What are your political beliefs?

[Kumuri]

SOME of what Trotsky said (world revolution, etc) is stuff that I agree with.

I don't mean to nitpick, but is world revolution necessarily a Trotskyist idea? I thought it was something all Marxists agreed on.

[Arglorand]

SOME of what Trotsky said (world revolution, etc) is stuff that I agree with.

I don't mean to nitpick, but is world revolution necessarily a Trotskyist idea? I thought it was something all Marxists agreed on.

Not all, but no, it's not just a Trotskyist idea.

[The Republic of Gardium]

I put conservative and libertarian. Economically, hard right. Socially, I call myself a libertarian. I believe in a noninterventionist foreign policy, place that wherever you want it.

[Lalaki]

I'm basically a moderate American progressive. I believe in military non-interventionism, universalism, an expanded welfare system, etc.

[Threlizdun]

And most use the word incorrectly. The proper term to refer to a stateless society is simply "stateless society", not "anarchy".
Alone it doesn't, though within the context of the conversation it was meant to refer to collectivist anarchism, which advocates abolition of private property and the market but maintains currency as labor notes that are exchanged for resources.

Trotskyism is not compatable with libertarian interpretations of Marxism and most certainly isn't compatable with anarchism. Trotsky slaughtered political opponents en masse. He crushed the independent communes, strikers, and Russian and Ukrainian anarchists. The man was a monster. Leninism is an authoritarian ideology that cannot be reconciled with libertarian traditions.
No, all socialist societies were socialist; state capitalist societies were state capitalist. All human societies were socialist throughout the vast majority of our existence. There has never been a point in human history that socialism hasn't existed. Small communes always have existed and large scale societies such as Anarchist Catalonia and the Ukrainian Free Territory functioned relatively well prior to losing in the Spanish Civil War and Russian Civil War respectively. It isn't hard to find modern communes, and there are even larger corporate entities such as the Mondragon Corporation that operate on a basis of worker ownership. Real life examples of socialism put into practice exist all around you. More often than not they don't even realize they are operating on a socialist model.

I am NOT a Leninist. I am NOT a Trotskyist either. I AM a libertarian Marxist. SOME of what Trotsky said (world revolution, etc) is stuff that I agree with.

I am aware you are not a Leninist; I was simply advising against adopting sympathies for Trotskyist currents. World revolution is an ideal found in many socialist ideologies, so there is no reason to look to Trotsky for such "contributions" as he was far from the first to offer such a viewpoint.

I put conservative and libertarian. Economically, hard right. Socially, I call myself a libertarian. I believe in a noninterventionist foreign policy, place that wherever you want it.

"Classical liberal" is term you are most likely looking for.

[Lemanrussland]

I'm a liberal, in the sense that I think liberty is a good thing and that maximizing liberty for everyone should be the moral goal of public policy.

In my opinion, in order to have liberty, people need to have two basic things -- freedom from coercion, and agency (the ability or opportunity to do things). In order to ensure people have agency and freedom from coercion, some freedoms need to be curtailed.

Actions which coerce or harm others, both directly and indirectly, have to be restricted or regulated. Your freedom to swing your fist (or to pollute the air) ends where my nose begins. In order to have agency, people need economic opportunity and social mobility. Social mobility and economic opportunity are guaranteed through social policy (first and foremost, through the provision of primary education and healthcare). Taxation is needed to finance the services required to provide protection from harm (from external aggressors through defense, and internal ones through the justice system), and to guarantee social mobility.

A secondary task of government should be to provide a framework for free economic transactions and to ensure a competitive, orderly, and efficient allocation of resources. Provision of infrastructure and other public goods, property rights, legal liability, freedom of contract, contract enforcement, a stable financial/monetary system, and competition law (to name a few things) are needed for this purpose. Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't for a modern state. Even countries often considered to be very market oriented like Hong Kong follow this principle. (there it was called positive non-interventionism, where the state provides a framework for economic decision making rather than directing it or making the decisions itself).

Lastly, there needs to be a means to control the institutions needed to fulfill this mission. I favor a representative, liberal democracy, in which the people exercise control over their government, while individual rights are protected through constitutional safeguards, the rule of law, and a system of checks and balances.

[The Republic of Gardium]

I put conservative and libertarian. Economically, hard right. Socially, I call myself a libertarian. I believe in a noninterventionist foreign policy, place that wherever you want it.

"Classical liberal" is term you are most likely looking for.[/quote]
Yes. That pretty much sums it up.

