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by SaintB » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:42 am
by Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:44 am
by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:14 am
Australian Republic wrote:Some political correctness is needed, but the lefties are finding new ways to take it too far
The Blaatschapen wrote:Just to note, liberals are not sheep. Sheep are liberals ;)
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:33 am
SaintB wrote:I still have never been thoroughly convinced that politically correct is even an actual thing aside from a buzzword thrown around by people as a way to disparage a group of usually innocious behaviors they don't approve of for whatever reason - those things that fall into PC are widly variant from one individual to the next.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:37 am
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:38 am
Patridam wrote:[background=][/background]The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:"The lefties." Gee, I didn't know I did that. It's lucky for you that all generalizations are all correct.
Not all lefties push it, but PC is most certainly not a right-wing phenomenom. I'm not sure what freedom fries were supposed to be, but that's not really political correctness.
by Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:39 am
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:41 am
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Patridam wrote:[background=][/background]
Not all lefties push it, but PC is most certainly not a right-wing phenomenom. I'm not sure what freedom fries were supposed to be, but that's not really political correctness.
The right wing is the only group of people I ever hear banging on about it.
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:47 am
Patridam wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:The right wing is the only group of people I ever hear banging on about it.
As in, taking issue with it? Seeing as the left (in general) wants, if anything, more and more PC; you're correct.
The opposition to nearly anything is going to be louder than the support. Unions are louder than employers. The peacenicks were louder than the warhawks during Vietnam. Etc, etc.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:52 am
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Patridam wrote:
As in, taking issue with it? Seeing as the left (in general) wants, if anything, more and more PC; you're correct.
The opposition to nearly anything is going to be louder than the support. Unions are louder than employers. The peacenicks were louder than the warhawks during Vietnam. Etc, etc.
There is no "support" for PC. Anyone with a brain calls it being polite and being reasonable. The only people who ever talk about the term PC are people who want to say racist/sexist/bigoted shit and then not be called out for it.
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:55 am
Patridam wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:There is no "support" for PC. Anyone with a brain calls it being polite and being reasonable. The only people who ever talk about the term PC are people who want to say racist/sexist/bigoted shit and then not be called out for it.
Ah, good to know you consider 'reliable' and 'hardworking' bigoted terms.
by Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:59 am
Patridam wrote:[background=][/background]The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:"The lefties." Gee, I didn't know I did that. It's lucky for you that all generalizations are all correct.
Not all lefties push it, but PC is most certainly not a right-wing phenomenom. I'm not sure what freedom fries were supposed to be, but that's not really political correctness.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:59 am
Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Do you really think the collective left liberal hivemind new world order socialism international conspiracy sat around and stroked our cocks at the thought of reliable and hardworking being considered "bigoted terms" by some random individuals who decided that they, themselves didn't like the terms?
If I ask you to stop calling me Australian, does that mean the uber nazi PC police has struck again?
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:01 am
Patridam wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:Do you really think the collective left liberal hivemind new world order socialism international conspiracy sat around and stroked our cocks at the thought of reliable and hardworking being considered "bigoted terms" by some random individuals who decided that they, themselves didn't like the terms?
If I ask you to stop calling me Australian, does that mean the uber nazi PC police has struck again?
I never said political correctness was a vast conspiracy. But that doesn't make it any less idiotic and unnecessary.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:04 am
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:08 am
Then why do you think it is the job of the government and businesses to protect the feelings of some oversensitive people?
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:13 am
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Patridam wrote:
So you're saying that it's not a big enough deal to matter.
Uh-huhThen why do you think it is the job of the government and businesses to protect the feelings of some oversensitive people?
Did the government actually do that in this case or was it some Jobcentre Plus branch managed by community individuals? Because I think I know the answer, and it's not the government.
by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:15 am
Patridam wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:Uh-huh
Did the government actually do that in this case or was it some Jobcentre Plus branch managed by community individuals? Because I think I know the answer, and it's not the government.
What about the UK city council that banned the use of 'brainstorm' because it insults epileptics?
Or the US school district that fired a Spanish teacher for using the word 'negro' when teaching the colors?
Government or not, no one should feel forced to do this.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:20 am
by Eric Lauder » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:55 am
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:58 am
Eric Lauder wrote:IMHO political correctness is one of the most insidious, pernicious and unfair form of censorship.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:42 am
Patridam wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:And nobody is.
That Spanish teacher was fired because of doing her job - that forces other treachers to be PC or suffer similar consequences. The employees of that UK city are forced to refrain from using brainstorm in documents, emails, and discussions. Those who want to advertise for jobs with that government organized employment agency are forced to refrain from using innocent terms like hardworking and reliable. Are they all nobodies?
What do you call political correctness, if not overt societal pressure to use a set of terminology deemed by some to be more polite? That societal pressure now comes with consequences if not adhered to.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:44 am
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:47 am
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Patridam » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:36 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Patridam wrote:Ah, but you admit that it can be that, if not always. Isn't the fact that it can be like that enough to at least reduce its (over)reach.
Well, if you are arguing about its overreach into idiotic things then yes, I agree with you. Sometimes it gets to be a bit too much and I feel is because certain people do not understand the concept behind it and just use it as a buzzword for anything they don't like.
If you are arguing for eliminating the concept of not being an asshole altogether from society that's where we don't agree.
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