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Postby Marcurix » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:23 pm

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That's blatantly false, given the pressure from NATO has been relatively light from what it could be. Western leaders, as you're so keen to distance, are well aware of the dilemma that Turkey faces and do in fact take it into account. It's when Turkey drags it's feet needlessly that the irritation comes in.

But, of course you would not it isn't actually the PKK-whom Turkey had a truce with until it launched attacks against the group recently-that's fighting ISIS but another Kurdish organisation with links to the PKK.


Well, they're terrorists too in our eyes as they have a more or less connection to the PKK. Like how al-Nusra is an extension of al-Qaeda and therefore considered terrorist too.


But they are not an extension, which should be noted.

Not that it matters much now away, Turkey may well have squandered its opportunity to remove appeal from the PKK for Kurds on both sides of the border with its recent actions.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:09 am

Well, Turkey has sent the Kurds an clear message that they can't and shouldn't rely on Turkey as a role-model and protector. This will inevitably strengthen the PKK's appeal in the Kurdish population again.
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Postby Seraven » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:43 am



Well, dead man indeed.

I do wonder if USA is able to locate Kurd's camps or not. Then again, the battlefield's locations can change sides as fast as the time needed to change your clothes.
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Postby West Aurelia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:48 am

Pentagon determining whether Islamic State has weapons from US airdrop - Stars and Stripes.

“We’re still taking a look at [the video] and assessing the validity of it. So I honestly don’t know if that was one of the [bundles] dropped, and whether … the contents of it are, in fact, in the hands of ISIL,” Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters, using an acronym to refer to the Islamic State.

“They are certainly … the kinds of material that was dropped … so it’s not out of the realm of the possible in that regard,” he said.
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Postby Seraven » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:52 am

West Aurelia wrote:Pentagon determining whether Islamic State has weapons from US airdrop - Stars and Stripes.

“We’re still taking a look at [the video] and assessing the validity of it. So I honestly don’t know if that was one of the [bundles] dropped, and whether … the contents of it are, in fact, in the hands of ISIL,” Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters, using an acronym to refer to the Islamic State.

“They are certainly … the kinds of material that was dropped … so it’s not out of the realm of the possible in that regard,” he said.


Small arms, ammunition, and medical supplies.

It sure does have importance in here, especially as both sides have little supplies in both of them due to their...extensive use.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:52 am

While this was rather unfortunate, it thankfully was only one package out of 24 or so.

(It would be hilarious if ISIS fighters opened it and some sort of Resident Evil Tyrant popped out)
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Postby Seraven » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:59 am

Baltenstein wrote:While this was rather unfortunate, it thankfully was only one package out of 24 or so.

(It would be hilarious if ISIS fighters opened it and some sort of Resident Evil Tyrant popped out)


(Sadly there is no such thing as real-life Tyrant. USA just need to drop one of their drop from Area 51...)
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:52 am

According to frontline changes aka ISIL on march despite any bombing campaign, plus Turkish non-aggression pact with ISIL, Kobane is doomed and any air support can only delay the inevitable.
ISIL has obviously more than enough manpower to spare, so 'caliph' can use even WW1 tactics, if necessary (to sacrifice inexperienced noobs, like islamic teenagers from Germany and France, while protect elite troops in the same time).
World should rather help western or eastern kurdish territories in Syria, where they have still a chance.
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Postby Seraven » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:16 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:According to frontline changes aka ISIL on march despite any bombing campaign, plus Turkish non-aggression pact with ISIL, Kobane is doomed and any air support can only delay the inevitable.
ISIL has obviously more than enough manpower to spare, so 'caliph' can use even WW1 tactics, if necessary (to sacrifice inexperienced noobs, like islamic teenagers from Germany and France, while protect elite troops in the same time).
World should rather help western or eastern kurdish territories in Syria, where they have still a chance.


