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[Russianon]

No, forget we all how Mandela started a paramilitary organization and then integrated it into the government.

Now please, can we stop using the word 'terrorist'? It's lost all neutral meaning.

what is the proper word for people who commit massacres then

zionist

[Byzantine Balkan Federation]

Very intersesting video no "racists" quoted!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqddtVb-AQ

[Tmutarakhan]

They're responsible for those they killed personally. The Palestinians were killing Jews well before the Germans got into it.

and israel was electing terrorists before the palestinians even had elections.

The Palestinians had elections for a national council under the British Mandate in 1920. Amin al-Husseini's Majlissiyun party ("the coalition", more or less) won handily with its simple and catchy campaign slogan <i>Itbach al-Yahud!</i> "Exterminate the Jew!"

[Byzantine Balkan Federation]

and israel was electing terrorists before the palestinians even had elections.

The Palestinians had elections for a national council under the British Mandate in 1920. Amin al-Husseini's Majlissiyun party ("the coalition", more or less) won handily with its simple and catchy campaign slogan <i>Itbach al-Yahud!</i> "Exterminate the Jew!"

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

[Gauthier]

The Palestinians had elections for a national council under the British Mandate in 1920. Amin al-Husseini's Majlissiyun party ("the coalition", more or less) won handily with its simple and catchy campaign slogan <i>Itbach al-Yahud!</i> "Exterminate the Jew!"

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

The one Israeli Prime Minister who worked closely with the Palestinians? Executed as a traitor.

[Angleter]

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

The one Israeli Prime Minister who worked closely with the Palestinians? Executed as a traitor.

Or alternatively, assassinated by a terrorist.

[The Jonathanian States]

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

The one Israeli Prime Minister who worked closely with the Palestinians? Executed as a traitor.

With the man who did it landing in Prison, you know....
EDIT: Assuming we are talking about Rabin here.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Oh god I best this thread is a mess.

[Gauthier]

The one Israeli Prime Minister who worked closely with the Palestinians? Executed as a traitor.

With the man who did it landing in Prison, you know....
EDIT: Assuming we are talking about Rabin here.

And still praised for doing it.

http://samsonblinded.org/blog/an-evil-jew-yigal-amir-or-yitzhak-rabin.htm

[Herskerstad]

what is the proper word for people who commit massacres then

zionist

I did not know IS stood for 'Israeli State' then.

Still, a one state solution for the middle east to be run by Israel would improve things dramatically, admittedly.

[Angleter]

With the man who did it landing in Prison, you know....
EDIT: Assuming we are talking about Rabin here.

And still praised for doing it.

http://samsonblinded.org/blog/an-evil-jew-yigal-amir-or-yitzhak-rabin.htm

Ah, well if a blog praises him, then clearly Israeli society is in love with the man.

I'm also fully aware that the blog purports to be written under a pseudonym (to avoid Israeli censorship laws) by a 'veteran Israeli politician'. But then Googling 'who is Obadiah Shoher' overwhelmingly brings up a deluge of extremely similar spam, just so happening to be from around when 'Shoher' (self-)published a book, on all sorts of internet forums asking who he is, and Googling his name transliterated into Hebrew (עובדיה שוחר) brings up even less than that. All of that, and the fact that whoever's behind it obviously tried to create their own Wikipedia article in 2006 as well, suggests this is a lone nutter who's not even representative of the Israeli extreme-right.

[Tmutarakhan]

The Palestinians had elections for a national council under the British Mandate in 1920. Amin al-Husseini's Majlissiyun party ("the coalition", more or less) won handily with its simple and catchy campaign slogan <i>Itbach al-Yahud!</i> "Exterminate the Jew!"

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but he has never advocated extermination. And anyhow, I was responding to the usual false narrative "they started it!" from the pro-Palestinian side. I do not think "who started it?" is necessarily the most useful question to be asking, but the history is that the Palestinians started the violence, and the exterminationist rhetoric, and I will always correct the record when the opposite is claimed.

[Byzantine Balkan Federation]

zionist

I did not know IS stood for 'Israeli State' then.

Still, a one state solution for the middle east to be run by Israel would improve things dramatically, admittedly.

Islamic State = Israel

[Byzantine Balkan Federation]

Same thing with Natenyahoo, Kill the Palestinians! And the People loves it

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but he has never advocated extermination. And anyhow, I was responding to the usual false narrative "they started it!" from the pro-Palestinian side. I do not think "who started it?" is necessarily the most useful question to be asking, but the history is that the Palestinians started the violence, and the exterminationist rhetoric, and I will always correct the record when the opposite is claimed.

