Human Rights Board 'Intern not shaking hands justly refused'

[United Marxist Nations]

What does that mean?

Quoted For Fucking Truth!

Thanks. Never seen that before.

[Allentyr]

What does that mean?

Quoted For Fucking Truth!

Yay my first quote, danke, Big Jim Pimp.
Can I call you that?

[Revanchism]

Option one: Force a person to do something with their body against their will.
Option two: Show people that physical touch does not make or break a person's goodness or value and allow them to make their own choices with their body.

Option three: look for a job that doesn't involve people
Option four: go to a country where shaking hands isn't an important cultural custom

Option five: Realize the suckish parts of your culture and work to change them.

[Big Jim Pimp]

Quoted For Fucking Truth!

Yay my first quote, danke, Big Jim Pimp.
Can I call you that?

Yes, you may.

[Digital Planets]

Who cares? Maybe she should have known she would shake hands before knowing about the job. It's a standard part of the hiring process. I'm for the board on this one.

[Ostroeuropa]

She's not forced to do anything. It's like bitching when the government bars you from driving because you have no arms.
She can find another job, one that doesn't violate her silly belief.

Is celibacy "silly"?

You're making me sell your product?
Why, that's akin to fucking RAAAAPE!!!!

See, I don't believe I should have to sell your product. That's exactly the same as a belief in celibacy being violated. You're raping me by doing this!
What do you mean a celibate prostitute would have to give the payment back?! THATS NOT TRUE! You're forcing her to have sex with you if you do that!
WAhhhhhhh!

How the fuck do you people manage to get taken seriously when you trivialize issues like rape by comparing them to handshakes, fucks sake. This staple of crying rape whenever something happens that makes you upset makes your kind of whiner-leftism absolutely ridiculous. It's difficult to find a type of spin-off from feminism that I despise more than this constant fucking victim mentality and trivialization of serious issues. I award you no points etc.

Also coining Ostro's law of oppression olympics.
As someones argument gets shown up for the shitshow it is, the likelihood of someone crying rape approaches one.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Option three: look for a job that doesn't involve people
Option four: go to a country where shaking hands isn't an important cultural custom

Option five: Realize the suckish parts of your culture and work to change them.

Bowing vs. shaking hands = suckish?

Somebody call Japan and Korea, tell them it's time to change their culture because the Almighty Western Cultural Hivemind does not approve of their customs.

[Digital Planets]

Option five: Realize the suckish parts of your culture and work to change them.

Bowing vs. shaking hands = suckish?

Somebody call Japan and Korea, tell them it's time to change their culture because the Almighty Western Cultural Hivemind does not approve of their customs.

[Imperializt Russia]

Is celibacy "silly"?

You're making me sell your product?
Why, that's akin to fucking RAAAAPE!!!!

To reiterate an earlier statement, put the fucking drugs down.

Come back when you're calm and rational.
Probably never.

[Geilinor]

Absolutely ridiculous. You should not be allowed to force a woman to touch men.

But you can force a woman to touch a woman or a man to touch a man?

[Ostroeuropa]

You're making me sell your product?
Why, that's akin to fucking RAAAAPE!!!!

To reiterate an earlier statement, put the fucking drugs down.

Come back when you're calm and rational.
Probably never.

That was pretty much your argument. You tried to imply that forcing someone to breach celibacy is the same as forcing someone to do their goddamn job for the money they were given, or to give the money back.
You cried rape.
That's what you did. You tried to imply our position is tantamount to rape, because you have no other argument.

[Geilinor]

Option five: Realize the suckish parts of your culture and work to change them.

Somebody call Japan and Korea, tell them it's time to change their culture because the Almighty Western Cultural Hivemind does not approve of their customs.

Most of them aren't going to move to the Netherlands and refuse to shake hands when in the professional world.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Option five: Realize the suckish parts of your culture and work to change them.

Bowing vs. shaking hands = suckish?

