Why should the law care whose work it is a translation of?
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by Regnum Dominae » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:12 pm
by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:12 pm
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by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:14 pm
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by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:16 pm
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by Tekania » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:20 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:By the way, you're wrong for saying that they aren't demanding the removal of all English translations of the Collected Works, because theirs is the only translation of the Collected Works. Everything else is just translations of individual works.
by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:21 pm
Tekania wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:By the way, you're wrong for saying that they aren't demanding the removal of all English translations of the Collected Works, because theirs is the only translation of the Collected Works. Everything else is just translations of individual works.
This better not be addressed to me.
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by Tekania » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:27 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tekania wrote:
No, it is not. The translation is not the same labor as the original writing. You are looking at two sets of labors there, not one.
So, are you saying we shouldn't consult the works themselves for their meaning? Because, if we do, we very clearly see that the intention is for proletarian revolution.
by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:28 pm
Tekania wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:So, are you saying we shouldn't consult the works themselves for their meaning? Because, if we do, we very clearly see that the intention is for proletarian revolution.
No, I am saying that the labor of translating a text, is a separate labor from the creation of that text in its original language. You know, what I just fucking posted that you reponded to with something that has nothing to do with what I said.
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by Tekania » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:30 pm
by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:30 pm
Tekania wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:It's addressed to anyone who said that they aren't demanding the removal of all English translations.
They aren't demanding the removal of all English translations, just theirs. They don't own every single English translation of every single one of Marx or Engels works.
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by United Marxist Nations » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:35 pm
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by Tekania » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:38 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tekania wrote:
No, I am saying that the labor of translating a text, is a separate labor from the creation of that text in its original language. You know, what I just fucking posted that you reponded to with something that has nothing to do with what I said.
Look at the whole comment chain. I said that the point of the works was proletarian revolution, which is contradicted by this, and then you said that it was not.
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by Tekania » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:40 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tekania wrote:
They aren't demanding the removal of all English translations, just theirs. They don't own every single English translation of every single one of Marx or Engels works.
Their translation is the only English translation of the Collected works. All the others are just individual translations of scattered works here and there.
by Tubbsalot » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:45 am
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:38 am
Baader-Meinhof Gruppe wrote:Copyright is theft from the artist. Those promoting copyrights are traitors and deserve to be executed as they are purposefully harming the economy.
by Risottia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:48 am
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tekania wrote:
They aren't demanding the removal of all English translations, just theirs. They don't own every single English translation of every single one of Marx or Engels works.
Their translation is the only English translation of the Collected works. All the others are just individual translations of scattered works here and there.
by Ashmoria » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:16 am
United Marxist Nations wrote:In the last few days, the publisher Lawrence & Wishart have forced the Marxist Internet Archive to remove the collected works of the greatest economists, philosophers, and sociologists in human history, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. They are doing this on the basis of a copyright claim; their claim is that, since they translated the works, they have the right to them.
This claim is absurd, what they are doing in tantamount to trying to limit access to these works. The Collected Works can run up a huge tab, as a result, forcing the Marxist Internet Archive to remove them limits the accessibility of these works to the proletariat -- those that they were intended to reach! Just translating something gives you know ownership of it! The authors of these works have been dead for more than a century, and even if they weren't, I am quite confident that they would want their works available to the proletariat. These works belong in the public domain.
I also ask those of you who are fellow Marxists, communists, socialists, or even anarchists or just those that support the availability of these works to help by signing this petition against Lawrence & Wishart for this gross violation of the dignity of Marxism:
https://www.change.org/petitions/lawren ... cted-works
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:32 am
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by Ashmoria » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:45 am
United Marxist Nations wrote:If it was about people paying for them, then they would have offered MIA the monthly payment plan that they offer to libraries.
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:06 am
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by Xsyne » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:12 am
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:35 am
Xsyne wrote:Workers own the product of their labor, leftists upset for some reason.
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
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by United Marxist Nations » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:37 am
Tekania wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Their translation is the only English translation of the Collected works. All the others are just individual translations of scattered works here and there.
Yes, so therefore you acknowledge the fact then that they are not demanding the removal of all English translations of Marx or Engels work then as you've acknowledge there exist English translations of works by Marx and by Engels that they do not own and have not claimed to own.
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St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
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