The Mod-Sanctioned Scottish Referendum Megathread

[Alyakia]

the worst case scenario isn't a yes vote

it's a no vote followed by MPs shitting themselves and trying to back out of more powers and everyone who wanted devo max or voted no under the impression they'd get more power jumping ship

[Lalaki]

Pretty close election.
Being from the States, I've never seen one of those.

2000.

[Baltenstein]

So?

Are you implying that there is absolutely no Celticness left in England? The Saxons, true, did smash the shit out of the Celts, but they didn't set up some nazi-esque-death-camp-cleansing system to destroy all living celts who hadn't fled to Cornwall, Wales or Scotland.

That's a bit of an implied argument.

He's referring to the (unfounded) Celtic genocide hypothesis, which stated that the Anglo-Saxon Migration had more or less wiped out and replaced the original Celtic Population of South England, with the only survivors retreating to Wales, Cornwall and Britanny. This worldview was quite popular in 19th century England as proof of the natural superiority of the English over the Irish.

[United Kingdom of Kent]

I'm concerned whether the yes supporters would accept a No outcome.

[Organized States]

I'm concerned whether the yes supporters would accept a No outcome.

And go all Troubles?

I kind of doubt it, but the radicals will be screaming unfortunately.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I'm not in a position to tell how Scotland should vote because of the bitter and close margin in the polls. I sometimes feel that only a few hundred votes could decide this whole thing.

[Alyakia]

I'm concerned whether the yes supporters would accept a No outcome.

do you have any real reason to think this whatsoever or is it just ooooh scary?

[Napkiraly]

I'm concerned whether the yes supporters would accept a No outcome.

Well there's not much they could do. Plus, while there may be a few isolated incidences of fuckery, overall I'm sure nothing will happen. Either way, the pubs will be happy regardless of the result.

[United Kingdom of Kent]

I'm concerned whether the yes supporters would accept a No outcome.

do you have any real reason to think this whatsoever or is it just ooooh scary?

It's more based upon the growing anti-English and Union sentiment that has been demonstrated by the more extreme yes supporters and the cases of physical confrontation the extreme yes supporters have demonstrated during the course of the campaign.

[Machtergreifung]

do you have any real reason to think this whatsoever or is it just ooooh scary?

It's more based upon the growing anti-English and Union sentiment that has been demonstrated by the more extreme yes supporters and the cases of physical confrontation the extreme yes supporters have demonstrated during the course of the campaign.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... aggression

[Czechanada]

I suppose I should levy my own thoughts on the matter.

As an academic, especially since I am studying social and political theory, I should have an unbiased, informed, and rational opinion on Scottish independence.

Alas, one of my most favourite musical artists, by the name of Calvin Harris, is Scottish, so I feel compelled to defer to his opinion on the matter.

[Eaglleia]

Well, this is going to be closer than I'd hoped, though fortunately a No outcome does look probable.

do you have any real reason to think this whatsoever or is it just ooooh scary?

It's more based upon the growing anti-English and Union sentiment that has been demonstrated by the more extreme yes supporters and the cases of physical confrontation the extreme yes supporters have demonstrated during the course of the campaign.

It's hardly going to burst into rebellion or anything, though. That said there probably will be a few....incidents....by the more extremist folk. Though that goes both ways just look at extreme Unionists in Ireland. Just as bad as extreme nationalists.

[Alyakia]

do you have any real reason to think this whatsoever or is it just ooooh scary?

It's more based upon the growing anti-English and Union sentiment that has been demonstrated by the more extreme yes supporters and the cases of physical confrontation the extreme yes supporters have demonstrated during the course of the campaign.

so your fears are based on "a few guys" while also ignoring the no side have a lot of people who are, how shall we say, very very very pro-union?

[Ainin]

Its own air force, which would presumably be called the Royal Scottish Air Force since it would still be a Commonwealth realm.

I still doubt Scotland's going to be willing to shell out the money to buy fighter aircraft.

