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Postby Peachany » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:46 pm

No-Sense because you can use condoms or viagra if you don't want to be pregnant.
If you don't want to die, don't practice heavy sex...
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:47 pm

Upper America wrote:And women won't get the social benefits. That's one "benefit" down.

Unless women aren't human, they do.
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Mavorpen wrote:Oh, oh, can you next tell me what I'm going to eat for breakfast in 20 days?

Sounds like you're sarcastically disproving him to me.

Then you should probably actually read that post, then.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:49 pm

Peachany wrote:No-Sense because you can use condoms or viagra if you don't want to be pregnant.
If you don't want to die, don't practice heavy sex...

1.21 Giga-wot? I can't make sense of this post as heavy sex doesn't kill. HIV does.
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Postby Kargintina » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:49 pm

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Untaroicht wrote:Don't teach sex ed in schools at all, leave it to the parents to educate them the way their moral code teaches.


:rofl:

In a serious topic like this, I don't usually use Smilies, but I had to.

That's absolutely an awful idea.

Actually it's pretty good

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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:49 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Parents and schools both are terrible when it comes to teaching about sex. That said, many parents won't do it at all, so someone has to fill the gap they've left, namely the schools. Let's be honest. If you don't want pregnancies and STD's, abstinence is the most effective option. However, most kids aren't fond of that idea, so other alternatives should be part of the discussion as well.

The whole problem with abstinence is that it is utterly unnatural.

Plastic surgery isn't natural. Wearing clothes isn't natural. Killing people for no reason isn't natural. Driving isn't natural. There's a lot of things people do that aren't natural.

Peachany wrote:No-Sense because you can use condoms or viagra if you don't want to be pregnant.
If you don't want to die, don't practice heavy sex...

Viagra? Never heard that one before.

And the dying part? That was a joke. The discussion is about sex ed, and OP got it from a quote in a movie. The title was just meant to be funny and creative, and that's what that quote was.
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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:51 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Parents and schools both are terrible when it comes to teaching about sex. That said, many parents won't do it at all, so someone has to fill the gap they've left, namely the schools. Let's be honest. If you don't want pregnancies and STD's, abstinence is the most effective option. However, most kids aren't fond of that idea, so other alternatives should be part of the discussion as well.

The whole problem with abstinence is that it is utterly unnatural.

I never said it was or was not natural. I'm merely stating facts. Personally, I have chosen to be abstinent for 19 years. I do not necessarily expect others to choose as I have. I expect others to make the choice that is right for their own situation.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:53 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Peachany wrote:No-Sense because you can use condoms or viagra if you don't want to be pregnant.
If you don't want to die, don't practice heavy sex...

1.21 Giga-wot? I can't make sense of this post as heavy sex doesn't kill. HIV does.

Erotic asphyxiation.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:53 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Parents and schools both are terrible when it comes to teaching about sex. That said, many parents won't do it at all, so someone has to fill the gap they've left, namely the schools. Let's be honest. If you don't want pregnancies and STD's, abstinence is the most effective option. However, most kids aren't fond of that idea, so other alternatives should be part of the discussion as well.

The whole problem with abstinence is that it is utterly unnatural.

To be fair, natural and unnatural don't tell us the merits of an idea. Effectiveness does. The whole problem with abstinence is that it's unrealistic to expect someone to remain celibate when in a relationship and not something that can be realistically expected from teenagers.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:53 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Parents and schools both are terrible when it comes to teaching about sex. That said, many parents won't do it at all, so someone has to fill the gap they've left, namely the schools. Let's be honest. If you don't want pregnancies and STD's, abstinence is the most effective option. However, most kids aren't fond of that idea, so other alternatives should be part of the discussion as well.

The whole problem with abstinence is that it is utterly unnatural.

