Obama: Good President or Bad?

[United States of Cascadia]

Like having health insurance is going to kill you.

No, its the forcing everyone to have the same healthcare. And considering its the US government, who has refined their ways of killing since 1776, it will.

Now, if it was "all poor people, if you can't afford another, need this" then it wouldn't be too much of a problem. My family is doing just fine under Kaiser, I'd rather not have Obamacare.

The mandate just requires that you get insurance, it doesn't require anything specific. You can stay on Kaiser.

[Vikipolis]

he's a fantastic human being, not sure if that's what the US needed right now though. short-term I think Mitt Romney would've been a better choice, and I don't even like the guy. minorities and poorer citizens would pay for the crisis but aren't they paying it already without any improvements? the difference being financially and economically speaking, the US should've been healthier by now. Obama is more of a stable and peaceful times president, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, we need those as well.

[Communal Ecotopia]

he's a fantastic human being, not sure if that's what the US needed right now though. short-term I think Mitt Romney would've been a better choice, and I don't even like the guy. minorities and poorer citizens would pay for the crisis but aren't they paying it already without any improvements? the difference being financially and economically speaking, the US should've been healthier by now. Obama is more of a stable and peaceful times president, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, we need those as well.

The US economy should have been better by now? Did you see the depth of the hole and the deregulation? That was a 15-20 year project...the problem was Obama didn't say that.

[The United Territories of Providence]

He's managed to bring us out of our 1.3 trillion dollar deficit, it's 580 billion and falling. He brought our troops home from Iraq. He organized an effort that lead to the death of Osama Bin Laden. He avoided war with Syria by diplomacy. He's promoted equal rights for the LGBT community. He's promoted green energy over coal and oil. Unemployment is falling to reasonable levels. He hasn't been blindly supporting Israel, and has been willing to criticize their actions.

All that's good and well but.....

Guantanamo is open. The NSA is stronger than it ever was under the Bush Administration. Obama has increased government surveillance on the American people, and our allies. The Affordable Care Act isn't working like it should, many people had to give up their plans or see premium increases. He promises to pursue gun control, but he doesn't and the number of gun deaths rise everyday (I don't agree with gun control, but a promise is a promise). In 6 years he hasn't realized that the house GOP doesn't want to compromise with him, they want to obstruct any progress. But he still refuses to take executive action to get things done that need doing. He hasn't punished the bankers that lead to the collapse in 2009, they still walk the streets free. We'll be in Afghanistan until 2024. Worst of all the IRS is targeting political groups for having anti-democrat leanings, and we're still not sure what the President knew and when he knew about it. He's said he learns about his administration by watching the news just like us....WTF.

He's done Fair, but there hasn't been much hope or change. He's not a good president, and he'll never be great. But he's certainly no George W. Bush..... which is the best compliment you can get. Man was a easily fooled, he was a liar, he was a war criminal, and he was incompetent on matters both fiscal and social. How he won re-election is beyond me. (Because he didn't "win" the first time, GORE WON, KILL THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE)

[Communal Ecotopia]

He's managed to bring us out of our 1.3 trillion dollar deficit, it's 580 billion and falling. He brought our troops home from Iraq. He organized an effort that lead to the death of Osama Bin Laden. He avoided war with Syria by diplomacy. He's promoted equal rights for the LGBT community. He's promoted green energy over coal and oil. Unemployment is falling to reasonable levels. He hasn't been blindly supporting Israel, and has been willing to criticize their actions.

All that's good and well but.....

Guantanamo is open. The NSA is stronger than it ever was under the Bush Administration. Obama has increased government surveillance on the American people, and our allies. The Affordable Care Act isn't working like it should, many people had to give up their plans or see premium increases. He promises to pursue gun control, but he doesn't and the number of gun deaths rise everyday (I don't agree with gun control, but a promise is a promise). In 6 years he hasn't realized that the house GOP doesn't want to compromise with him, they want to obstruct any progress. But he still refuses to take executive action to get things done that need doing. He hasn't punished the bankers that lead to the collapse in 2009, they still walk the streets free. We'll be in Afghanistan until 2024. Worst of all the IRS is targeting political groups for having anti-democrat leanings, and we're still not sure what the President knew and when he knew about it. He's said he learns about his administration by watching the news just like us....WTF.

He's done Fair, but there hasn't been much hope or change. He's not a good president, and he'll never be great. But he's certainly no George W. Bush..... which is the best compliment you can get. Man was a easily fooled, he was a liar, he was a war criminal, and he was incompetent on matters both fiscal and social. How he won re-election is beyond me. (Because he didn't "win" the first time, GORE WON, KILL THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE)

Will wonders never cease. A pro-gun, pro-capitalism registered Republican, and I agree with him. Hell, I think I could have written this.

[Arkinesia]

Obama is this generation's Jimmy Carter.

Not completely wrong, but I would argue Carter was more successful and was only defeated electorally because of impatience—Reagan carried over key Carter people, like Carter's Fed director.

[Farnhamia]

Obama is this generation's Jimmy Carter.

Not completely wrong, but I would argue Carter was more successful and was only defeated electorally because of impatience—Reagan carried over key Carter people, like Carter's Fed director.

