fertility. This is far better than a dead child though, considering the suicide rates for transgender individuals, especially in their teens.
http://www.yspp.org/about_suicide/statistics.htm

I'm very sorry that you had to go through that. However, there is hope because times are changing in a more progressive way towards these issues. If there are any transgender persons who are feeling suicidal, I would recommend you to finding some help or a group to help you. Here are some links to support groups.

http://community.pflag.org/transgender
http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Transgen ... port-group
https://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights
http://www.gendercentre.org.au/resource ... ession.htm

[Hakio]

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Very funny chemistry joke.

[Immoren]

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Very funny chemistry joke.

"joke"? :I

[Hakio]

Very funny chemistry joke.

"joke"? :I

How is it not a joke? Are the trans and cis not representative of some chemical unrelated to this topic? Oops.

*failed 10th grade Chemistry*

[Source]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Not necessarily. I mean, I just wanna be a human, so long as I get to be a human girl.

This is not really related, but if there was a way for people to shapeshift whenever they wanted to, appearance of what girls and boy are supposed to look like would probably be irrelevant or fluid besides personal preferences.
Do you think you would have a static preferred appearance that stays mostly the same or does it change in anyway?

[Hakio]

Not necessarily. I mean, I just wanna be a human, so long as I get to be a human girl.

This is not really related, but if there was a way for people to shapeshift whenever they wanted to, appearance of what girls and boy are supposed to look like would probably be irrelevant or fluid besides personal preferences.
Do you think you would have a static preferred appearance that stays mostly the same or does it change in anyway?

I don't know what I would do if I had that power. I feel like I might be more fluid between the two however, probably at times when it suits me best.

[Immoren]

"joke"? :I

How is it not a joke? Are the trans and cis not representative of some chemical unrelated to this topic? Oops.

*failed 10th grade Chemistry*

It's not unrelated. It's simple illustration what "CIS" and "trans" mean.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

would Trans-gender people also fall under Trans-humanism ?

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

I don't think so.