Somebody call Japan and Korea, tell them it's time to change their culture because the Almighty Western Cultural Hivemind does not approve of their customs.

I don't think Japan or Korea bow because of a cultural belief that women touching men is degrading, demeaning or against God's holy and oh-so-just will since women are temptresses who will spoil man's rightness and/or men are vile creatures incapable of containing their lust for tit-flesh and vagina because of the act of touching a woman unrelated to them.

[Geilinor]

Of course it does. In western society It shows a pupil how behave later on in life. We were instructed to shake hands at the end of a sports match at school for example. I am sure there were plenty of things you were instructed to do growing up to do with your background that people not from that background might think has no purpose yet you hold it dearly. A topical example might be your not wanting to shake the hands of men, what purpose can that possibly serve? However if I was to apply to a job in a school in a Muslim country or a Muslim school I would not shake female teachers or pupils hands as that's not the done thing for aforementioned reasons. If I did not agree to observe that rule I would not expect to be hired or to keep the job. Or if the situation was reversed would you agree that if I went round trying to shake hands with Muslim women at school whether they were ok with it or not I should stay in my job and not have any disciplinary actions against me?

You would be forcing someone to preform an action, which is a violation of her space and her rights.

That's what work is. You might have to do things you don't want to, in which case you quit.

[Ostroeuropa]

Bowing vs. shaking hands = suckish?

Somebody call Japan and Korea, tell them it's time to change their culture because the Almighty Western Cultural Hivemind does not approve of their customs.

I don't think Japan or Korea bow because of a cultural belief that women touching men is degrading, demeaning or against God's holy and oh-so-just will since women are temptresses who will spoil man's rightness and/or men are vile creatures incapable of containing their lust for tit-flesh and vagina because of the act of touching a woman unrelated to them.

They do it to expose a weak spot to the person, giving them a loose permission to cut off their head if they want to. (Though this permission is probably no longer actually given )
I wouldn't be suprised if it started as a strictly lessers-to-superiors thing, but eventually graduated to mutual respect.

[Imperializt Russia]

To reiterate an earlier statement, put the fucking drugs down.

Come back when you're calm and rational.
Probably never.

That was pretty much your argument. You tried to imply that forcing someone to breach celibacy is the same as forcing someone to do their goddamn job for the money they were given, or to give the money back.
You cried rape.
That's what you did. You tried to imply our position is tantamount to rape, because you have no other argument.

You have no argument but "Islam is stupid" and thus attempt to offend me out of the thread by screaming the word "rape".

Not sure how that was supposed to work.

[Geilinor]

That was pretty much your argument. You tried to imply that forcing someone to breach celibacy is the same as forcing someone to do their goddamn job for the money they were given, or to give the money back.
You cried rape.
That's what you did. You tried to imply our position is tantamount to rape, because you have no other argument.

You have no argument but "Islam is stupid" and thus attempt to offend me out of the thread by screaming the word "rape".

Not sure how that was supposed to work.

You're the one who brought up celibacy and treated it as tantamount to a handshake.

[Imperializt Russia]

You have no argument but "Islam is stupid" and thus attempt to offend me out of the thread by screaming the word "rape".

Not sure how that was supposed to work.

You're the one who brought up celibacy and treated it as tantamount to a handshake.

Might want to try re-reading that post.

There's an inference or six you seem to be missing.

[Ostroeuropa]

That was pretty much your argument. You tried to imply that forcing someone to breach celibacy is the same as forcing someone to do their goddamn job for the money they were given, or to give the money back.
You cried rape.
That's what you did. You tried to imply our position is tantamount to rape, because you have no other argument.

You have no argument but "Islam is stupid" and thus attempt to offend me out of the thread by screaming the word "rape".

Not sure how that was supposed to work.