One Fed director doth not "people" make. Carter lost 1980 because he alienated his own party, who didn't care for his "Washington outsider" schtick, and because the liberal wing of the party wanted to replace him with Ted Kennedy. When Kennedy's primary campaign turned out to be a bust, much to the surprise of a number of people, the liberals only provided Carter with lukewarm support. And the Iran hostage crisis didn't help, since Carter's only forceful attempt to rescue the hostages crashed in the desert.

[Wind in the Willows]

Kinda okay I guess. He's done some good stuff.

Yeah, some good stuff.

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

[The 502nd SS]

Yeah, some good stuff.

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

We shouldn't close Guantanamo bay

[Wind in the Willows]

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

We shouldn't close Guantanamo bay

I somewhat agree, but he still hasn't done what he said he would.

[Farnhamia]

Yeah, some good stuff.

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

Yeah, he did. The mistake made was doing it to quickly and not reckoning with Congressional reaction.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

He's a corporatist and a neo-neoconservative who has literally no regard for the law. He's even worse than Bush. He's a tyrant at home, a war machine in the Middle East and an incompetent fool everywhere else. Not to mention he's the closest thing the US has had to a dictator since FDR. So he's a very special kind of awful.

[Washington Resistance Army]

He's a corporatist and a neo-neoconservative who has literally no regard for the law. He's even worse than Bush. He's a tyrant at home, a war machine in the Middle East and an incompetent fool everywhere else. Not to mention he's the closest thing the US has had to a dictator since FDR. So he's a very special kind of awful.

Yeah, dictator and a tyrant that's what he is.

[Wind in the Willows]

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

Yeah, he did. The mistake made was doing it to quickly and not reckoning with Congressional reaction.

So why are people still being imprisoned there then?

[The 502nd SS]

We shouldn't close Guantanamo bay

I somewhat agree, but he still hasn't done what he said he would.

I think the UN should allow countries to torture terrorist.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

He's a corporatist and a neo-neoconservative who has literally no regard for the law. He's even worse than Bush. He's a tyrant at home, a war machine in the Middle East and an incompetent fool everywhere else. Not to mention he's the closest thing the US has had to a dictator since FDR. So he's a very special kind of awful.

Yeah, dictator and a tyrant that's what he is.

Where have you been for the past five years? Do you know how frequently he trashes the Constitution and statute law?

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

This site lies on some things, look at the closing Guantanamo Bay one. He hasn't done it yet.

We shouldn't close Guantanamo bay

Gitmo is a key military base in the Carribean, and the only part of Cuba not controlled by Communists. But the detention camp really does need to be shut down.

[Farnhamia]

Yeah, he did. The mistake made was doing it to quickly and not reckoning with Congressional reaction.

So why are people still being imprisoned there then?

Because the 2011 NDAA contained restrictions on bringing the prisoners to the mainland. Read the link I linked you.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yeah, dictator and a tyrant that's what he is.

Where have you been for the past five years? Do you know how frequently he trashes the Constitution and statute law?

If you think Obama is a dictator and a tyrant you are showing you have no idea what either is. That's typical Tea Party bullshit with nothing to back it up, go ahead if he has violated the Constitution and law so much impeach him.

[The 502nd SS]

We shouldn't close Guantanamo bay

Gitmo is a key military base in the Carribean, and the only part of Cuba not controlled by Communists. But the detention camp really does need to be shut down.

Why does it need to be shut down?

[Othelos]

More like a weak fool who paved the way for Reagan's rise. I can only hope Obama does the same.

I pray that we have another Reagan

I thought conservatives were the most worried about the national debt? Reagan increased it dramatically.

[Othelos]

Gitmo is a key military base in the Carribean, and the only part of Cuba not controlled by Communists. But the detention camp really does need to be shut down.

Why does it need to be shut down?

Because people are held there w/o trial.

[Intonisia]

i dislike Obama strongly. but that doesn't make bush any better of a president. in my opinion both were not so great presidents. i just think Obama's administration has done more harm
to the nations well being and economy. but the issue im more worried about is how most Americans. and note i said "most" Americans are more worried about social issues instead of economic issues.

[Roski]

i dislike Obama strongly. but that doesn't make bush any better of a president. in my opinion both were not so great presidents. i just think Obama's administration has done more harm
to the nations well being and economy. but the issue im more worried about is how most Americans. and note i said "most" Americans are more worried about social issues instead of economic issues.

He's done ok socially. Economically was just an utter failure, and don't get me started on military.

[Intonisia]

i dislike Obama strongly. but that doesn't make bush any better of a president. in my opinion both were not so great presidents. i just think Obama's administration has done more harm
to the nations well being and economy. but the issue im more worried about is how most Americans. and note i said "most" Americans are more worried about social issues instead of economic issues.

He's done ok socially. Economically was just an utter failure, and don't get me started on military.

i agree economically hes left some pretty nasty dents, and his military policy is awful. and i also think he has had a week foreign policy.
he has also shown his true colors recently by refusing to do anything about the border crisis except throw a couple billion dollars at it and choosing to goof off and play pool while multiple international incidents are taking place.