by Alexanda » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:06 am
by Frazers » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:11 am
by Pandeeria » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:13 am
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Upper America » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:13 am
by Threlizdun » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:15 am
by Shilya » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:19 am
by Alexanda » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:21 am
Shilya wrote:I like the idea, but never went to any school that has them.
Aside from the more obvious group dynamic reasons, there's another point to it: It drives home that school isn't your happy funtime place, it's a somewhat professional environment where you're expected to do stuff even if you dislike it. In a sense, school is your work.
Oh, and it also protects younger children from their parents stupid decisions.
If you want to express yourself, you can do so in your spare time, or through more subtle means. But you go to school to learn, not to show off yourself.
by Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:23 am
by Threlizdun » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:23 am
Shilya wrote:I like the idea, but never went to any school that has them.
Aside from the more obvious group dynamic reasons, there's another point to it: It drives home that school isn't your happy funtime place, it's a somewhat professional environment where you're expected to do stuff even if you dislike it. In a sense, school is your work.
Oh, and it also protects younger children from their parents stupid decisions.
If you want to express yourself, you can do so in your spare time, or through more subtle means. But you go to school to learn, not to show off yourself.
by Dakini » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:25 am
by Shilya » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:28 am
Threlizdun wrote:Shilya wrote:I like the idea, but never went to any school that has them.
Aside from the more obvious group dynamic reasons, there's another point to it: It drives home that school isn't your happy funtime place, it's a somewhat professional environment where you're expected to do stuff even if you dislike it. In a sense, school is your work.
Oh, and it also protects younger children from their parents stupid decisions.
If you want to express yourself, you can do so in your spare time, or through more subtle means. But you go to school to learn, not to show off yourself.
You act like expressing yourself, acting independently, and social interactions have nothing to do with learning.
by Avenio » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:30 am
by Alexanda » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:33 am
Avenio wrote:This is the 21st century. I would hope that we're beyond playing silly primate hierarchy games with uniforms. Surely we can find more effective ways of helping kids grow into rounded adults than dressing them up in cast-offs from the local production of Oliver Twist.
by Dejanic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:35 am
Dakini wrote:It doesn't really prevent class-related bullying though. Kids from richer families can have more and newer uniforms while poorer kids have to buy second hand and re-wear the same ones.
Forcing girls to wear skirts (and precluding boys from wearing them if skirts are a uniform option at all) is just backwards and sexist bullshit.
by Avenio » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:36 am
Alexanda wrote:Avenio wrote:This is the 21st century. I would hope that we're beyond playing silly primate hierarchy games with uniforms. Surely we can find more effective ways of helping kids grow into rounded adults than dressing them up in cast-offs from the local production of Oliver Twist.
The vast majority of schools in England have uniforms.
So I don't think you can really call wearing a uniform silly!
by Alexanda » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:41 am
Dejanic wrote:Dakini wrote:It doesn't really prevent class-related bullying though. Kids from richer families can have more and newer uniforms while poorer kids have to buy second hand and re-wear the same ones.
Forcing girls to wear skirts (and precluding boys from wearing them if skirts are a uniform option at all) is just backwards and sexist bullshit.
Meh, I don't really see that as a legitimate argument, if your family is under a certain income bracket, you're usually given a free school uniform here. And anyway, wealthy kids probably wouldn't be attending a state school.
by Dakini » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:41 am
Dejanic wrote:Dakini wrote:It doesn't really prevent class-related bullying though. Kids from richer families can have more and newer uniforms while poorer kids have to buy second hand and re-wear the same ones.
Forcing girls to wear skirts (and precluding boys from wearing them if skirts are a uniform option at all) is just backwards and sexist bullshit.
Meh, I don't really see that as a legitimate argument, if your family is under a certain income bracket, you're usually given a free school uniform here. And anyway, wealthy kids probably wouldn't be attending a state school.
by Nimzonia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:41 am
Upper America wrote:I'm not a fan of them. I think it limits our ability to express our personalities. If someone likes to wear t-shirts with their favorite band on them, why not?
by Gallade » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:42 am
by Christiaanistan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:43 am
by Alexanda » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:44 am
by Dejanic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:44 am
Alexanda wrote:Dejanic wrote:Meh, I don't really see that as a legitimate argument, if your family is under a certain income bracket, you're usually given a free school uniform here. And anyway, wealthy kids probably wouldn't be attending a state school.
Some wealthy families send their children to State Schools.
Some disagree with Private Education, whilst some others may work for the government.
by Dejanic » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:45 am
Dakini wrote:Dejanic wrote:Meh, I don't really see that as a legitimate argument, if your family is under a certain income bracket, you're usually given a free school uniform here. And anyway, wealthy kids probably wouldn't be attending a state school.
In Ontario, Canada they don't give out free uniforms to poorer kids in the Catholic schools (which are free to attend other than having to purchase the uniforms). Instead, kids (or their parents, rather) get to shell out upward of $200 for each uniform (which is more than my parents spent on my clothes at the time).
They also had to ban girls wearing skirts in some of the schools because there was a problem with girls wearing thongs and then rolling their skirts.
by Brusia » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:45 am
by Herrebrugh » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:47 am
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