Abortion: human right?

[Darnist]

Except, the fetus is technically life once it becomes a zygote. It has a metabolism and grows, it can adapt to its environment, and one day, it will have the ability to reproduce (discounting abnormal cases). So from this point of view, I believe that abortion is wrong, as it takes away an innocent life.

Unless the mother's life is threatened, then the choice lies with her.

Why does the mother get the choice if her life is threatened?

She gets the choice because it is her life in jeopardy. I wouldn't want someone else making that choice for me.

[The Orson Empire]

The argument that abortion is murder has already been debunked, while you have no evidence other than your emotions to support your claim.

As for the death penalty, we should stoop to their level by killing them? That is barbaric and hypocritical.

My argument still stands.

Whats barbaric is making the man sit in a cell his entire life racked by guilt of murdering someone

Fine, abortion is preemptive murder

So not killing a man is more barbaric than killing a man?

And did you seriously just say abortion is pre-emptive murder? You do not know what you are talking about.

[Geanna]

No it isn't because it doesn't solve the problem of the woman not wanting to be pregnant.

Yeah. So? If a woman get's pregnant, then she can wait 9 months to give birth, and put the child up to adoption. Problem solved.

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If you get rid of a tick, you kill a living animal. If you get rid of a fetus, you kill a clump of cells. The difference? A tick can feel more pain, and is capable of more thought than a fetus.

Alright. Here's a newsflash, genius. We were ALL 'clumps of cells' once. Are any of you okay with the fact that your mother could have chosen not to have you? Are any of you alright with the fact that any of us not been born, because your mother chose to abort you?! I'm not alright with that fact, and nether should you!! The idea of never to have been born is scary and horrific!

If my mother chose not to have me? Well I wouldn't know - it's her body she can do what she wills with it. Nice fallacy there. Thanks for playing.

[The Black Forrest]

Why unless it's through rape?

You're are right, I have seen the light

All abortion should be illegal

Is that an answer?

[The Black Forrest]

I never said that. What I said was that when you put a kid up for adoption, there's a chance they won't get adopted by a loving family.

Even so. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't live. So, adoption is still best option.

Really? So when are you Christians going to step up and adopt all the children in system?

[The 502nd SS]

Whats barbaric is making the man sit in a cell his entire life racked by guilt of murdering someone

Fine, abortion is preemptive murder

So not killing a man is more barbaric than killing a man?

And did you seriously just say abortion is pre-emptive murder? You do not know what you are talking about.

Have you ever felt guilty? It eats away at you and makes you feel horrible and so killing the criminal would end their suffering

[The Black Forrest]

So not killing a man is more barbaric than killing a man?

And did you seriously just say abortion is pre-emptive murder? You do not know what you are talking about.

Have you ever felt guilty? It eats away at you and makes you feel horrible and so killing the criminal would end their suffering

[The 502nd SS]

Even so. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't live. So, adoption is still best option.

Really? So when are you Christians going to step up and adopt all the children in system?

Since I will probably never be able to get laid, I guess I will adopt a couple

[Geanna]

Why unless it's through rape?

You're are right, I have seen the light

All abortion should be illegal

Serious question, and I do mean in all honesty, would you disown your sister if she opted to get an abortion because she didn't want the baby? I'm curious of your mindset here.

[Sdaeriji]

Why does the mother get the choice if her life is threatened?

She gets the choice because it is her life in jeopardy. I wouldn't want someone else making that choice for me.

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

[Neutraligon]

She gets the choice because it is her life in jeopardy. I wouldn't want someone else making that choice for me.

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

It's called self defense. And it isn't murder.

[Darnist]

She gets the choice because it is her life in jeopardy. I wouldn't want someone else making that choice for me.

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

There is a reason why there are laws protecting those who defend their lives. So I use that philosophy in the issue of abortion. If your life is in danger (such as a would-be mother), you can abort that life to save yours. I'm not saying that an unborn baby is out to kill its mother, but the mother also has a right to live.

[Geanna]

She gets the choice because it is her life in jeopardy. I wouldn't want someone else making that choice for me.

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

This is a loaded question, please try harder, I mean honestly, these are the same arguments that are spewed consistently and it only leads to one large circle jerk.

Option A: You abort the pregnancy, you live
Option B: You don't abort, you die

Loaded question is loaded.

[The 502nd SS]

You're are right, I have seen the light

All abortion should be illegal

Serious question, and I do mean in all honesty, would you disown your sister if she opted to get an abortion because she didn't want the baby? I'm curious of your mindset here.

I would want too but I don't know if I could do that to the rest of my family

[The Flutterlands]

Yeah. So? If a woman get's pregnant, then she can wait 9 months to give birth, and put the child up to adoption. Problem solved.