There's a lot of variables that would be involved in that decision though. The most important one being the state of the economy if Scotland secedes. Personally, I agree with Credit Suisse that it's all going to go to shit.

[Rutannia]

Any thoughts on the stories of people going to polling stations intending to vote No, but suddenly deciding to vote Yes? It may be happening in reverse as well, but not too sure.

[Calisu]

So if Scotland leaves the UK could a common wealth country replace them? If so let Canada join the UK.

[Not-Hekk]

I thought she was a Celt, and not Anglo-Saxon.

The English are descended from Celts. Well as much as they are from the Anglo-Saxons any way.

England means 'land of the angles' man. English is Anglo-Saxon. Boudicca's tribe lived in the roman province of Britain, which means they were British or Celtic or Gaellic or whatever but not English, its just that the part of Britain she lived in is now what we call England. England and the English didn't come to Britain for about 300 years after Boudicca was dead.
If anything the modern English are more related to the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes and the Normans more than they are to the Celts and the original British Peoples.

[Ainin]

So if Scotland leaves the UK could a common wealth country replace them? If so let Canada join the UK.

Not following the logic here.

[Eaglleia]

I still doubt Scotland's going to be willing to shell out the money to buy fighter aircraft.

There's a lot of variables that would be involved in that decision though. The most important one being the state of the economy if Scotland secedes. Personally, I agree with Credit Suisse that it's all going to go to shit.

I am slightly dubious of an independent Scotlands desire and ability to remain a military power out of the UK. They hardly need to be, and a strong military doesn't exactly come cheap.

[Pola]

If I was Scottish, I would vote NO.
Cause England and Scotland have been together since the 1700s

It's like the stupid Flemish separatists here in Flanders...
I'm a Belgian... not Flemish.. And I'm from the Antwerp Province so, yeah... Long live United Belgium and the UK (Britland)

[Alyakia]

If I was Scottish, I would vote NO.
Cause England and Scotland have been together since the 1700s

It's like the stupid Flemish separatists here in Flanders...
I'm a Belgian... not Flemish.. And I'm from the Antwerp Province so, yeah... Long live United Belgium and the UK (Britland)
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the holy roman empire lasted 844 years, but nobody gave a shit.

[Napkiraly]

The English are descended from Celts. Well as much as they are from the Anglo-Saxons any way.

England means 'land of the angles' man. English is Anglo-Saxon. Boudicca's tribe lived in the roman province of Britain, which means they were British or Celtic or Gaellic or whatever but not English, its just that the part of Britain she lived in is now what we call England. England and the English didn't come to Britain for about 300 years after Boudicca was dead.
If anything the modern English are more related to the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes and the Normans more than they are to the Celts and the original British Peoples.

No, they aren't. They are more related to the Celts.

[Eaglleia]

So if Scotland leaves the UK could a common wealth country replace them? If so let Canada join the UK.

Wut

Any thoughts on the stories of people going to polling stations intending to vote No, but suddenly deciding to vote Yes? It may be happening in reverse as well, but not too sure.

Haven't heard of this, but could be the emotional spur of the moment?

The English are descended from Celts. Well as much as they are from the Anglo-Saxons any way.

England means 'land of the angles' man. English is Anglo-Saxon. Boudicca's tribe lived in the roman province of Britain, which means they were British or Celtic or Gaellic or whatever but not English, its just that the part of Britain she lived in is now what we call England. England and the English didn't come around for about 300 years after Boudicca was dead.
If anything the modern English are more related to the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes and the Normans more than they are to the Celts and the original British Peoples.

Look it up, English are descended from the Celts as much as they are from the Anglo-Saxons. Certainly more than from the Danes and Normans.
And if you want to get technical, the Celts are no more the original British people than the English, coming from central Europe around Germany/Austria originally and all.

[Ifreann]

A friend of mine has got a job working for the Scottish government if they get independence, so I'm kinda hoping for a yes. Go Scots, vote to get my mate off the dole!

[Alyakia]

>tfw you realize obamas initials are BO