Christian Discussion Thread IV

[Benuty]

I sincerely doubt that. Those with the ability to hold power should respectively, and cautiously.

Well yes. That's a given.

Which is unfortunate since it should be the standard.

[Benuty]

I sincerely doubt that. Those with the ability to hold power should respectively, and cautiously.

Machiaveli once said "If once must choose, It is better to be feared, than loved" or something to that effect.

Until you get a knife in your back like Caligula.

[Kiruri]

Indeed. And those with the power, in my opinion, should wield it.

I sincerely doubt that. Those with the ability to hold power should respectively, and cautiously.

Where's the fun in that? Why couldn't someone with power, whatever that power may be, be able to use it to his/her/its liking, regardless of the consequences of his actions?

[Benuty]

I sincerely doubt that. Those with the ability to hold power should respectively, and cautiously.

Where's the fun in that? Why couldn't someone with power, whatever that power may be, be able to use it to his/her/its liking, regardless of the consequences of his actions?

The reality begs to differ.

Besides do you really want psychotics running things?

I mean they already control several nations, and the US congress (along with several positions in the US Supreme Court).

[Distruzio]

I sincerely doubt that. Those with the ability to hold power should respectively, and cautiously.

Where's the fun in that? Why couldn't someone with power, whatever that power may be, be able to use it to his/her/its liking, regardless of the consequences of his actions?

The person with powers has an obligation to those who make their power and influence possible. That means they bare a personal responsibility to the community over which they rule.

[Kiruri]

Where's the fun in that? Why couldn't someone with power, whatever that power may be, be able to use it to his/her/its liking, regardless of the consequences of his actions?

The person with powers has an obligation to those who make their power and influence possible. That means they bare a personal responsibility to the community over which they rule.

That sounds like democracy :/

Where's the fun in that? Why couldn't someone with power, whatever that power may be, be able to use it to his/her/its liking, regardless of the consequences of his actions?

The reality begs to differ.

Besides do you really want psychotics running things?

I mean they already control several nations, and the US congress (along with several positions in the US Supreme Court).

Well, I suppose absolute power's not really possible, but if absolute power was possible, I think that whoever wields that power should be able to do whatever he/she likes.

[Distruzio]

The person with powers has an obligation to those who make their power and influence possible. That means they bare a personal responsibility to the community over which they rule.

That sounds like democracy :/

Factually incorrect. It sounds like integralist regimes such as monarchies an consociationalist democracies. Well... that's what I had in mind.

[Kiruri]

That sounds like democracy :/

Factually incorrect. It sounds like integralist regimes such as monarchies an consociationalist democracies. Well... that's what I had in mind.

I had gathered power of the people from that

[Distruzio]

Factually incorrect. It sounds like integralist regimes such as monarchies an consociationalist democracies. Well... that's what I had in mind.

I had gathered power of the people from that

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I had gathered power of the people from that

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

[Conscentia]

I had gathered power of the people from that

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

But who will rule the people do the ruling?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

But who will rule the people do the ruling?

A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned.

[Distruzio]

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

But who will rule the people do the ruling?

Ideally, faith and tradition will reign them in. Practically, it will be the fear of the uneducated masses.

[Benuty]

But who will rule the people do the ruling?

Ideally, faith and tradition will reign them in. Practically, it will be the fear of the uneducated masses.

Why is it they have to be uneducated?

[Distruzio]

Ideally, faith and tradition will reign them in. Practically, it will be the fear of the uneducated masses.

Why is it they have to be uneducated?

Are we assuming a nation filled with the ideal informed voter or are we assuming a nation filled with the likely citizen - ill informed and politically uneducated?

[Alyekra]

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

Because goodness knows that's what Jesus did.

[Distruzio]

No. The "people" need to be ruled. Not led.

Because goodness knows that's what Jesus did.

Actually, it is. He just made it a matter of fact rather rather than playing politics.

[Alyekra]

Because goodness knows that's what Jesus did.

Actually, it is. He just made it a matter of fact rather rather than playing politics.

He sure had a funny way of getting around to it.

[Distruzio]

Actually, it is. He just made it a matter of fact rather rather than playing politics.

He sure had a funny way of getting around to it.

How do you mean?

[Alyekra]

He sure had a funny way of getting around to it.

How do you mean?

Well if he wanted to rule people, I'd think not being a ruler was a weird way to do it.

Also, This.

[Distruzio]

How do you mean?

Well if he wanted to rule people, I'd think not being a ruler was a weird way to do it.

Also, This.

Indeed. That's the very same verse I was thinking of when I wrote, "He just made it a matter of fact...".

A King is a servant of the people.

[Alyekra]

Well if he wanted to rule people, I'd think not being a ruler was a weird way to do it.

Also, This.

Indeed. That's the very same verse I was thinking of when I wrote, "He just made it a matter of fact...".

A King is a servant of the people.

That is patently untrue.

[Distruzio]

Indeed. That's the very same verse I was thinking of when I wrote, "He just made it a matter of fact...".

A King is a servant of the people.

That is patently untrue.

Nonsense. Hogwash. Absolute bumbledorf.

[Menassa]

That is patently untrue.

Nonsense. Hogwash. Absolute bumbledorf.

Doesn't Jesus also talk about his Kingdom and what not?

[Distruzio]

Nonsense. Hogwash. Absolute bumbledorf.

Doesn't Jesus also talk about his Kingdom and what not?

We won't mention that. It's inconvenient.