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For or against

For
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Against
121
47%
Don't care
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2%
Wut?
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Capitol punishment for or against

Postby Heco » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:44 am

Are you for or against Capitol punishment
Capitol punishment is when the government can kill you for committing a crime also know as
Execution.
Are you for against or you don't know
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I am for as murder is the act of killing some one so you should die for it as you did kill now it's your turn to be killed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:46 am

Here's a handy link to the old thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=297088
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Postby Frazers » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:46 am

Heco wrote:Are you for or against Capitol punishment
Capitol punishment is when the government can kill you for committing a crime also know as
Execution.
Are you for against or you don't know
Post your option below

I am for as murder is the act of killing some one so you should die for it as you did kill now it's your turn to be killed.


and thus you should be killed for killing the person that killed.

Excellent basis and accompanying logic.

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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:47 am

Against.

Murder cannot be punished by murder it's an endless cycle. Lock them up in solitary for 30 years and they might regret their decisions more than if you just outright murder them.
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Postby Avenio » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:48 am

I think dropping the Capitol building on people as a punishment is a little extreme, and more importantly a massive waste of funds. Just think of how much money that we spend hoisting the building up with cranes and dropping the whole structure on White House interns who jam the printer? Surely we can find better ways of punishing people.

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Postby Heco » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:49 am

Frazers wrote:
Heco wrote:Are you for or against Capitol punishment
Capitol punishment is when the government can kill you for committing a crime also know as
Execution.
Are you for against or you don't know
Post your option below

I am for as murder is the act of killing some one so you should die for it as you did kill now it's your turn to be killed.


and thus you should be killed for killing the person that killed.

Excellent basis and accompanying logic.

Murder is illegal killing execution is legal
That's like saying "in war the soldiers kill people so they should all die" it was legal to do that their government allowed it.
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:51 am

Against. I don't think the state has the moral right to kill. It's also worse to rot in jail for life without parole.
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Postby Aurinsula » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:51 am

There's no evidence that the death penalty reduces crime or improves public law and order. In light of that, states should not put people to death, because there is always the possibility that someone is put to death wrongly.

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Postby Heco » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:51 am

Ucropi wrote:Against.

Murder cannot be punished by murder it's an endless cycle. Lock them up in solitary for 30 years and they might regret their decisions more than if you just outright murder them.

It would cost more to feed the cloth them and more instead of just putting a bullet in their head once convicted outside on a wooden post.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:53 am

Against.

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Postby Robor » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:54 am

I am for it, but not if the government is responsible for deciding who is innocent or guilty, as it is generally incompetent when doing anything else.
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Postby Basseemia » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:55 am

109% against. It's completely immoral for the government to kill it's own people. I live in Texas, the state who performs the most executions in the United States. There's also a large chance that they could be wrongly convicted, put on death row, and executed. That wouldn't be a nice thing now would it?
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:01 am

I am totally for it I just wish the exicution was less "Humaine" these bastards get what they deserve. And I also think more crimes like rape,child molestation,drug trafficking,Porn using where all punishable by bheadings or firing squads. Bring back the swords and the painful death these asses deserve.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:01 am

Avenio wrote:I think dropping the Capitol building on people as a punishment is a little extreme, and more importantly a massive waste of funds. Just think of how much money that we spend hoisting the building up with cranes and dropping the whole structure on White House interns who jam the printer? Surely we can find better ways of punishing people.

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Postby -Arabiyah- » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:03 am

Avenio wrote:I think dropping the Capitol building on people as a punishment is a little extreme, and more importantly a massive waste of funds. Just think of how much money that we spend hoisting the building up with cranes and dropping the whole structure on White House interns who jam the printer? Surely we can find better ways of punishing people.


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Postby Ucropi » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:05 am

Heco wrote:
Ucropi wrote:Against.

Murder cannot be punished by murder it's an endless cycle. Lock them up in solitary for 30 years and they might regret their decisions more than if you just outright murder them.

It would cost more to feed the cloth them and more instead of just putting a bullet in their head once convicted outside on a wooden post.

Well seeing as most places don't "[put] a bullet in their head" as capital punishment anyways.
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Postby Other Thafoo » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:05 am

Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:06 am

Against.

A life sentence w/out parole for people who commit first degree murder is much worse than just being put to death in my opinion.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:09 am

Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.


What is with you people and being Humane this is literally all you look at! It's really annoying these people can murder people and get a life sentance? What's the point it is more expensive to keep him/her alive providing Water,Food,Clothing and other life needs. Instead of just getting a scimitar and cutting off the head a day or even an hour after being found guilty and put it in public display so people will know what will happen. Fear and terror will stop crime.
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Postby Aurinsula » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:09 am

Well, it seems that we have a consensus here. Capital punishment - against!

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Postby Creamy pleasures » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:10 am

Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.

If killing someone costs more than feeding them and holding them for decades obviously someone is doing something wrong here...

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Postby Galloism » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:10 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.


What is with you people and being Humane this is literally all you look at! It's really annoying these people can murder people and get a life sentance? What's the point it is more expensive to keep him/her alive providing Water,Food,Clothing and other life needs. Instead of just getting a scimitar and cutting off the head a day or even an hour after being found guilty and put it in public display so people will know what will happen. Fear and terror will stop crime.

Dropping the Capitol building on people was a better idea than this one.
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Postby Other Thafoo » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:10 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.


What is with you people and being Humane this is literally all you look at! It's really annoying these people can murder people and get a life sentance? What's the point it is more expensive to keep him/her alive providing Water,Food,Clothing and other life needs. Instead of just getting a scimitar and cutting off the head a day or even an hour after being found guilty and put it in public display so people will know what will happen. Fear and terror will stop crime.

1. Fuck human rights, am I right?
2. The process of proving that the to-be-executed deserves execution and is truly guilty to the level of ending his life costs far more than a life sentence. You wouldn't want to kill someone innocent, would you?

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Postby -Arabiyah- » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:11 am

Creamy pleasures wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.

If killing someone costs more than feeding them and holding them for decades obviously someone is doing something wrong here...


Exactly what I just said.
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Postby Creamy pleasures » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:11 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Against. It's more expensive than a life sentence and it's inhumane.


What is with you people and being Humane this is literally all you look at! It's really annoying these people can murder people and get a life sentance? What's the point it is more expensive to keep him/her alive providing Water,Food,Clothing and other life needs. Instead of just getting a scimitar and cutting off the head a day or even an hour after being found guilty and put it in public display so people will know what will happen. Fear and terror will stop crime.

This is something I respect about Arabic countries, when it comes to punishing criminals you guys don't pussy foot around!

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