Public Opinion on Transgender Persons

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

If only your loaded question wasn't a lie.

It isn't like I had TRANSFEMINISTS agress me for coming off as too strongly-opinionated in a place that they ruled wasn't welcome to questioning.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

If only your loaded question wasn't a lie.

"instead insisting to those assembled that he was female."

[Rocopurr]

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

If only your loaded question wasn't a lie.

This is about trans people as a whole but it's still relevant.

[Conkerials]

I'm sorry but I don't rationally get prejudice and transphobia because it's inherently dumb.

Being in your own world is unhealthy.

Says the most close minded person currently posting in this thread.

[Lies and Ignorance]

Most accepted since time began =/= was present since time began.

Billions of years of existence, 100,000 years of human life, ~200 of capitalist rule.

Regardless of how many people uncritically accept capitalism as right, your relatively new, highly unstable, extremely destructive pet philosophy is not the best there's been, the best there could be, or permanent in any way.

So you don't deny your ideology being purely out of angst is totally baseless?

Are you projecting your suburban ennui on me? I'm sorry, you're not gonna see me cry today. Go talk to a teddy bear.

I know. My disfaith in where my tax money goes deepens.

This sentence has no meaning. I'm not saying that because I disagree with it, because there's nothing to disagree with. This string of signifiers you've created is indecipherable and silly.

Woah-ho-ho, Marx, man, aren't you cool? You must be so cool. Anyone as edgy as that must be so cool. Well, you do know "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" have been abandoned since they were last used in philosophical discourse, circa the late 19th century, with the advent of the middle class?

I am pretty cool, actually! Hella rad. Thanks for noticing.

Are you done making up pseudohistory just to feign competence?

[The Sanguinian Islands]

Being in your own world is unhealthy.

Says the most close minded person currently posting in this thread.

Cool, i'm close minded.

[Evera]

Its okay to be transgender, but it is annoying how they class themselves as women or and men... if your born a man you will always be a man, same goes to women. But yes, transgender people are fine, there is nothing wrong with them. Not all of them are gay either, some people just want to look like a woman or man...

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Structural sexism? Wow. I mean, I know my vagina doesn't entitle me to automatically be a feminist, but I do feel what that poster feels, and I can tell the difference between what's a hyperbolic exaggeration and genuine, 1950s-esque sexism.

Your irony didn't seem very appropriate. You suddenly appeared questioning everybody with a tad of "what the hell you absurd tit", so I thought you doubted general complaints that people do it in their own place to feel offended at stuff. Regardless, it matters little.

You do know income and wealth mobility are a thing

How do you have the face to tell that to a Brazilian ffs

[Kelinfort]

I'm sorry but I don't rationally get prejudice and transphobia because it's inherently dumb.

Being in your own world is unhealthy.

No...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375647
http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F00918360903005212
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583

Read long and carefully.

[Arcturus Novus]

I can't handle this thread anymore. It's raising my blood pressure a bit too high. Afternoon, everyone. Educate those who need it.

[Kelinfort]

I can't handle this thread anymore. It's raising my blood pressure a bit too high. Afternoon, everyone. Educate those who need it.

I'll compile a mega source list when I get the chance.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Its okay to be transgender, but it is annoying how they class themselves as women or and men... if your born a man you will always be a man, same goes to women. But yes, transgender people are fine, there is nothing wrong with them. Not all of them are gay either, some people just want to look like a woman or man...

People aren't born man and woman. Every human body is unique. People create the patterns out of shallow analyses that don't take all factors into account.

[Liriena]

Its okay to be transgender, but it is annoying how they class themselves as women or and men... if your born a man you will always be a man, same goes to women.

In other words, you are "okay" with transgender people, but you don't actually recognize their gender identity.

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

And Australia.

And India. You know, the second most populous nation in the world.

Is that proof enough that non-binary genders exist for your standards?

For some people, evidence, facts & common sense just aren't enough to accept that people of all different genders/sexualities exist, and that it's a spectrum rather than just one or the other.

I accept that those people with those genders exist. After all, I pinch and they´re still there.
They pretend they´re someone they´re not ? Fine with me, who am I to stand in the way of their folly.
Imagine my cat says to me he´s a transdog. I look at it and know it obviously is not, smile, and let him have it his way. Meaning, just because people say they´re something, doesn´t mean they actually are. It´s like believing that the man in the nuthouse is Napoleon because he says so.

[Liriena]

If only your loaded question wasn't a lie.

"instead insisting to those assembled that he was female."

Notice, in the beginning of the article, what the [nb 1] says:

While some media commentators describe Jones as transgender,[1] his best friend described him using male pronouns,[2] and so other sources refer to him as a "cross-dresser"[3] or "gender non-conforming".[4]

[Kelinfort]

For some people, evidence, facts & common sense just aren't enough to accept that people of all different genders/sexualities exist, and that it's a spectrum rather than just one or the other.