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Alright. Here's a newsflash, genius. We were ALL 'clumps of cells' once. Are any of you okay with the fact that your mother could have chosen not to have you? Are any of you alright with the fact that any of us not been born, because your mother chose to abort you?! I'm not alright with that fact, and nether should you!! The idea of never to have been born is scary and horrific!

Ahh, another argument that conservatives tend to make. If my mother wanted to abort me, then she would have. I would have never know anyway, as I would have never been born.

Regardless, it is a violation of women's rights to make abortion legal. Women should be able to do what they want with their own body.

You're still not getting it! Abortion degrades the value of life itself, and makes what should be seen as a gift, look like a burden: bringing a human being into existence!! A brand new human being is born with as much potential as a rich man or poor man, and should NOT be seen as a burden, but as a gift!

[The 502nd SS]

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

This is a loaded question, please try harder, I mean honestly, these are the same arguments that are spewed consistently and it only leads to one large circle jerk.

Option A: You abort the pregnancy, you live
Option B: You don't abort, you die

Loaded question is loaded.

I forgot about that

As long as the mother's life isn't at risk I'm against abortion

[Neutraligon]

Ahh, another argument that conservatives tend to make. If my mother wanted to abort me, then she would have. I would have never know anyway, as I would have never been born.

Regardless, it is a violation of women's rights to make abortion legal. Women should be able to do what they want with their own body.

You're still not getting it! Abortion degrades the value of life itself, and makes what should be seen as a gift, look a burden: bringing a human being into existence!! A brand new human being is born with as much potential as a rich man or poor man, and should NOT be seen as a burden, but as a gift!

Being pregnant when you do not want to be is a burden. When you do not want to be pregnant that pregnancy is not a gift, that life inside you is not a gift.

[Sdaeriji]

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

This is a loaded question, please try harder, I mean honestly, these are the same arguments that are spewed consistently and it only leads to one large circle jerk.

Option A: You abort the pregnancy, you live
Option B: You don't abort, you die

Loaded question is loaded.

Of course it is a loaded question. The rape and mother's life exceptions are logically inconsistent with the larger anti-abortion viewpoint.

[Sdaeriji]

Murder is okay if you're in danger?

There is a reason why there are laws protecting those who defend their lives. So I use that philosophy in the issue of abortion. If your life is in danger (such as a would-be mother), you can abort that life to save yours. I'm not saying that an unborn baby is out to kill its mother, but the mother also has a right to live.

Self-defense does not generally extend to killing innocent bystanders in an attempt to save yourself.

[Darnist]

You're still not getting it! Abortion degrades the value of life itself, and makes what should be seen as a gift, look a burden: bringing a human being into existence!! A brand new human being is born with as much potential as a rich man or poor man, and should NOT be seen as a burden, but as a gift!

Being pregnant when you do not want to be is a burden. When you do not want to be pregnant that pregnancy is not a gift, that life inside you is not a gift.

There are also many, many ways to prevent yourself from being pregnant. There are shots, condoms, et cetera. If you don't seek out this protection, then it is your own fault you, or get someone else, pregnant.

[The Alma Mater]

Ahh, another argument that conservatives tend to make. If my mother wanted to abort me, then she would have. I would have never know anyway, as I would have never been born.

Regardless, it is a violation of women's rights to make abortion legal. Women should be able to do what they want with their own body.

You're still not getting it! Abortion degrades the value of life itself, and makes what should be seen as a gift, look like a burden: bringing a human being into existence!! A brand new human being is born with as much potential as a rich man or poor man, and should NOT be seen as a burden, but as a gift!

You say this as if "degrading the fact of life' is a bad thing.
Why would it be ? Being alive is merely a fact.

[The Orson Empire]

Have you ever felt guilty? It eats away at you and makes you feel horrible and so killing the criminal would end their suffering

I don't understand his logic either.

[The Flutterlands]

You're still not getting it! Abortion degrades the value of life itself, and makes what should be seen as a gift, look a burden: bringing a human being into existence!! A brand new human being is born with as much potential as a rich man or poor man, and should NOT be seen as a burden, but as a gift!

Being pregnant when you do not want to be is a burden. When you do not want to be pregnant that pregnancy is not a gift, that life inside you is not a gift.

Then unless she was raped, the woman should not have had sex during her period in the first place.

[Neutraligon]

Being pregnant when you do not want to be is a burden. When you do not want to be pregnant that pregnancy is not a gift, that life inside you is not a gift.

There are also many, many ways to prevent yourself from being pregnant. There are shots, condoms, et cetera. If you don't seek out this protection, then it is your own fault you, or get someone else, pregnant.

Protections fail, especially when people do not know how to use them.

[The 502nd SS]

I don't understand his logic either.

hmm I guess didn't really make sense but I still support the death penalty