Obama: Good President or Bad?

[Communal Ecotopia]

Deadly!

I have to share a fucking room with my stupid brother after living by myself before the Recession...to taste freedom and then have Obama yank it away...god damn it I get so pissed off....

Lets get a fucking Republican into the White House in 2016!

The economy crashed under Bush Wanna try again? These things can't get fixed over night, and despite what some far rightwing nutjobs say the economy has gotten better since 2008.

So true... I figured, given the magnitude of the whole the US finances were in post-Bush, that it would take about fifteen to twenty years to recover...and that was without the Supreme Court happily handing corporations the keys to the castle.

[Scimita]

I'm sure there are more qualified people out there

[The 502nd SS]

Instead of right sizing the military he's downsizing it and cutting a lot of officers and senior NCOs. Since I seek a career in the military, its looking bad seeing my future career under attack like that.

Yeah, why aren't we pursuing military funding equivalent to the entire fucking planet combined instead of a measly two-thirds of the rest of the fucking planet combined? "Right-sizing" is only accurate if you mean "funding at a level acceptable to the most rabid members of the far-right".

right sizing, instead of wasting money on the F-35 and building new tanks we can put the money towards research of new tech. Plus haven't you seen the navy adds before? 'A global force for good'

[Britanno]

Good in general, but his foreign policy is flawed.

EDIT: Although to be fair, he has been in a very difficult situation with foreign affairs. He couldn't do a Bush and send the troops in, because he'd seen what the opinion polls thought of Bush. The American people had already seen one tactic fail, so they were waiting for another. It would have been incredibly hard to come up with a foreign policy guaranteed to work, because he had to try something new.

[Farnhamia]

I'm sure there are more qualified people out there

Well, there is former Secretary of State Clinton. But on the Republican side, who? John McCain, the Angry Old Man of the Senate, who let his party force Sarah Palin on him as a running mate? Mitt Romney, the Poor Little Rich Boy? And we won't even go into the Republicans who didn't win the nomination, except to say that Jon Huntsman would have had to kiss so much Tea Party ass getting there he'd lose any credibility as a "moderate."

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

He is the worst president ever!

[Calimera II]

Why isn't there a "good but worse than Bush" option? As if everyone here regards Bush to be worse than Obama?

(No I don't like Bush very much).

[Arkinesia]

Six years in, Obama's inexperience is painfully obvious. But mainly I think the problem is that while he could have been a good president under different circumstances, it would be impossible in the current backdrop.

He's neither a bad nor a good president. Middle of the road, probably will drop a little closer to my bottom end over time.

[Communal Ecotopia]

Technically the deregulation by Reagan started this whole bubble.

So...it's Reagan's fault, not Bush's, but at the same time, it's neither of their faults and is really Obama's fault for being a pathetic president...riiight.

Obama forced Obamacare down America's throat and you wonder how he is going to get rich?

I'm sure all the health insurance companies that helped him fund raise and champion this cause won't forget about their ally in the white house...its how American politics work...buy your politician and use him or her for all their worth...

How about Obama fixes the homeless issue or something more noble then fucking forcing us to go to a stupid doctor?!

So, Obama is going to get rich off of Obamacare, because the insurance companies, whom are being slapped by obamacare since it makes them actually cover stuff for poorer people, are going to reward him discreetly later on for passing it...And I do think that it was a noble cause, trying to get proper healthcare for everyone, although the results may or may not be noble.

Actually, given the no-public-option problem, the ACA is probably the biggest give-away to insurance companies in a very long time. Imagine 40 million new people to predate on... And, I, at least, was foolish enough to think it would lower rates (the risk pool isn't THAT bad), but no...it's just more people to gouge.

[Wisconsin9]

He is the worst president ever!

Not even close, but I'm sure FOX News would like to thank you for parroting their motto.

[MERIZoC]

He is the worst president ever!

Has he ever attempted to, or succeeded in committing genocide?

[Estado Paulista]

Obama is this generation's Jimmy Carter.

[The 502nd SS]

He is the worst president ever!