And condoms, birth control, and so on are so very natural themselves. :P The whole "is it unnatural?" argument is a worthless point anyhow. Some people can go the abstinence route, some can't. The main problem with teaching abstinence-only is that it leaves gaps for various falsehoods and misunderstandings. Stuff like virginity pledges especially so, because randy teens who haven't been taught the real risks sidestep those pledges by any number of unsafe practices. "It's not breaking the pledge if you only do anal or oral!" or "You're safe as long as the dude pulls out before he blows his load!" Because they don't have the comprehensive facts about how STIs spread or that "BTW, pulling out to prevent pregancy is a MYTH!" they don't take the appropriate precautions, and instead wrongfully assume that things that evade their pledge are safe.
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:56 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
:rofl:

In a serious topic like this, I don't usually use Smilies, but I had to.

That's absolutely an awful idea.

Actually it's pretty good

Some religious parents teach their kids that abstinence is the only way until you get married. But then, that kid won't know anything about sex. They'll just know to not do it until they get married. Doesn't sound very good to me.

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Upper America wrote:And women won't get the social benefits. That's one "benefit" down.

Unless women aren't human, they do.

Who said anything about being human? I don't think being called a slut by all of your friends and family is gonna benefit you socially. Unless you like that kind of stuff.

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Upper America wrote:


Sounds like you're sarcastically disproving him to me.

Then you should probably actually read that post, then.

If I read it wrong, then please tell me how asking him to predict what you'll eat in 20 days is relevant? I'm not stupid, I can detect sarcasm when I see it.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:56 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:The whole problem with abstinence is that it is utterly unnatural.

And condoms, birth control, and so on are so very natural themselves. :P The whole "is it unnatural?" argument is a worthless point anyhow. Some people can go the abstinence route, some can't. The main problem with teaching abstinence-only is that it leaves gaps for various falsehoods and misunderstandings. Stuff like virginity pledges especially so, because randy teens who haven't been taught the real risks sidestep those pledges by any number of unsafe practices. "It's not breaking the pledge if you only do anal or oral!" or "You're safe as long as the dude pulls out before he blows his load!" Because they don't have the comprehensive facts about how STIs spread or that "BTW, pulling out to prevent pregancy is a MYTH!" they don't take the appropriate precautions, and instead wrongfully assume that things that evade their pledge are safe.

You make a good point, just allow me to correct one little thing: some people can go the abstinence route, most can't.
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Postby Peachany » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:1.21 Giga-wot? I can't make sense of this post as heavy sex doesn't kill. HIV does.

Erotic asphyxiation.


Peaches are erotic fruit ;)
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:1.21 Giga-wot? I can't make sense of this post as heavy sex doesn't kill. HIV does.

Erotic asphyxiation.

You'd have to be banging pretty hard for that to happen. Besides, erotic asphyxiation is rare, right?
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:58 pm

Upper America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Erotic asphyxiation.

You'd have to be banging pretty hard for that to happen. Besides, erotic asphyxiation is rare, right?

I'm no scientist, but I think it is entirely possible to have sex without erotic asphyxiation.
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Postby Pola » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:58 pm

Peachany wrote:
Galloism wrote:Erotic asphyxiation.


Peaches are erotic fruit ;)


Oh yeah! Indeed!!

But the fact that Sex is dangerous, is say no.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:59 pm

Upper America wrote:Who said anything about being human? I don't think being called a slut by all of your friends and family is gonna benefit you socially. Unless you like that kind of stuff.

Of course it isn't. The good part about this is that not every female is considered a slut by their friends. So yeah, as long as women remain human, they obtain the benefits of every human.

Upper America wrote:If I read it wrong, then please tell me how asking him to predict what you'll eat in 20 days is relevant? I'm not stupid, I can detect sarcasm when I see it.

It's relevant because he can't predict anything with 100% accuracy.

I mean, EVERY person here got that, except for you.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:00 pm

Upper America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Erotic asphyxiation.

You'd have to be banging pretty hard for that to happen. Besides, erotic asphyxiation is rare, right?

Not sure. I've known a number of women who were into it, just with the "use your hand" part.