Uh, my argument is more that people shouldn't be rude in their professional capacities.
No, I was parodying you and making it clear to everyone why that line of argument you made was ridiculous. I don't want you out of the thread, you're doing a better job arguing for my position than I am.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

I don't think Japan or Korea bow because of a cultural belief that women touching men is degrading, demeaning or against God's holy and oh-so-just will since women are temptresses who will spoil man's rightness and/or men are vile creatures incapable of containing their lust for tit-flesh and vagina because of the act of touching a woman unrelated to them.

They do it to expose a weak spot to the person, giving them a loose permission to cut off their head if they want to. (Though this permission is probably no longer actually given )
I wouldn't be suprised if it started as a strictly lessers-to-superiors thing, but eventually graduated to mutual respect.

It depends on the type of bowing. Kowtowing is definitely lessers-to-superiors, but a standing bow is generally a mutual thing. It doesn't really expose any weak points when you bow standing up (unless you do so very deeply, of course,) and in kendo you're expressly told to maintain eye contact while bowing.

That was always a problem for a lot of the east Asian kids I met at university who joined the kendo club. They would stare at the floor when they bowed. Not a good idea when confronted by an angry man with a sword, even if it's bamboo. It's not really a good position to cut somebody's head off from, but you could do some pretty serious damage.

[The Alma Mater]

Absolutely ridiculous. You should not be allowed to force a woman to touch men.

Would it be reasonable for a hospital to refuse to hire female surgeons who are unwilling to operate males ?

[Big Jim P]

They do it to expose a weak spot to the person, giving them a loose permission to cut off their head if they want to. (Though this permission is probably no longer actually given )
I wouldn't be suprised if it started as a strictly lessers-to-superiors thing, but eventually graduated to mutual respect.

It depends on the type of bowing. Kowtowing is definitely lessers-to-superiors, but a standing bow is generally a mutual thing. It doesn't really expose any weak points when you bow standing up (unless you do so very deeply, of course,) and in kendo you're expressly told to maintain eye contact while bowing.

That was always a problem for a lot of the east Asian kids I met at university who joined the kendo club. They would stare at the floor when they bowed. Not a good idea when confronted by an angry man with a sword, even if it's bamboo. It's not really a good position to cut somebody's head off from, but you could do some pretty serious damage.

I actually prefer to execute a small bow instead of a handshake. One of the many thing I picked up over the years, having had the god fortune to be exposed to many different culture growing up. I will not refuse a handshake however.

[Imperializt Russia]

Absolutely ridiculous. You should not be allowed to force a woman to touch men.

Would it be reasonable for a hospital to refuse to hire female surgeons who are unwilling to operate males ?

Several Islamic "restrictions" can be forgiven in certain circumstances. It is taught that it is better to eat pork than to starve, for example.

An observant Muslim would probably have no issue with operating upon a person of the opposite sex for a variety of reasons.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

ON Topic: read the OP sheeple. This specific case won because it was a Montessori school, where showing respect is a vital component of the whole system.

This is the same PC as that Islamist who got a job as a cook and demanded the right to not cook bacon, sausages, meat etc and the right to refuse to serve alcohol and the right to forbid anyone to eat during ramadan.

OFF Topic: wouldn't it be nice if the Priest were correct?
Priest is scared that if she shakes hands with Whites, then she will catch Whiteness.
Suppose shaking hands with a White really does turn you White?
Racism could be abolished in months.

[Imperializt Russia]

ON Topic: read the OP sheeple. This specific case won because it was a Montessori school, where showing respect is a vital component of the whole system.

This is the same PC as that Islamist who got a job as a cook and demanded the right to not cook bacon, sausages, meat etc and the right to refuse to serve alcohol and the right to forbid anyone to eat during ramadan.

OFF Topic: wouldn't it be nice if the Priest were correct?
Priest is scared that if she shakes hands with Whites, then she will catch Whiteness.
Suppose shaking hands with a White really does turn you White?
Racism could be abolished in months.

Wooooooooooooooooow.