Damn commie, that ain't true but he's up there with Carter, Hoover, and Ford

[Roski]

I'm sure there are more qualified people out there

Well, there is former Secretary of State Clinton. But on the Republican side, who? John McCain, the Angry Old Man of the Senate, who let his party force Sarah Palin on him as a running mate? Mitt Romney, the Poor Little Rich Boy? And we won't even go into the Republicans who didn't win the nomination, except to say that Jon Huntsman would have had to kiss so much Tea Party ass getting there he'd lose any credibility as a "moderate."

This is why we need a multi-party system like in Europe.

[The 502nd SS]

Obama is this generation's Jimmy Carter.

Good intentions but no action

[Roski]

He is the worst president ever!

Has he ever attempted to, or succeeded in committing genocide?

Ask Pakistan.

[Farnhamia]

So...it's Reagan's fault, not Bush's, but at the same time, it's neither of their faults and is really Obama's fault for being a pathetic president...riiight.



So, Obama is going to get rich off of Obamacare, because the insurance companies, whom are being slapped by obamacare since it makes them actually cover stuff for poorer people, are going to reward him discreetly later on for passing it...And I do think that it was a noble cause, trying to get proper healthcare for everyone, although the results may or may not be noble.

Actually, given the no-public-option problem, the ACA is probably the biggest give-away to insurance companies in a very long time. Imagine 40 million new people to predate on... And, I, at least, was foolish enough to think it would lower rates (the risk pool isn't THAT bad), but no...it's just more people to gouge.

Except the ACA took away a number of their gouging tools. It was the best that could be done. You wanted perfect? If you expected perfect you should clean those rose-colored glasses.

[Roski]

Actually, given the no-public-option problem, the ACA is probably the biggest give-away to insurance companies in a very long time. Imagine 40 million new people to predate on... And, I, at least, was foolish enough to think it would lower rates (the risk pool isn't THAT bad), but no...it's just more people to gouge.

Except the ACA took away a number of their gouging tools. It was the best that could be done. You wanted perfect? If you expected perfect you should clean those rose-colored glasses.

Really, the ACA has one issue for me, its the mandate.

[Farnhamia]

Except the ACA took away a number of their gouging tools. It was the best that could be done. You wanted perfect? If you expected perfect you should clean those rose-colored glasses.

Really, the ACA has one issue for me, its the mandate.

Like having health insurance is going to kill you.

[Estado Paulista]

Obama is this generation's Jimmy Carter.

Good intentions but no action

More like a weak fool who paved the way for Reagan's rise. I can only hope Obama does the same.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

He is the worst president ever!

Has he ever attempted to, or succeeded in committing genocide?

Does abortion count?

[Farnhamia]

Good intentions but no action

More like a weak fool who paved the way for Reagan's rise. I can only hope Obama does the same.

If I were a believer I would pray for that not to happen. Anyway, Reagan is too liberal for today's GOP.

[Roski]

Really, the ACA has one issue for me, its the mandate.

Like having health insurance is going to kill you.

No, its the forcing everyone to have the same healthcare. And considering its the US government, who has refined their ways of killing since 1776, it will.

Now, if it was "all poor people, if you can't afford another, need this" then it wouldn't be too much of a problem. My family is doing just fine under Kaiser, I'd rather not have Obamacare.

[Communal Ecotopia]

I was more against his social views. His foreign policy was a bit rocky at best - Supporting several anti-Palestinians, supporting the invasion of Iraq and the continued arming of foreign militants to topple regimes, three things which haven't exactly worked out too well over the years. But I feel that his Guantanamo policy would've ended up like Obama's, a lie. On the social front, I'm referring to his opposition towards equality bills and the blaming of Vaccinations for the rise of Autism, which just isn't the case. Plus his idea that we should teach intelligent design in schools, his anti-birth control and sex education policies and his pro-gun attitude.

President Obama issued an order closing Guantanamo in 2009. Congress promptly had a hissy fit and refused to fund it.

Yep. Good point.

[Roski]

Has he ever attempted to, or succeeded in committing genocide?

Does abortion count?

No.