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Viritica wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

Viritica wrote:

Caninope wrote:And people have a duty to show basic kindness and respect to other people. Far too often we frame political correctness (and too many other things) in terms of rights, but what of duties?

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Krasivovia wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

There is a difference between complaining and getting offended.

Juristonia wrote:

Viritica wrote:No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

And certain people feel that way about certain language used.
Funny coincidence.

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Viritica wrote:In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Viritica wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

Greater-London wrote:

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
1. See, if I had to summarize either of those two definitions in five words or less, I'd always end up with something similar to "don't be a dick". Those dictionary excerpts are just long winded, sophisticated ways of saying you should be nice to people and respect their feelings.That's all political correctness is, that's all it will ever be about and pretending it's about anything else is just plain dishonest.


2. It's also politically correct to use the word black. Unless a black person says "look, I don't like that word, can you call me this instead?" and then if you decide to be nice and call them something different, you're also being politically correct. Although most people would call that being reasonable.

1. Yes but the technical definition of something doesn't always have to be five words or fewer. I'd never dispute that the intent of political correctness was to both be nice to people and respect their feelings but its wrong to pretend its just that. Political Correctness is a means to create a "nicer" society but it does it through restriction and censorship there becomes an "official" PC language.

2. It is just being reasonable so why have a term politically correct unless of course it means something more than simply "being reasonable".

Viritica wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

Krasivovia wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:Then stop bitching when people express their disapproval of what you say.

There is a difference between complaining and getting offended.

Viritica wrote:

Caninope wrote:And people have a duty to show basic kindness and respect to other people. Far too often we frame political correctness (and too many other things) in terms of rights, but what of duties?

In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Viritica wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Perhaps you need to grow a thicker skin if you cannot handle be criticized for your own lack of sensitivity or awareness.

Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

Sdaeriji wrote:

Viritica wrote:No, because it's gotten to the point where it's fucking ridiculous.

So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Caninope wrote:

Viritica wrote:In this day in age people are offended by their own shadow. I'm not going to inconvenience myself because a few people don't like what I say.

Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Viritica wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Viritica wrote:Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

I'm not one of those people who think "illegal immigrant" is offensive. However, "illegals" has become a racially charged attack at Latinos during all this 1 year-long debate spanning multiple networks (NS is not the only network that actually is debating immigration on the net).

It's why in debates I tend to correct people to use "illegal immigrant" if they must use a term that is not "undocumented immigrant".

Viritica wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
So you want the freedom to say whatever you like, but you don't want me to have that exact same right.

Fascist.

Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Viritica wrote:Well, when it's gotten to the point where you need to say "undocumented worker" instead of "illegal immigrant" for fear of offending people I thinks it's gone to far.

But that's none of my business.

I'm not one of those people who think "illegal immigrant" is offensive. However, "illegal(s)" has become a racially charged attack at Latinos during all this 1 year-long debate spanning multiple networks (NS is not the only network that actually is debating immigration on the net).

It's why in debates I tend to correct people to use "illegal immigrant" if they must use a term that is not "undocumented immigrant".

Viritica wrote:

Caninope wrote:Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

Viritica wrote:

Caninope wrote:Would you address your mother as "Bitch"? If not, why? If not, if you can show respect and slightly inconvenience yourself for you mother, why can't you do the same for most people?

Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

Merizoc wrote:

Viritica wrote:Nope. Never said that.

But nice strawman.

Then don't complain when someone calls you out on being an asshole.

Farnhamia wrote:

Viritica wrote:Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

So you do filter what you say, you just resent being reminded that you should.

Viritica wrote:

Merizoc wrote:Then don't complain when someone calls you out on being an asshole.

Well, I like to think I have the right to defend myself from criticism.

Caninope wrote:

Viritica wrote:Well, I don't call random people bitches anyway.

So...

Under your logic, why not? Why should you have to convenience yourself with not insulting everyone you meet?