Obama Bans the Import of the Russian AK 47/74.

[Farnhamia]

This doesn't seem to be targeting Russia. It seems to be targeting the Russian economy which affects Russian civilians who had nothing to do with the business in Ukraine.

The idea being, perhaps naively, that targeting the economy will cause the Russian people to rise up and put pressure on their leaders ... wait, no, sorry, I forgot what I was talking about for a moment. Short of Ronald Reagan's famous "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes," what other options than economic sanctions does the United States have?

[Sklavinia]

That fourth option I need a little explaining. Does the Russian economy run on AKs?

AKs and Vodka.

On topic, I support this and the other sanctions that have been laid down. In fact, I think we need to turn the pressure up.

Oh yeah, because there's nothing like bullying a country into a recession because you don't like how a referendum turned out. A very mature and civilized response.

Crimea is gone. It's not coming back. Get over it.

[Sklavinia]

OP, it's not about the Malaysian plane, it's about Crimea, and the misguided belief that the rebels in Donbass are under Putin's direct command. The US already deduced we had nothing to do with the plane being shot down.

[Sdaeriji]

The point is to put pressure on their governments. If that results in hardship then tough shit.

And it's not genocide.

Napkiraly, why is it not genocide? Why should a distant state or many distant states (the west) force a state to do something by targeting the lives of innocent civilians? That's murder on a grand scale, so it's genocide.

Why is it not genocide to destroy access to health care by civilians? That's the opposite of humanitarian aid.

Why would a few government heads genuinely care about some civilians? I think they would be seen as losers as sick governments can have sick goals and sick priorities. How can we even be sure that the Iranian government has nuclear weapons or whatevr they are being accused of?

The ruling Iranian elite could survive without the people. They have the same problem in North Korea -- the leaders live a lavish life, while peasants are starving.

Here's an article on two websites. It shows how the sanctions have destroyed the nation. I'll quote something for you from that article: The economic sanctions on Iran are illegal under the international law and meet the UN definition of genocide. Nonetheless, US Congressman Brad Sherman has said “Critics [of the sanctions] argued that these measures will hurt the Iranian people. Quite frankly, we need to do just that.” Similarly, Congressman Gary Ackerman said, “The goal…is to inflict crippling, unendurable economic pain over there.” These sentiments to target the population to feel the pain of the sanctions are echoed by other Western statesmen.

The UN Convention on Genocide defines genocide as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such…[including] causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; [and] deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” How else are we to interpret the sanctions affecting the import of baby milk and tetanus vaccine, and the announcement by Iran’s Ministry of Health that Iran’s medical drug reserves will run out within two months?
http://www.fairobserver.com/region/midd ... d-artists/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/sanctions- ... ty/5315115

Bill Clinton could have stopped this genocide when he asked his advisor if sanctions were necessary, but he didn't.

Also, do you think Russians would care much about imposed sanctions on Russia? Dude, there are generations that have survived cold war, fall of Soviet and rough experiences like that. I'm sure the oligarchs would survive and the people wouldn't care.

Sanctions don't work. Try to hammer it into your head, Napkiraly.

Pictured: economic sanctions on arms manufacturers.

[Distruzio]

This doesn't seem to be targeting Russia. It seems to be targeting the Russian economy which affects Russian civilians who had nothing to do with the business in Ukraine.

The idea being, perhaps naively, that targeting the economy will cause the Russian people to rise up and put pressure on their leaders ... wait, no, sorry, I forgot what I was talking about for a moment. Short of Ronald Reagan's famous "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes," what other options than economic sanctions does the United States have?

The simplest one. Keep trading. Shut the fuck up.

[Farnhamia]

The idea being, perhaps naively, that targeting the economy will cause the Russian people to rise up and put pressure on their leaders ... wait, no, sorry, I forgot what I was talking about for a moment. Short of Ronald Reagan's famous "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes," what other options than economic sanctions does the United States have?

The simplest one. Keep trading. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, well, some people seem to feel that the Russian leadership's actions vis a vis Ukraine have been out of line. "Keep trading" rewards what is perceived as bad behavior. And "shut the fuck up" doesn't seem a reasonable response.

[Dixie]

The simplest one. Keep trading. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, well, some people seem to feel that the Russian leadership's actions vis a vis Ukraine have been out of line. "Keep trading" rewards what is perceived as bad behavior. And "shut the fuck up" doesn't seem a reasonable response.

If nations stopped trading over some bad governmental behavior, no one would do business with the US anyway. I mean maybe the world should have stopped trading with us when we went into Iraq in 2003 and ushered in an age of instability and barbarism. But I suppose as an American I should embrace American exceptionalism and hate the Russkis.