I accept that those people with those genders exist. After all, I pinch and they´re still there.
They pretend they´re someone they´re not ? Fine with me, who am I to stand in the way of their folly.
Imagine my cat says to me he´s a transdog. I look at it and know it obviously is not, smile, and let him have it his way. Meaning, just because people say they´re something, doesn´t mean they actually are. It´s like believing that the man in the nuthouse is Napoleon because he says so.

Non existent, eh?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375647
http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F00918360903005212
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583

[The Sanguinian Islands]

I accept that those people with those genders exist. After all, I pinch and they´re still there.
They pretend they´re someone they´re not ? Fine with me, who am I to stand in the way of their folly.
Imagine my cat says to me he´s a transdog. I look at it and know it obviously is not, smile, and let him have it his way. Meaning, just because people say they´re something, doesn´t mean they actually are. It´s like believing that the man in the nuthouse is Napoleon because he says so.

Non existent, eh?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375647
http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F00918360903005212
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583

Nice politically correct articles m80

You know, cause you need to be nice.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I accept that those people with those genders exist. After all, I pinch and they´re still there.
They pretend they´re someone they´re not ? Fine with me, who am I to stand in the way of their folly.
Imagine my cat says to me he´s a transdog. I look at it and know it obviously is not, smile, and let him have it his way. Meaning, just because people say they´re something, doesn´t mean they actually are. It´s like believing that the man in the nuthouse is Napoleon because he says so.

We don't care about what arbitrary pattern you think our bodies are connected to in the general scheme of things. We are told that since we're toddlers, and we grew sick of that.

When you deal with people, you are dealing with the persons. Not their bodies. Their mind, their heart, the content of their identity. That's what you ought to respect within the same boundaries you ought to have for everybody else.

[Liriena]

For some people, evidence, facts & common sense just aren't enough to accept that people of all different genders/sexualities exist, and that it's a spectrum rather than just one or the other.

I accept that those people with those genders exist. After all, I pinch and they´re still there.
They pretend they´re someone they´re not ? Fine with me, who am I to stand in the way of their folly.
Imagine my cat says to me he´s a transdog. I look at it and know it obviously is not, smile, and let him have it his way. Meaning, just because people say they´re something, doesn´t mean they actually are. It´s like believing that the man in the nuthouse is Napoleon because he says so.

Gender identity, however, is not the same as species.

That analogy is as vacuous as it is pathetic.

Also, transgender people are not "pretending". If you don't want to accept the identity of transgender people, at least have the decency to be polite about it, and refer to their feelings in an accurate fashion.

[Conkerials]

Transgenders are the work of the devil.

[Nerotysia]

Non existent, eh?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375647
http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F00918360903005212
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583

Nice politically correct articles m80

You know, cause you need to be nice.

Poltically correct articles? Those are scientific studies, "m80." As in, exceptionally strong sources.

[Kelinfort]

Non existent, eh?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375647
http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F00918360903005212
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Identifier
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583

Nice politically correct articles m80

You know, cause you need to be nice.

Refuting science because it doesn't conform to your worldview, cute

[Arkolon]

Most accepted since time began =/= was present since time began.

Billions of years of existence, 100,000 years of human life, ~200 of capitalist rule.

Regardless of how many people uncritically accept capitalism as right, your relatively new, highly unstable, extremely destructive pet philosophy is not the best there's been, the best there could be, or permanent in any way.

Any society that has ever had private property is arguably a capitalist society. If cavemen lived in huts and they owned their huts, they owned land, and land is private property, or "natural capital". Aren't you supposed to be part of the "communism has never been tried" crowd? You know, that one line that always follows the mentioning of the hundreds of millions of lives lost in the attempt to create the "stable, peaceful, tender" society you fantasise about?

It's cool and all, but your family wasn't there. You don't know a thing about communism incarnate. You haven't heard the stories. You haven't seen how scarred people are when they come out of it.

The only reason you support communism, in fact, is because you have never yet conversed with a communism survivor.

So you don't deny your ideology being purely out of angst is totally baseless?

Are you projecting your suburban ennui on me? I'm sorry, you're not gonna see me cry today. Go talk to a teddy bear.

Want to cry oppression? Chances are you live in the Western world. You wouldn't know what oppression really is.

I know. My disfaith in where my tax money goes deepens.

This sentence has no meaning. I'm not saying that because I disagree with it, because there's nothing to disagree with. This string of signifiers you've created is indecipherable and silly.

The third of my income I lose goes to your supposed education. I'm a little upset that this is all that is churned out.

Woah-ho-ho, Marx, man, aren't you cool? You must be so cool. Anyone as edgy as that must be so cool. Well, you do know "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" have been abandoned since they were last used in philosophical discourse, circa the late 19th century, with the advent of the middle class?

I am pretty cool, actually! Hella rad. Thanks for noticing.

Are you done making up pseudohistory just to feign competence?

Have you considered looking past literary history after, you know, 1867?

[Conkerials]

Nice politically correct articles m80

You know, cause you need to be nice.

Poltically correct articles? Those are scientific studies, "m80." As in, exceptionally strong sources.

Not to mention .gov sites.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

Poltically correct articles? Those are scientific studies, "m80." As in, exceptionally strong sources.

Not to mention .gov sites.

wow the democrats themselves said so