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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:53 pm
by The Sanguinian Islands
The Rich Port wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him


The religious have done the same thing for thousands of years.

Now, we suffer the consequences, among them having to listen to atheists try to fight back.

I don't think jesus was directly responsible for 9gag like dawkins was

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:58 pm
by Tuthina
The Rich Port wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him


The religious have done the same thing for thousands of years.

Now, we suffer the consequences, among them having to listen to atheists try to fight back.

You know, I would prefer atheists to not sink to the same depths of religious fanatics. If anything, it probably won't help our their cause of waning people from blind beliefs

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:59 pm
by The Rich Port
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The religious have done the same thing for thousands of years.

Now, we suffer the consequences, among them having to listen to atheists try to fight back.

I don't think jesus was directly responsible for 9gag like dawkins was


By extension, he is, though I don't blame him.

If religion didn't exist, neither would atheism.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:59 pm
by The Sanguinian Islands
Tuthina wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The religious have done the same thing for thousands of years.

Now, we suffer the consequences, among them having to listen to atheists try to fight back.

You know, I would prefer atheists to not sink to the same depths of religious fanatics. If anything, it probably won't help our their cause of waning people from blind beliefs

600s:

"the pagan is blind praise mohammed"

now:

"the christfag is blind praise the whale noises guy"

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:00 pm
by The Sanguinian Islands
The Rich Port wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:I don't think jesus was directly responsible for 9gag like dawkins was


By extension, he is, though I don't blame him.

If religion didn't exist, neither would atheism.

But it does

and its perfectly fine to be athiest

just not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA0OOEo0k2k

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:01 pm
by The Rich Port
Tuthina wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The religious have done the same thing for thousands of years.

Now, we suffer the consequences, among them having to listen to atheists try to fight back.

You know, I would prefer atheists to not sink to the same depths of religious fanatics. If anything, it probably won't help our their cause of waning people from blind beliefs


I'm afraid they think they don't have a choice.

The religious are still doing it.

And, frankly, I don't think there can be such a thing as an atheistic fanatic.

An anti-theistic fanatic, sure.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:02 pm
by The Sanguinian Islands
The Rich Port wrote:
Tuthina wrote:You know, I would prefer atheists to not sink to the same depths of religious fanatics. If anything, it probably won't help our their cause of waning people from blind beliefs


I'm afraid they think they don't have a choice.

The religious are still doing it.

And, frankly, I don't think there can be such a thing as an atheistic fanatic.

An anti-theistic fanatic, sure.


ahem

TheAmazingAthiest

Atheism plus

Richard Dawkins

Carl Sagan

Bill Nye (love his show tho)

r/athiesm

the guy i linked you to

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:04 pm
by Greater Beggnig
The Rich Port wrote:
Greater Beggnig wrote:
If I weren't a heterosexual male, I would ask you to marry me.


Titties are atheism. :lol: I'm a somewhat hetero male myself, but I think we could work something out. I would in no way look feminine enough to pass off as female. How about you?


How does one respond to such a question?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:04 pm
by Tuthina
The Rich Port wrote:
Tuthina wrote:You know, I would prefer atheists to not sink to the same depths of religious fanatics. If anything, it probably won't help our their cause of waning people from blind beliefs


I'm afraid they think they don't have a choice.

The religious are still doing it.

And, frankly, I don't think there can be such a thing as an atheistic fanatic.

An anti-theistic fanatic, sure.

True, I blame common speech corrupting concepts. :p

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:06 pm
by The Rich Port
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I'm afraid they think they don't have a choice.

The religious are still doing it.

And, frankly, I don't think there can be such a thing as an atheistic fanatic.

An anti-theistic fanatic, sure.


ahem

TheAmazingAthiest

Atheism plus

Richard Dawkins

Carl Sagan

Bill Nye (love his show tho)

r/athiesm

the guy i linked you to


You consider them fanatics? Seriously? Considering all of the horrible things done in the name of theism?

All they've done is defend atheism and, in some cases, only science and the method.

And, frankly, I don't care.

It's a reaction to theistic domination, which has been around for fucking forever.

It's about time someone tried to curb it.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:09 pm
by Tuthina
All things considered, Carl Sagan is pretty moderate when it comes to atheism. Also, subreddits are bad sources. Ever.

And rather than curbing them, personally I would like to be left alone, as do many other people from my homeland, probably. Then again, our government is doing a decent job curbing Catholics anyway. :p

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:11 pm
by The Rich Port
Greater Beggnig wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Titties are atheism. :lol: I'm a somewhat hetero male myself, but I think we could work something out. I would in no way look feminine enough to pass off as female. How about you?


How does one respond to such a question?


By sending me your phone number if you are that cute. And a selfie. :D

Nah, it'd never work out. Long distance relationships never do.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:20 pm
by Threlizdun
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him
You are aware he popularized the concept of memes as a biological and cultural phenomenon and wasn't responsible for actually creating memes right?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:22 pm
by Arumdaum
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I'm afraid they think they don't have a choice.