[Atlanticatia]

I'm a liberal, in the sense that I think liberty is a good thing and that maximizing liberty for everyone should be the moral goal of public policy.

In my opinion, in order to have liberty, people need to have two basic things -- freedom from coercion, and agency (the ability or opportunity to do things). In order to ensure people have agency and freedom from coercion, some freedoms need to be curtailed.

Actions which coerce or harm others, both directly and indirectly, have to be restricted or regulated. Your freedom to swing your fist (or to pollute the air) ends where my nose begins. In order to have agency, people need economic opportunity and social mobility. Social mobility and economic opportunity are guaranteed through social policy (first and foremost, through the provision of primary education and healthcare). Taxation is needed to finance the services required to provide protection from harm (from external aggressors through defense, and internal ones through the justice system), and to guarantee social mobility.

A secondary task of government should be to provide a framework for free economic transactions and to ensure a competitive, orderly, and efficient allocation of resources. Provision of infrastructure and other public goods, property rights, legal liability, freedom of contract, contract enforcement, a stable financial/monetary system, and competition law (to name a few things) are needed for this purpose. Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't for a modern state. Even countries often considered to be very market oriented like Hong Kong follow this principle. (there it was called positive non-interventionism, where the state provides a framework for economic decision making rather than directing it or making the decisions itself).

Lastly, there needs to be a means to control the institutions needed to fulfill this mission. I favor a representative, liberal democracy, in which the people exercise control over their government, while individual rights are protected through constitutional safeguards, the rule of law, and a system of checks and balances.

^Pretty much this.

[Great Kleomentia]

I would love nothing more than a eternal anarcho-communist utopia where everyone is equal. However that's just wishful thinking. So my actual political belief falls into Capitalist Monarchism.

[Aurulie]

Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Anti-War, Anti-Death Penalty, Anti-Affirmative Action, Anti-Drug, Anti-Illegal immigrant, Pro Separation of Church and State, Pro-Science and Environment and Anti-Gay Far Right Conservative. Republicans may be horrible but they're better than Democrats.

[The Scientific States]

Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Anti-War, Anti-Death Penalty, Anti-Affirmative Action, Anti-Drug, Anti-Illegal immigrant, Pro Separation of Church and State, Pro-Science and Environment and Anti-Gay Far Right Conservative. Republicans may be horrible but they're better than Democrats.

You claim to be pro science, but given your beliefs that seems to not be the case.

[Aurulie]

Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Anti-War, Anti-Death Penalty, Anti-Affirmative Action, Anti-Drug, Anti-Illegal immigrant, Pro Separation of Church and State, Pro-Science and Environment and Anti-Gay Far Right Conservative. Republicans may be horrible but they're better than Democrats.

You claim to be pro science, but given your beliefs that seems to not be the case.

I'm for more spending for things like NASA, NOAA, and STEM. Just because I don't think two people of the same sex together doesn't mean I don't value science.

[-Arabiyah-]

Islamism

[Othelos]

You claim to be pro science, but given your beliefs that seems to not be the case.

I'm for more spending for things like NASA, NOAA, and STEM. Just because I don't think two people of the same sex together doesn't mean I don't value science.

what's wrong with someone being in a homosexual relationship?

They aren't hurting anyone.

[The Rebel Alliances]

I am a Southern Nationalist in ideology. On standard politics, I am quite centrist. Economically I am pretty far right, socially more to the left. Internationally, I am keep to ourselves. I desire my state and Region to secede from the US. A view quite different than most. But I think it is slowly growing. I am firm about the separation being gradual and peaceful. And to use established institutions to advocate it. Been southern nationalist for three years now. And I am quite the moderate in the organization. Like any other we have a lunatic fringe, who advocate any means necessary. No one really pays them any attention. Then another minority who simply want a wait it out approach. On economics, I believe in the free market. Perhaps too much so, when I needed and was qualified to take government assistance, I did not. Instead seeking aid from family and my church. To get by until I landed myself a job, and then payed my debts back. I am fairly liberal in social issues. Anti death penalty, pro LGBT, Pro marriage equality ext.

[Aurulie]

I'm for more spending for things like NASA, NOAA, and STEM. Just because I don't think two people of the same sex together doesn't mean I don't value science.

what's wrong with someone being in a homosexual relationship?

They aren't hurting anyone.

Not this again... I find homosexuals immoral and that' my belief.

[Othelos]

what's wrong with someone being in a homosexual relationship?

They aren't hurting anyone.

Not this again... I find homosexuals immoral and that' my belief.

why? homosexuals aren't hurting anyone.