[Distruzio]

The simplest one. Keep trading. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, well, some people seem to feel that the Russian leadership's actions vis a vis Ukraine have been out of line. "Keep trading" rewards what is perceived as bad behavior. And "shut the fuck up" doesn't seem a reasonable response.

How does it reward bad behavior? Is Russia a country with a history of accepting chastisement?

How is "shut the fuck up" unreasonable?

[Farnhamia]

Yeah, well, some people seem to feel that the Russian leadership's actions vis a vis Ukraine have been out of line. "Keep trading" rewards what is perceived as bad behavior. And "shut the fuck up" doesn't seem a reasonable response.

How does it reward bad behavior? Is Russia a country with a history of accepting chastisement?

How is "shut the fuck up" unreasonable?

We shouldn't do anything because Russia never listens anyway? Having the West (or at least the US) "shut the fuck up" smacks of appeasement.

[Aurulie]

Putin hasn't done anything wrong.

Apart violating Ukraine's sovereignty.

Let's ignore the fact that Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

[Dixie]

Apart violating Ukraine's sovereignty.

Let's ignore the fact that Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

Does it?

[Keyboard Warriors]

Apart violating Ukraine's sovereignty.

Let's ignore the fact that Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

Let's, considering that's not actually a fact at all.

[Scholmeria]

Who cares about that uncapable person?

Most countries in Europe sees that Russia has right and continues to trading with Russia. France is about to sell an aircareer to Russia.

This only shows that the US is a declining power.

[Farnhamia]

Let's ignore the fact that Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

Let's, considering that's not actually a fact at all.

Maybe all the fighting is them playing hard to get.

[Ifreann]

Who cares about that uncapable person?

Most countries in Europe sees that Russia has right and continues to trading with Russia. France is about to sell an aircareer to Russia.

This only shows that the US is a declining power.

European countries are placing sanctions on Russia too...

[Aurulie]

OP, it's not about the Malaysian plane, it's about Crimea, and the misguided belief that the rebels in Donbass are under Putin's direct command. The US already deduced we had nothing to do with the plane being shot down.

They're still pointing the not so subtle finger.

[Keyboard Warriors]

OP, it's not about the Malaysian plane, it's about Crimea, and the misguided belief that the rebels in Donbass are under Putin's direct command. The US already deduced we had nothing to do with the plane being shot down.

The US deduced Russia didn't shoot down the plane and that's about it.

OP, it's not about the Malaysian plane, it's about Crimea, and the misguided belief that the rebels in Donbass are under Putin's direct command. The US already deduced we had nothing to do with the plane being shot down.

They're still pointing the not so subtle finger.

As they should be. It's Russia's Buk.

[Scholmeria]

Who cares about that uncapable person?

Most countries in Europe sees that Russia has right and continues to trading with Russia. France is about to sell an aircareer to Russia.

This only shows that the US is a declining power.

European countries are placing sanctions on Russia too...

Thoose "sanctions" has zero effect on Russia. The only that are sanctioned are some oligarchs from Russia and that is it. Even if they followed the instruction of the Russian government they would easily avoid them so it is the own faulth of the oligarchs.

Germany, France and even UK are continuing to trading with Russia especially in energetics and for Obama nobody gives a shit.

[Aurulie]

Let's ignore the fact that Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

Let's, considering that's not actually a fact at all.

Yea so I guess half the country doesn't want to part of Russia.

[Vazdania]

According to CNN, the U.S. has placed sanctions on Russia, banning the import of all new Russian AK 47/74s by executive order. The reason for the sanction, is Russia's alleged involvement in the downed Malaysian aircraft and their actions in Ukraine. TBH, I think no matter what Russia does in the future, the ban will never be lifted. Just look at China and the ban we placed on their rifles. Obama killed two birds with one stone on this.

LOOOOOOOL maybe that'll help the domestic producers! HAHAHAHA!

[Keyboard Warriors]

Let's, considering that's not actually a fact at all.

Yea so I guess half the country doesn't want to part of Russia.

You guessed wrong. Much more than half the country doesn't want to be a part of Russia.

[Memell]

the USA need to understand that they are no longer the caput mundi. They just need to manage the decline, and stop acting like they can make empires fall just by snapping their fingers.

And i'm not sure why they keep on this policy of sanctions, probably just to show the public eye that they are doing something, but i don't think sanctions have ever worked out in a globalised economy. "The USA don't buy our AKs? I'm sure the Syrians will lke a few of those, along with our other allies( -stans countries)".

[Alcase]

I hope they can be made in America.

Yes but the U.S.-made AK-74s are usually of lower quality than Russian-made AK-74s

[Alcase]

I don't think the OP knows a little more than nothing about guns

[Dixie]

I hope they can be made in America.

Yes but the U.S.-made AK-74s are usually of lower quality than Russian-made AK-74s

Just means the value will go up, meaning profits for some of us. Thank you, Obama.