Public Opinion on Transgender Persons

[Liriena]

So am I, although it also worries me that mean-spirited mockery is the only thing you do in this thread. Throughout your participation, the vast majority of your posts have been pathetic attempts at humorous strawmen of what non-binary people feel or say. While everybody else is, at the very least, trying to keep this serious, even people who share your views, you are insulting and making fun of a vulnerable minority, because for some reason your mind can't process the idea of a human being being anything other than a man or a woman.

If your reaction to something you don't understand is to try to verbally humilliate it, then it seems to me that you have a serious problem.

I'm too narrow minded and uneducated to read that.

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

[Arkolon]

I'm a feminist.

Almost certainly not.

For what reason is it impossible for me to be a feminist? What gives you that wild idea? Is it because I don't blindly accept baseless arguments?

[Lies and Ignorance]

Would you like to try saying that again? Perhaps with less of a presumptive tone? And less inherent wrongness?

Considering you are friends with Muslim Girl and Ranma 1 1/2 queergender I assume you are getting on a higher horse.

Go steal another pic.

You blighted your own credibility by dismissing the most widely-accepted economic system since time immemorial,

Were there capitalist dinosaurs?

which only displays whatever teenage angst you have in you because you force yourself to fight against the current system, whatever that system may be.

Argument from incredulity. When in doubt, just assume your opponent's social standing renders their opinion unimportant. No one RESPECTABLE could possibly disagree with you, eh?

Even worse, you blamed an economic system for social problems.

The horror.

I mean, what the fuck, man. Do you even know what capitalism is?

Let me ask you a question: do you think national bourgeois and imperial bourgeoisie are separate categories? I've heard people say that the national bourgeois are distinct because of their chauvinistic opposition to the imperial bourgeoisie. I want to know what you think.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I'm being sarcastic.

Your sarcasm triggers me.

Her sarcasm is also infectious.

Abort mission! Abort mission!

[Conkerials]

I'm too narrow minded and uneducated to read that.

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

Isn't putting up with discrimination, harassment and violence regularly what minorities usually do thanks to people like Sang?

[Liriena]

And Australia.

And India. You know, the second most populous nation in the world.

Is that proof enough that non-binary genders exist for your standards?

hijiras present as female

and Australia will be fixed soon.

You didn't answer my question, and on top of that you are speaking even more nonsense.

[Arcturus Novus]

You blighted your own credibility by dismissing the most widely-accepted economic system since time immemorial,

Were there capitalist dinosaurs?

Do the Koch Brothers count?

[Liriena]

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

Isn't putting up with discrimination, harassment and violence regularly what minorities usually do thanks to people like Sang?

Yup.

Isn't that nice? It's kinda like the circle of life, except it's horrendous and pathetic.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Almost certainly not.

For what reason is it impossible for me to be a feminist? What gives you that wild idea? Is it because I don't blindly accept baseless arguments?

You poke fun at people who actually sensibly question certain behavior as counter-productive because they personally feel it's consequence of structural sexism that they suffer as just edgy teenagers wanting to be rad.

That's usually really bad practice.

Won't assume your gender but I historically read you as a cis male, besides. Apologizes if that comes off as intrusive, trans-exclusionary or ally-exclusionary.

[Lies and Ignorance]

Were there capitalist dinosaurs?

Do the Koch Brothers count?

Lizard-men from outer space... hm. Yep.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

hijiras present as female

and Australia will be fixed soon.

Fixed? Are you being intentionally offensive again?

Pardon me~
Would you like me to use another word?

I'm too narrow minded and uneducated to read that.

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

I'm being sarcastic.

Not my fault if your debating skills are shaky.

Alright bro.

I'm being sarcastic.

Your sarcasm triggers me.

Checking my privlege ;-;

hijiras present as female

And why should that be celebrated?

i never said that

I'm too narrow minded and uneducated to read that.

At least you admit to having a problem.

*pat pat*

It's alright to have a problem.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I usually discuss philosophy on NSG, and can only take ideologies seriously if they are anchored in accepted political philosophy. If your reasoning for being a communist is because it's the total opposite of the current system and being an outcast makes you feel edgy, to me that's insulting. It's insulting because political philosophy is taken less seriously when that's the kind of stuff people defend their arguments with.

I know Lies and Ignorance personally and his communism is far deeper than mine, so...

[Arkolon]

You blighted your own credibility by dismissing the most widely-accepted economic system since time immemorial,

Were there capitalist dinosaurs?

Most accepted since time began =/= was present since time began.

which only displays whatever teenage angst you have in you because you force yourself to fight against the current system, whatever that system may be.

Argument from incredulity. When in doubt, just assume your opponent's social standing renders their opinion unimportant. No one RESPECTABLE could possibly disagree with you, eh?

So you don't deny your ideology being purely out of angst is totally baseless?

Even worse, you blamed an economic system for social problems.

The horror.

I know. My disfaith in where my tax money goes deepens.

I mean, what the fuck, man. Do you even know what capitalism is?

Let me ask you a question: do you think national bourgeois and imperial bourgeoisie are separate categories? I've heard people say that the national bourgeois are distinct because of their chauvinistic opposition to the imperial bourgeoisie. I want to know what you think.