The religious are still doing it.

And, frankly, I don't think there can be such a thing as an atheistic fanatic.

An anti-theistic fanatic, sure.


ahem

TheAmazingAthiest

Atheism plus

Richard Dawkins

Carl Sagan

Bill Nye (love his show tho)

r/athiesm

the guy i linked you to

do they kill/torture people

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:25 pm
by Tuthina
Arumdaum wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
ahem

TheAmazingAthiest

Atheism plus

Richard Dawkins

Carl Sagan

Bill Nye (love his show tho)

r/athiesm

the guy i linked you to

do they kill/torture people

I think we all agree r/atheism counts as torture, like many subreddits. :p
Carl Sagan and Bill Nye are way cool though.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:14 am
by Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms
As an atheist: Atheism+ needs to go die in a hole, because they really are fanatical (at least in that SJW kind of way).

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:26 am
by Mavorpen
Threlizdun wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him
You are aware he popularized the concept of memes as a biological and cultural phenomenon and wasn't responsible for actually creating memes right?

People will seriously make up ANYTHING to try to paint atheists as being as bad as religious fanatics.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:50 am
by The raptors that eascaped jurassic park
Mavorpen wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:You are aware he popularized the concept of memes as a biological and cultural phenomenon and wasn't responsible for actually creating memes right?

People will seriously make up ANYTHING to try to paint atheists as being as bad as religious fanatics.

Don't question peoples actions. I learned that after I heard people actually follow stupid cults like Scientology... :?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:03 am
by Camicon
Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:As an atheist: Atheism+ needs to go die in a hole, because they really are fanatical (at least in that SJW kind of way).

Clarify.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:05 am
by Geilinor
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him

I've never seen an atheist proselytizer in my life. Meanwhile, I had Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door and preach to me for over 10 minutes last weekend.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:10 pm
by Tarsonis Survivors
Geilinor wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him

I've never seen an atheist proselytizer in my life. Meanwhile, I had Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door and preach to me for over 10 minutes last weekend.


This is a very narrow view proselytizing. Richard Dawkins' book T"he God Delusion" is a form of Proselytization. As a whole, Atheists proselytize as much as Theists, if only to justify their own lack of faith.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:14 pm
by The Sanguinian Islands
Threlizdun wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him
You are aware he popularized the concept of memes as a biological and cultural phenomenon and wasn't responsible for actually creating memes right?

Aren't you a brony

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:25 pm
by Ashmoria
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:Why are atheists worse in preaching than mormons?

Everywhere i go on campus
"GOD ISNT REAL DONT BELIEVE LIES also take our book the god delusion"

seriously the same guy who wrote that book popularized the concept of the meme, i dislike him

you mean strangers accost you with tales of how atheism changed their lives?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:27 pm
by Camicon
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:You are aware he popularized the concept of memes as a biological and cultural phenomenon and wasn't responsible for actually creating memes right?

Aren't you a brony

And that has to do what with anything?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:52 pm
by Christiaanistan
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I've never seen an atheist proselytizer in my life. Meanwhile, I had Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door and preach to me for over 10 minutes last weekend.


This is a very narrow view proselytizing. Richard Dawkins' book T"he God Delusion" is a form of Proselytization. As a whole, Atheists proselytize as much as Theists, if only to justify their own lack of faith.
Okay, so a harmless putz in the UK publishes a book talking doo-doo about theism. Really, although I acknowledge that Dawkins is a schlump (I love my Yiddish loan-words), The God Delusion ain't bupkes compared with the shelves full of religious literature out there.

The problem that atheists face is that it's really very difficult to talk about it at all without insulting somebody. The entire basis of atheism is that religious, particularly theistic, beliefs are fantasies. Even though it's accurate, it's really hard to avoid the fact that it makes people angry.

That's one reason that I usually identify myself as a "secular humanist" because it makes a positive statement. It makes a statement that I think that human beings are really responsible for any good that might have come of religion. I think that human compassion is behind charitable giving associated with religion. I think that human kindness is really at the heart of all proactively moral human behavior. When I take the credit away from a deity or supernatural force, that gives me hope that human beings are really capable of being a great bunch if we would just get our act together.

Secular humanism isn't me saying, "God is stupid," but it's me saying, "God came from the minds of human beings." It's really a high compliment to the human race to say that we are capable of imagining such a complex and interesting set of concepts. I am continually amazed, the more I read about the world's religions and their historical roots, just how powerful and amazing human creativity really is. Human creativity has created beautiful and majestic temples, grand mosques, vast cathedrals, and many wonderful, incredible things.

Some people say, "How could you look at these things and not think that there is a God?" but I, the secular humanist, say, "How could you look at these things and not just love people? How could you not love them to pieces?" When I really look at the world the human race has created, I realize that I really love the crazy bastards. I want to listen to every note of their music and taste everything that they cook. I want to see everything that they create. I cannot imagine something about them not being worth my time.

Really, I think that genuine, old-school, intellectually driven secular humanists are still somewhat rare. We are an eccentric bunch, even among atheists.