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male
954
43%
female
110
5%
other gender identity
72
3%
heterosexual
644
29%
bisexual
187
8%
pansexual
70
3%
homosexual
131
6%
other sexual orientation
71
3%
 
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Jordsindia
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Postby Jordsindia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:49 pm

Senyosu wrote:
Jordsindia wrote:I don't care. I was concerned maybe he stumbled in that bad part of Tumblr and was attacked by those nuts.

No, not a single episode of Doctor Who has met with my eyes.

He shouldn't care too much either?

Tumblr in general, do not overgeneralize it. Furthermore, there are more level headed SJWs there, except it's honestly going to take effort to find them and speak to them one on one. On a more on topic note, the main thing one should walk out of learning from the gender expression and sexuality rights movement--just don't judge people beforehand via the conventional norm (gender binary and other misconceptions), that's really all there is to it. Mutual dialogue starts when personal judgments are extinguished.

So, Tumblr, in that part of it, mostly are lunatics? Ahh, I stand my case.

So, I cannot see a person on what one looks anymore, in case of offending that person? I cannot greet a person as sir, or ma'am, because he/she/it might be offended at my preconceived notion of what a person naturally would greet them as, based on simple analysis of the one being greeted? Is this what you are saying, or did I take it wrong?
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Postby Senyosu » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:50 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Senyosu wrote:why do care about sjw section of tumblr

you should be more concerned on 4chan having the capability of invading nsg

not tumblr invading nsg

just why

what have they done to you

they're only bitching about stuff

besides there are some sjws (me) who are so damn lenient

so stop overgeneralizing

I'd love to flood NSG with SJ Brazilians. :(

except nsg is so niche

pipe dream love
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:54 pm

Senyosu wrote:
Ironbarrow wrote:Where does he think he is, tumblr?

why do care about sjw section of tumblr

you should be more concerned on 4chan having the capability of invading nsg

not tumblr invading nsg

just why

what have they done to you

they're only bitching about stuff

besides there are some sjws (me) who are so damn lenient

so stop overgeneralizing


I'd much prefer 4chan invading NSG 110%.

10/10 would support.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:00 pm

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Postby Southern Arkansas » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:02 pm

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:06 pm

Why?

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Postby Senyosu » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:08 pm

Jordsindia wrote:
Senyosu wrote:He shouldn't care too much either?

Tumblr in general, do not overgeneralize it. Furthermore, there are more level headed SJWs there, except it's honestly going to take effort to find them and speak to them one on one. On a more on topic note, the main thing one should walk out of learning from the gender expression and sexuality rights movement--just don't judge people beforehand via the conventional norm (gender binary and other misconceptions), that's really all there is to it. Mutual dialogue starts when personal judgments are extinguished.

So, Tumblr, in that part of it, mostly are lunatics? Ahh, I stand my case.

So, I cannot see a person on what one looks anymore, in case of offending that person? I cannot greet a person as sir, or ma'am, because he/she/it might be offended at my preconceived notion of what a person naturally would greet them as, based on simple analysis of the one being greeted? Is this what you are saying, or did I take it wrong?

Mostly does not equate to all of us being loons. Nor does it equate to the whole website being bonkers. (stay away from fandom tumblr it gets nastier than sjw tumblr for the love of all things holy the reason to avoid tumblr is for the tendency to implode for every fandom war that occurs)

Eh, this is the nitty gritty bits that I myself rather not speak of. That's where it varies on the person. Some people are more likely to get offended, some brush it off, some don't care. Your mileage may vary greatly, since society is for the most part the norm. Do what you see the most practical to you. Hence why I said casual apathy is the best policy. It really begins with one somewhat accepting people for who they are, but even then, one can be casually apathetic if one comes out gay or trans.

Your mileage may vary. Think before you act, but choose what you find the most practical to the situation. If they get offended, don't call them out--or do (this were the vagueness level gets extremely high) in regards to the situation. Being overly PC is bad, but basic human politeness, is good. There is a difference between paranoia of offending someone, and being not judgmental.

Communication, polite communication, is a matter of thinking before acting--but more importantly it is about conversing without judgement, only with a mindset of genuine openness.

Also, disregard the noise of SJWs, if they are genuinely in the extreme, ignore them. If they injure your pride, walk it off. If they threaten you, turn the other cheek. You should not step to their level and start shouting as well. You, automatically when they start hurling the insult and cyber bullying canon, have the higher ethical ground and have the choice of dismissing them. Ignoring them--when they are screaming--in such a case, is not kowtowing to them, but simply dismissing them.

Again, YMMV (Your mileage may vary), when greeting someone--it's difficult to think on that too much. Go with the gut reflex. When conversing, disregard the personal judgments--or talk to them about it. YMMV on their reaction, and based on the reaction, YMMV (again) on your response.

Conversing with mindfulness, in regards to the notion of YMMV.

This is, just a suggestion and a very halfed assed explanation on my part. It's more on how to not be paranoid of offending someone, which, in all honesty, not going to be too too common.
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Postby Senyosu » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:09 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Senyosu wrote:why do care about sjw section of tumblr

you should be more concerned on 4chan having the capability of invading nsg

not tumblr invading nsg

just why

what have they done to you

they're only bitching about stuff

besides there are some sjws (me) who are so damn lenient

so stop overgeneralizing


I'd much prefer 4chan invading NSG 110%.

