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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am

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Viritica wrote:Guys, guys, I'm now offended by the term "citizen". From now I want to be referred to as a US documented worker.

Which we aren't going to do. Feel free to call us assholes for declining your request though.

But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Considering you used the definition to justify this here:



You don't seem to have a good grasp on what the definition means.
Political Correctness is avoiding offensive behavour etc. Right?

Correct
The act of impossing PC on people is what causes censorship. How is this hard to follow?

For one, you can't "impose" PC. You can recommend it but that's really as far as things get taken.
For two, political correctness does not involve stopping people from talking, so it's not censorship.

You're finding this hard to follow because you're confused about one of both of the terms "censorship" and "political correctness".
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Postby Sdaeriji » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:Which we aren't going to do. Feel free to call us assholes for declining your request though.

But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!


We don't have to accommodate you, just like you refuse to accommodate other people.
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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:10 am

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Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!


We don't have to accommodate you, just like you refuse to accommodate other people.

I'm offended by it too, therefore you must accommodate us as some but not all find "citizen" very offensive.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:11 am

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:Which we aren't going to do. Feel free to call us assholes for declining your request though.

But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

Right now you're not so much making a point as painting a billboard about how little understanding you have on the subject and setting it on fire so everybody notices.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:11 am

Ucropi wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Considering you used the definition to justify this here:



You don't seem to have a good grasp on what the definition means.
Political Correctness is avoiding offensive behavour etc. Right?
The act of impossing PC on people is what causes censorship. How is this hard to follow?

Here's the problem. You're assuming we're "imposing" PC on someone, when "imposing" PC is usually more along the lines of, "Please stop. That word or phrase offends me."
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:12 am

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Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!


We don't have to accommodate you, just like you refuse to accommodate other people.

But it's offensive! Waaahhhhhh!
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Postby Sdaeriji » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:12 am

Ucropi wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
We don't have to accommodate you, just like you refuse to accommodate other people.

I'm offended by it too, therefore you must accommodate us as some but not all find "citizen" very offensive.


No.

Go ahead, "impose" on me.
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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:12 am

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Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

Right now you're not so much making a point as painting a billboard about how little understanding you have on the subject and setting it on fire so everybody notices.

Not all black people are of african decent, some are but you still call them all "African-American" to be PC.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:12 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

Right now you're not so much making a point as painting a billboard about how little understanding you have on the subject and setting it on fire so everybody notices.

I think I understand it quite well. It's political correctness in a nutshell.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:12 am

Ucropi wrote:
The Batorys wrote:I share your bafflement on this.

I don't get people insisting on calling people things that they know offend them. If I'm informed that calling someone [slur] offends them, it costs me nothing to avoid using that slur.

No one is arguing for the use of slurs, we just don't want to be told what we can or cannot say even if we wouldn't say it anyways.

Once again, use the correct modal verb.

You keep using "cannot" when I think you mean "should not". Distinct difference meaning there.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:13 am

Ucropi wrote:
The Batorys wrote:I share your bafflement on this.

I don't get people insisting on calling people things that they know offend them. If I'm informed that calling someone [slur] offends them, it costs me nothing to avoid using that slur.

No one is arguing for the use of slurs, we just don't want to be told what we can or cannot say even if we wouldn't say it anyways.

What you should or should not say. Look, no one is telling you can't say that, it's a recommendation you can choose to follow or not. They can call you out on it though.

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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:13 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Ucropi wrote:I'm offended by it too, therefore you must accommodate us as some but not all find "citizen" very offensive.


No.

Go ahead, "impose" on me.

You're no longer allowed to use the word "citizen"
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Postby Sdaeriji » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:13 am

Viritica wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
We don't have to accommodate you, just like you refuse to accommodate other people.

But it's offensive! Waaahhhhhh!


Do you actually find it offensive?
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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:13 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Ucropi wrote:No one is arguing for the use of slurs, we just don't want to be told what we can or cannot say even if we wouldn't say it anyways.

What you should or should not say. Look, no one is telling you can't say that, it's a recommendation you can choose to follow or not. They can call you out on it though.

PC has literally nothing to do with calling people on things.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:13 am

Ucropi wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
No.

Go ahead, "impose" on me.

You're no longer allowed to use the word "citizen"

If you do then you're insensitive and should be censored. *nod*
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Which we aren't going to do. Feel free to call us assholes for declining your request though.

But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

I don't care.

See, this is what you say to a person who thinks you're not being PC and you don't give a fuck. Was that so hard?

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

Ucropi wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:What you should or should not say. Look, no one is telling you can't say that, it's a recommendation you can choose to follow or not. They can call you out on it though.

PC has literally nothing to do with calling people on things.

Yeah, it does.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Viritica wrote:But it's offensive! Waaahhhhhh!


Do you actually find it offensive?

Yes of course.

I don't actually find it offensive. I'm just trying to make a point.
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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

I don't care.

See, this is what you say to a person who thinks you're not being PC and you don't give a fuck. Was that so hard?

Wouldn't not instantly validating the offended person be un-PC?
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:15 am

Viritica wrote:
Ucropi wrote:You're no longer allowed to use the word "citizen"

If you do then you're insensitive and should be censored. *nod*

Nah, I like freedom of speech to say what I want.

Damn uppity citizens.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:15 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Viritica wrote:But I'm offended by it! You all have to accommodate me because I'm offended by something I probably shouldn't be offended by anyway!

I don't care.

See, this is what you say to a person who thinks you're not being PC and you don't give a fuck. Was that so hard?

Then you're insensitive. How dare you not accommodate me!
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:15 am

Ucropi wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Right now you're not so much making a point as painting a billboard about how little understanding you have on the subject and setting it on fire so everybody notices.

Not all black people are of african decent, some are but you still call them all "African-American" to be PC.

Please source the non-existent political correctness guide 2014 to prove that this is the case.

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Right now you're not so much making a point as painting a billboard about how little understanding you have on the subject and setting it on fire so everybody notices.

I think I understand it quite well. It's political correctness in a nutshell.

It's something, that's for sure. I'm not sure whether it's ignorance or stupidity but it sure isn't political correctness.
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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:15 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Ucropi wrote:PC has literally nothing to do with calling people on things.

Yeah, it does.

Please give me your definition and whatever you're smoking.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:15 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Viritica wrote:If you do then you're insensitive and should be censored. *nod*

Nah, I like freedom of speech to say what I want.

Damn uppity citizens.

But political correctness!
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