Only a person with a quarter of a brain advocates extermination. If Natanyahoo owns a quarter of a brain, then he wouldn't obviously advocate extermination.

To answer your question about the Palestinians' claim to be attacked first:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Dawayima_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing ... estine_war

[The Jonathanian States]

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but he has never advocated extermination. And anyhow, I was responding to the usual false narrative "they started it!" from the pro-Palestinian side. I do not think "who started it?" is necessarily the most useful question to be asking, but the history is that the Palestinians started the violence, and the exterminationist rhetoric, and I will always correct the record when the opposite is claimed.

Only a person with a quarter of a brain advocates extermination. If Natanyahoo owns a quarter of a brain, then he wouldn't obviously advocate extermination.

To answer your question about the Palestinians' claim to be attacked first:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Dawayima_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing ... estine_war

Well....
(First of all, and for the record, I don't condone any of those massacres EDIT: In fact, I condemn massacres of that kind from both sides). That having been said, they hardly are being attacked first in those examples. EDIT:( I want to clear myself up. They may have been in those Micro-Incidents. Though by and large, it took place during a conflict for which these two incidents aren't the triggers)./EDIT To be specific:
Deir Yassin takes place during the Siege of Jerusalem. That means conflict is stated as being active and ongoing in that same article. The second already takes place during the Arab-Israeli War, again, not proof for Israel having attacked first. The last is a long list which also talks about background, and honestly, the list isn't who was attacked first, and you'll have to point me to specifics if you want specifics.

That having aside, those first two specific incidents take place either during the proper Arab-Israeli war, or during the preceding Civil War of the British Mandate '47-'48.
And, seeing as you use wikipedia, I'll use it as well:
According to the article on the Civil War in the Mandate, the first casualties were Jews....

The first casualties after the adoption of Resolution 181(II) by the General Assembly were passengers on a Jewish bus driving on the Coastal Plain near Kfar Sirkin on 30 November. An eight-man gang from Jaffa ambushed the bus killing five and wounding others. Half an hour later they ambushed a second bus, southbound from Hadera, killing two more. At other places, Arab snipers skirmished Jewish buses in Jerusalem and Haifa.

I did not know IS stood for 'Israeli State' then.

Still, a one state solution for the middle east to be run by Israel would improve things dramatically, admittedly.

Islamic State = Israel

Really? Yeah, no.

[Herskerstad]

I did not know IS stood for 'Israeli State' then.

Still, a one state solution for the middle east to be run by Israel would improve things dramatically, admittedly.

Islamic State = Israel

Apple = B17 Flying Fortress

[Skappola]

Israel just announced that's it will seize 400 acres in West Bank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd1JvGC ... 0OQlHhkgfz

[Disgusting Ones]

Here me. Israel will not last a hundred years. Death to Israel.

[Calimera II]

Here me. Israel will not last a hundred years. Death to Israel.

Israel will last forever.

[Parti Ouvrier]

zionist

I did not know IS stood for 'Israeli State' then.

Still, a one state solution for the middle east to be run by Israel would improve things dramatically, admittedly.

Overlooking the right to self determination aren't we. Not that I would simply advocate a one state solution for Palestine [only] either and nor would the writer of this article.
https://kanaanonline.org//articles/01592.pdf

[Benuty]

Here me. Israel will not last a hundred years. Death to Israel.

Do you mean "hear"?

[Parti Ouvrier]

Here me. Israel will not last a hundred years. Death to Israel.

Israel will last forever.

A colonialist regime will forever have peace. (sarcasm).

[Parti Ouvrier]

Very intersesting video no "racists" quoted!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqddtVb-AQ

Thanks, this is useful information by the way.
http://www.btselem.org/
http://www.alternativenews.org/english/

And the open secret.
http://fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm

[Tmutarakhan]

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but he has never advocated extermination. And anyhow, I was responding to the usual false narrative "they started it!" from the pro-Palestinian side. I do not think "who started it?" is necessarily the most useful question to be asking, but the history is that the Palestinians started the violence, and the exterminationist rhetoric, and I will always correct the record when the opposite is claimed.

Only a person with a quarter of a brain advocates extermination. If Natanyahoo owns a quarter of a brain, then he wouldn't obviously advocate extermination.

To answer your question about the Palestinians' claim to be attacked first:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Dawayima_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing ... estine_war

Your examples are 28 years after the Palestinians began the systematic violence and exterminationist policy, and nearly a century after the sporadic violence started.

[Dragomerian Islands]

Israel just announced that's it will seize 400 acres in West Bank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd1JvGC ... 0OQlHhkgfz

I made a map to help the Israelis know what land belongs to them:

RED=Israel
BLUE=NOT ISRAEL