Or rather, nuke.
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An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby Al Nahar » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:59 am

"Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment"

Every male over 15 massacred. Where is the so called International community..This only adds to my anger, I wish these Daesh criminals could be rounded up and killed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syr ... story.html

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 164_1.html
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Postby Al Global Liberation Army » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:08 am

Al Nahar wrote:"Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment"

Every male over 15 massacred. Where is the so called International community..This only adds to my anger, I wish these Daesh criminals could be rounded up and killed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syr ... story.html

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 164_1.html



Why would the Americans care about our people, plus we should not need them to care about us all they do is create civil wars due to their ridiculous 'liberation' wars, now look at Libya, we have Jihadiyeen and soon Daesh everywhere.. they only care about the Kurds
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Postby Germanic Templars » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:56 am

In other news, ISIS might have reached the apex of it's atrength as an organized group. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... power.html

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:54 am

Al Global Liberation Army wrote:
Al Nahar wrote:"Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment"

Every male over 15 massacred. Where is the so called International community..This only adds to my anger, I wish these Daesh criminals could be rounded up and killed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syr ... story.html

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 164_1.html



Why would the Americans care about our people, plus we should not need them to care about us all they do is create civil wars due to their ridiculous 'liberation' wars, now look at Libya, we have Jihadiyeen and soon Daesh everywhere.. they only care about the Kurds

*Ignores how the US wanted to fund moderate Syrian rebels and gave support to the Kurdish and Iraqi offensives against ISIS*

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Postby Vamtrl » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:04 pm

Al Global Liberation Army wrote:
Al Nahar wrote:"Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment"

Every male over 15 massacred. Where is the so called International community..This only adds to my anger, I wish these Daesh criminals could be rounded up and killed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syr ... story.html

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 164_1.html



Why would the Americans care about our people, plus we should not need them to care about us all they do is create civil wars due to their ridiculous 'liberation' wars, now look at Libya, we have Jihadiyeen and soon Daesh everywhere.. they only care about the Kurds


Now you want US attention.
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Postby Al Global Liberation Army » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:31 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Al Global Liberation Army wrote:

Why would the Americans care about our people, plus we should not need them to care about us all they do is create civil wars due to their ridiculous 'liberation' wars, now look at Libya, we have Jihadiyeen and soon Daesh everywhere.. they only care about the Kurds


*Ignores how the US wanted to fund moderate Syrian rebels and gave support to the Kurdish and Iraqi offensives against ISIS*


If they really wanted to, they could have done it in the begining when there were people demonstrating and later on shooting at the Iranian puppets which is the Syrian regime, the U.S. does not give a rats ass about people in the Middle East that want a country where religion is separated from government, they only want to protect their oil little oil money monarchies who shit themselves everytime they see an Arab power with military might.
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Postby Al Global Liberation Army » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:32 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Al Global Liberation Army wrote:

Why would the Americans care about our people, plus we should not need them to care about us all they do is create civil wars due to their ridiculous 'liberation' wars, now look at Libya, we have Jihadiyeen and soon Daesh everywhere.. they only care about the Kurds


Now you want US attention.
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Who ever said i wanted US attention, I said, the US ignores everyone but the Kurds and fucks everything up, maybe its in its bests interests to carve up the region.
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Postby Herargon » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:13 pm

ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ
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Postby The balkens » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:17 pm

Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be mentally handicapped.

Link to their IQ


Does not surprise me.

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Postby Gezi Park » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:53 pm

Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ


ISIS is basically different from any other Salafist or Jihadist terror group in a way they're not following a specific cause. It's a magnet that draws losers all around the world, including drug, alcohol addicts and such, anybody with severe psychological problems. Many those within the group do not even have a Muslim or religious background.

A while ago Newsweek revealed three people from Turkey who have joined it, one a heavy drinker dad who neglected his family, one a woman of Kyrgyz origin with a child who was not even a Muslim but then converted, and a drug addict mechanic. It gives a good hint about what kind of people this organization is mostly composed of. There's also these two Austrian teenage girls and a Japanese guy who went in there.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ


Link doesn't work for me.
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Postby Herargon » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:06 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ


Link doesn't work for me.


You're really smart, eh? The link works. It shows a blank page. :lol:

(Not to offend, but now you know)
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Postby Benuty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:06 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ


Link doesn't work for me.

That is because ISIS has no IQ they are literally that mentally retarded.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:52 pm

Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ

I'm laughing at this specifically because the 69 would be haram.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:56 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Herargon wrote:ok, I'm just going to post this one there ;)

Latest research shows that 69% of the ISIS people may be slightly mentally handicapped

Link to their IQ

I'm laughing at this specifically because the 69 would be haram.

Well if they can have anal jihad then I do not see why this would be haram to them :P.
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