10/10 would support.

by 4chan i meant /b/ specifically
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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:27 pm

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:52 pm

Ironbarrow wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:No, he doesn't want to offend anyone. :p

Where does he think he is, tumblr?

Unlikely, our hardcore-ness is apparent from twenty kilometres away.

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:53 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Senyosu wrote:why do care about sjw section of tumblr

you should be more concerned on 4chan having the capability of invading nsg

not tumblr invading nsg

just why

what have they done to you

they're only bitching about stuff

besides there are some sjws (me) who are so damn lenient

so stop overgeneralizing


I'd much prefer 4chan invading NSG 110%.

10/10 would support.

I can imagine it.

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:54 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Senyosu wrote:why do care about sjw section of tumblr

you should be more concerned on 4chan having the capability of invading nsg

not tumblr invading nsg

just why

what have they done to you

they're only bitching about stuff

besides there are some sjws (me) who are so damn lenient

so stop overgeneralizing

I'd love to flood NSG with SJ Brazilians. :(

They are Lusophobes so no. :p

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Postby Free States of Dixon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:05 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
I'd much prefer 4chan invading NSG 110%.

10/10 would support.

I can imagine it.

That would be a refreshing change.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:27 am

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Postby Athorack » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:31 am

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Postby Knockturn Alley » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:42 am

Heterosexual male who punches the air in delight when he meets people with a gender identity/sexual orientation he hasn't heard of :-)
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Postby Potenco » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:23 am

Distruzio wrote:
Potenco wrote:Thats good!

My lifes funny, I started off as a gay male because it made sense of my effeminance for the time where I didnt know transgenderism was a thing, now im a bi/lesbian woman. Ive been everywhere


Just saying. Were we to meet, and i were to drink (which i almost always am), i might have to hit on you. Respectfully of course.

Also.... jazz clubs.


We'll my girlfriend is pretty butch n a sort of pretty tomboyish sense so I would advise you tread carefully with that lol

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Postby Condunum » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:15 am

Senyosu wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
I'd much prefer 4chan invading NSG 110%.

10/10 would support.

by 4chan i meant /b/ specifically

Bring it
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Postby Ereria » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:35 pm

For me people are either Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual or Asexual. Everything else is just a cry for being a special snowflake.
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Postby Immoren » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:39 pm

Ereria wrote:For me people are either Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual or Asexual. Everything else is just a cry for being a special snowflake.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:41 pm

Ereria wrote:For me people are either Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual or Asexual. Everything else is just a cry for being a special snowflake.

People complaining about special snowflakes are repetitive, boring and have no arguments.
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Postby Ereria » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:48 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Ereria wrote:For me people are either Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual or Asexual. Everything else is just a cry for being a special snowflake.

People complaining about special snowflakes are repetitive, boring and have no arguments.


Maybe it's true then?
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Ereria wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:People complaining about special snowflakes are repetitive, boring and have no arguments.

Maybe it's true then?

Maybe people identifying as pansexual, demisexual, non-binary of whatever sexuality or in the aromantic spectrum are all entirely legitimate?
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:18 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Free States of Dixon wrote:1. I hope your mom realizes one day that it's who you are, no matter who you are born as and that she'd love you regardless.

2. This is kinda late, but happy day of remembrance anyway. 3. Best wishes and don't let the demands of others hinder who you identify as and how you wish to present yourself to others.


1. I think she would eventually. Its just in the short term that worries me. I think I'd have less of a problem if I were in the binary. She'd at least understand that, methinks.

2. Kind of feels weird to say "happy" for a day that's most decidedly sad, isn't it? But there's not really any other way to say what you're wanting to say. English sucks sometimes.

3. Yeah. Its really only a problem for me because I live with my mom, and if shit hits the fan, I'm out on the street. I have a cousin who's cool with me being trans, and has offered to take me in, but she lives an entire state away. And not a tiny little state you can drive across in less than an hour. I live in TN, she lives in LA, and its 8 hours between our two houses.

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
:hug:

I'm going through something similar right now. My mom acts very similar to yours.


:hug:

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:I would think if I came out as a pansexual now, she would hate me. We have a horrible relationship at the moment, it'll only get hellish.
I'm out and bout about furries, and she hates them, so that would be reason B


Ouch.

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
I've also got a pretty horrible relationship with my mom right now, mainly because she doesn't respect my choice of a name, and she's trying to get me to choose a different one.


Why's she hate it, and what's she trying to force you to change it to, if I may ask?


She doesn't want to call me Jay because she calls my brother that sometimes, which I didn't even notice until I asked her to call me Jay. I told her she could call me Jared or Jordan, but she says that's "too weird." She keeps suggesting really feminine names, which is not what I'm looking for.
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Postby Southern Arkansas » Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:31 pm

Athorack wrote:Heterosexual Male, Supportive of LGBTQ rights.
:)


But not LGBTQIA+ huh? Check your privilege.
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