[Aurulie]

I am a Southern Nationalist in ideology. On standard politics, I am quite centrist. Economically I am pretty far right, socially more to the left. Internationally, I am keep to ourselves. I desire my state and Region to secede from the US. A view quite different than most. But I think it is slowly growing. I am firm about the separation being gradual and peaceful. And to use established institutions to advocate it. Been southern nationalist for three years now. And I am quite the moderate in the organization. Like any other we have a lunatic fringe, who advocate any means necessary. No one really pays them any attention. Then another minority who simply want a wait it out approach. On economics, I believe in the free market. Perhaps too much so, when I needed and was qualified to take government assistance, I did not. Instead seeking aid from family and my church. To get by until I landed myself a job, and then payed my debts back. I am fairly liberal in social issues. Anti death penalty, pro LGBT, Pro marriage equality ext.

I'm from the South and I'm here to tell you succession from the Union will be the death of us economically.

[Aurulie]

Not this again... I find homosexuals immoral and that' my belief.

why? homosexuals aren't hurting anyone.

Look, I just don't like them and I don't know why. But let them "marry".

[Othelos]

why? homosexuals aren't hurting anyone.

Look, I just don't like them and I don't know why. But this isn't important. Bitte.

Nah, it is kind of important. Denial of equal rights 'because i don't like you' is a really bad and immature reason.

[The Rebel Alliances]

I am a Southern Nationalist in ideology. On standard politics, I am quite centrist. Economically I am pretty far right, socially more to the left. Internationally, I am keep to ourselves. I desire my state and Region to secede from the US. A view quite different than most. But I think it is slowly growing. I am firm about the separation being gradual and peaceful. And to use established institutions to advocate it. Been southern nationalist for three years now. And I am quite the moderate in the organization. Like any other we have a lunatic fringe, who advocate any means necessary. No one really pays them any attention. Then another minority who simply want a wait it out approach. On economics, I believe in the free market. Perhaps too much so, when I needed and was qualified to take government assistance, I did not. Instead seeking aid from family and my church. To get by until I landed myself a job, and then payed my debts back. I am fairly liberal in social issues. Anti death penalty, pro LGBT, Pro marriage equality ext.

I'm from the South and I'm here to tell you succession from the Union will be the death of us economically.

I respectfully disagree. Although this is a common mindset. Take just Louisiana for example, overall a poor state in comparison to the rest of the US. Louisiana sits on the Gulf Coast, and controls the Mississippi River. Now, as is, all trade moves into that river, and money and trades of goods and services enter into Louisiana, and is taken by DC and spread out across the expanse of the nation. Now, if independent, any and all goods, profits and services moving in, stays in Louisiana. To benefit Louisiana. The port of New Orleans is one of the busiest on the North American Continent, also, Louisiana has a population of less than 5 million, a highly sustainable and manageable population, where you would not need the worlds largest economy to support.

Regardless, while their are risks in seeking separation, there are rewards as well if done the right way.

[Great Kleomentia]

why? homosexuals aren't hurting anyone.

Look, I just don't like them and I don't know why. But let them "marry".

I don't like a lot of kinds of people, but it doesn't bother me they have sexual intercourse or have the lawful right to marry. Its idiocy to deny someone a personal freedom just cuz.

[Aurulie]

Look, I just don't like them and I don't know why. But this isn't important. Bitte.

Nah, it is kind of important. Denial of equal rights 'because i don't like you' is a really bad and immature reason.

I'm for gay marriage but I'd prefer them to leave the planet.

[Othelos]

I'm from the South and I'm here to tell you succession from the Union will be the death of us economically.

I respectfully disagree. Although this is a common mindset. Take just Louisiana for example, overall a poor state in comparison to the rest of the US. Louisiana sits on the Gulf Coast, and controls the Mississippi River. Now, as is, all trade moves into that river, and money and trades of goods and services enter into Louisiana, and is taken by DC and spread out across the expanse of the nation. Now, if independent, any and all goods, profits and services moving in, stays in Louisiana. To benefit Louisiana. The port of New Orleans is one of the busiest on the North American Continent, also, Louisiana has a population of less than 5 million, a highly sustainable and manageable population, where you would not need the worlds largest economy to support.

Regardless, while their are risks in seeking separation, there are rewards as well if done the right way.

why would you want to separate from the US?

[Othelos]

Nah, it is kind of important. Denial of equal rights 'because i don't like you' is a really bad and immature reason.

I'm for gay marriage but I'd prefer them to leave the planet.

Too bad. We're here to stay.