I'm terribly wary of using things like a belt, rope, etc, because it can harder to tell if your "release" is actually releasing the airway. The hand is more... responsive.
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:01 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:And condoms, birth control, and so on are so very natural themselves. :P The whole "is it unnatural?" argument is a worthless point anyhow. Some people can go the abstinence route, some can't. The main problem with teaching abstinence-only is that it leaves gaps for various falsehoods and misunderstandings. Stuff like virginity pledges especially so, because randy teens who haven't been taught the real risks sidestep those pledges by any number of unsafe practices. "It's not breaking the pledge if you only do anal or oral!" or "You're safe as long as the dude pulls out before he blows his load!" Because they don't have the comprehensive facts about how STIs spread or that "BTW, pulling out to prevent pregancy is a MYTH!" they don't take the appropriate precautions, and instead wrongfully assume that things that evade their pledge are safe.

You make a good point, just allow me to correct one little thing: some people can go the abstinence route, most can't.

And because some people can, it's best to mention it in school. You'll reach out to those who can potentially stay abstinent. Teach abstinence along with safe sex, and you're keeping as many students sexually safe as possible.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:02 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
Upper America wrote:You'd have to be banging pretty hard for that to happen. Besides, erotic asphyxiation is rare, right?

I'm no scientist, but I think it is entirely possible to have sex without erotic asphyxiation.

Well, sure - if you want to be boring and pedestrian about it. Here I am sharing a brief bit of knowledge with a bunch of virgins and you gotta go and put it in perspective.

You people are no fun.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:03 pm

Upper America wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:You make a good point, just allow me to correct one little thing: some people can go the abstinence route, most can't.

And because some people can, it's best to mention it in school. You'll reach out to those who can potentially stay abstinent. Teach abstinence along with safe sex, and you're keeping as many students sexually safe as possible.

No you aren't. Because the vast majority of those people aren't going to stick with it, those people cancel out the net amount of people who stick with it and DO benefit from it.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:04 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:I'm no scientist, but I think it is entirely possible to have sex without erotic asphyxiation.

Well, sure - if you want to be boring and pedestrian about it. Here I am sharing a brief bit of knowledge with a bunch of virgins and you gotta go and put it in perspective.

You people are no fun.

Don't worry. Deep down I think we are all into weird shit.

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why is it the responsibility of the state to control what people do?
the ultimate goal in life is to have children, to reproduce.
sexual reproduction strengthens the human race as a whole.

let parents teach their children right from wrong over the topic of reproduction
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Postby Upper America » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:06 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Upper America wrote:Who said anything about being human? I don't think being called a slut by all of your friends and family is gonna benefit you socially. Unless you like that kind of stuff.

Of course it isn't. The good part about this is that not every female is considered a slut by their friends. So yeah, as long as women remain human, they obtain the benefits of every human

Again, they won't obtain the social benefit of other people if they are called sluts. And what do you mean by "remaining human"?

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Upper America wrote:If I read it wrong, then please tell me how asking him to predict what you'll eat in 20 days is relevant? I'm not stupid, I can detect sarcasm when I see it.

It's relevant because he can't predict anything with 100% accuracy.

I mean, EVERY person here got that, except for you.

So, you were saying that he cannot say that he will remain abstinent, right?

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Upper America wrote:You'd have to be banging pretty hard for that to happen. Besides, erotic asphyxiation is rare, right?

Not sure. I've known a number of women who were into it, just with the "use your hand" part.

I'm terribly wary of using things like a belt, rope, etc, because it can harder to tell if your "release" is actually releasing the airway. The hand is more... responsive.

Oh... Well, I don't know much about that kind of stuff, and I'd prefer not to. Guess it's not really my position to say that it's rare.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:I'm no scientist, but I think it is entirely possible to have sex without erotic asphyxiation.

Well, sure - if you want to be boring and pedestrian about it. Here I am sharing a brief bit of knowledge with a bunch of virgins and you gotta go and put it in perspective.

You people are no fun.

(I really shouldn't, but here I go anyway.) There seems to be a remarkable correlation between being no fun and being a virgin. Amazing how that works. Well, at least they shall live forever.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:09 pm

Upper America wrote:Again, they won't obtain the social benefit of other people if they are called sluts.

Yes they will. Being called a "slut" has utterly no bearing on the overall effects of millions of people engaging in sex.
Upper America wrote:So, you were saying that he cannot say that he will remain abstinent, right?

No. Of course he can say that. And I can make fun of him stating that he's 100% certain as though he can see into the future.
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