Woah-ho-ho, Marx, man, aren't you cool? You must be so cool. Anyone as edgy as that must be so cool. Well, you do know "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" have been abandoned since they were last used in philosophical discourse, circa the late 19th century, with the advent of the middle class?

[Lies and Ignorance]

I usually discuss philosophy on NSG, and can only take ideologies seriously if they are anchored in accepted political philosophy. If your reasoning for being a communist is because it's the total opposite of the current system and being an outcast makes you feel edgy, to me that's insulting. It's insulting because political philosophy is taken less seriously when that's the kind of stuff people defend their arguments with.

I know Lies and Ignorance personally and his communism is far deeper than mine, so...

I mean fuck, anyone who thinks I don't put some critical effort into understanding my own positions obviously doesn't know me.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

And why should that be celebrated?

i never said that

So you're saying you're against ALL trans people, but that we're more palatable when we uphold extreme gender stereotypes?

[Neutraligon]

Fixed? Are you being intentionally offensive again?

Pardon me~
Would you like me to use another word?

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

Not my fault if your debating skills are shaky.

Alright bro.

Your sarcasm triggers me.

Checking my privlege ;-;

And why should that be celebrated?

i never said that

At least you admit to having a problem.

*pat pat*

It's alright to have a problem.

Well, it depends on if you learn to deal with said problem. You apparently delight in your problem considering you are boasting about your narrow mindedness and lack of education. We must apparently wait a bit longer for you to start fixing said problem.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

i never said that

So you're saying you're against ALL trans people, but that we're more palatable when we uphold extreme gender stereotypes?

No. Where did you get that?

You can do whatever you want to change your body to a natural state

[Rocopurr]

Fixed? Are you being intentionally offensive again?

Pardon me~
Would you like me to use another word?

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

Not my fault if your debating skills are shaky.

Alright bro.

Your sarcasm triggers me.

Checking my privlege ;-;

Thank you. Since you were kind enough to check your privilege I'm making you an honorary bunnykin.

i never said that

So you're saying you're against ALL trans people, but that we're more palatable when we uphold extreme gender stereotypes?

Nah, the Nestorian special snowflake is only against non-binary people.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Woah-ho-ho, Marx, man, aren't you cool? You must be so cool. Anyone as edgy as that must be so cool. Well, you do know "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" have been abandoned since they were last used in philosophical discourse, circa the late 19th century, with the advent of the middle class?

Since the more than one century of the advent of its appearance, the middle class didn't expand to most of the globe, and is currently diminishing as capital becomes even more concentrated in an amazingly unequal world.

[Liriena]

No. Just too arrogant and immature to acknowledge the fact that you have been acting like a 10-year-old bully, and you should feel deeply ashamed of yourself.

Find another minority to insult with your pathetic "humour", preferrably one that doesn't already have to put up with discrimination, harrassment and violence on a daily basis.

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

If only your loaded question wasn't a lie.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

Pardon me~
Would you like me to use another word?

I doubt people are like "lets go lynch us a queergender".

If you guys are so oppressed why isn't this happening?

Alright bro.

Checking my privlege ;-;

Thank you. Since you were kind enough to check your privilege I'm making you an honorary bunnykin.

So you're saying you're against ALL trans people, but that we're more palatable when we uphold extreme gender stereotypes?

Nah, the Nestorian special snowflake is only against non-binary people.

Awesome! I'm a honorary bunnykin!

[Arkolon]

For what reason is it impossible for me to be a feminist? What gives you that wild idea? Is it because I don't blindly accept baseless arguments?

You poke fun at people who actually sensibly question certain behavior as counter-productive because they personally feel it's consequence of structural sexism that they suffer as just edgy teenagers wanting to be rad.

Structural sexism? Wow. I mean, I know my vagina doesn't entitle me to automatically be a feminist, but I do feel what that poster feels, and I can tell the difference between what's a hyperbolic exaggeration and genuine, 1950s-esque sexism.

That's usually really bad practice.

Won't assume your gender but I historically read you as a cis male, besides. Apologizes if that comes off as intrusive, trans-exclusionary or ally-exclusionary.

Always, always been an ally. I went to the streets a few months ago. But this, this, this isn't real. It's not what actually happens.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

So you're saying you're against ALL trans people, but that we're more palatable when we uphold extreme gender stereotypes?

No. Where did you get that?

You can do whatever you want to change your body to a natural state

I'm sorry but I don't rationally get prejudice and transphobia because it's inherently dumb.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

No. Where did you get that?

You can do whatever you want to change your body to a natural state

I'm sorry but I don't rationally get prejudice and transphobia because it's inherently dumb.

Being in your own world is unhealthy.

[Arkolon]

Woah-ho-ho, Marx, man, aren't you cool? You must be so cool. Anyone as edgy as that must be so cool. Well, you do know "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" have been abandoned since they were last used in philosophical discourse, circa the late 19th century, with the advent of the middle class?

Since the more than one century of the advent of its appearance, the middle class didn't expand to most of the globe, and is currently diminishing as capital becomes even more concentrated in an amazingly unequal world.

You do know income and wealth mobility are a thing, and they have a strong correlation with income and wealth inequality in free nations?

Capitalism makes people richer. It is an undeniable fact.