More than 100 hate-crime murders linked to single website

[Llamalandia]

Why do you think so?

Well for one racist white supremacists also tend to be raging homophobes.

Eh, don't forget the gay kkk, they hate but they look fabulous doing.

[Ceannairceach]

Why do you think so?

Well for one racist white supremacists also tend to be raging homophobes.

Heh, you should see some of the "apposing views" posts.

"Whaaa? A white woman was attacked!? It's bad enough those dirty negros are hurting good white men, now they're attacking our women! Bunch of dirty savages! It is their genetics that causes this!"

They really are just a bunch of assholes with varying amounts of bigotry, raging from "just" racism to homophobia and misogyny.

[Sjovenia]

Is it bad that I want to start an anti hate paramilitary organization (much like the IRA except they hate...) and basically go on a full on war with people like this, basically being hypocritical. People meaning organizations who are actively spreading hate like the KKK.

[Independent Canterbury]

Are these people serious?

Is it bad that I want to start an anti hate paramilitary organization (much like the IRA except they hate...) and basically go on a full on war with people like this, basically being hypocritical. People meaning organizations who are actively spreading hate like the KKK.

I'd delete that link, it's against the rules to link to 'hate sites'.

[Ryannium]

In the eyes of a true Fascist, Stormfront are naught but heretics

The "white power"/neo-Nazi 'culture' has more in common with a circus freakshow than proper Fascist culture and presentation

[Margno]

Is it bad that I want to start an anti hate paramilitary organization (much like the IRA except they hate...) and basically go on a full on war with people like this, basically being hypocritical. People meaning organizations who are actively spreading hate like the KKK.

Yeah, that's the Black Panthers. They just became a hate group themselves.

[Margno]

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Is it bad that I want to start an anti hate paramilitary organization (much like the IRA except they hate...) and basically go on a full on war with people like this, basically being hypocritical. People meaning organizations who are actively spreading hate like the KKK.

I'd delete that link, it's against the rules to link to 'hate sites'.

It's now in your post, cause you quoted him. Same rule applies.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Hopefully the NSA, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security are paying as much attention to Stormfront and its denizens as they are to any other site linked to terrorism.

[The Romulan Republic]

Is it bad that I want to start an anti hate paramilitary organization (much like the IRA except they hate...) and basically go on a full on war with people like this, basically being hypocritical. People meaning organizations who are actively spreading hate like the KKK.

You'd be contributing to violence and chaos. And you'd be making those who oppose bigotry look bad, aiding the people you'd be fighting.

[Graknopia]

Sad thing is the popularity of the website will probably increase as we move farther away from WW2.

On another note, they go cray cray when a black person attacks a white person but justify it vice versa

[Dyakovo]

Also their is even gays on stormfront which is pretty outrageous. No true racially aware community should tolerate it.

I'm not seeing the connection between being "racially aware" (i.e. racist fuckwad) and sexuality.

[Socialist Tera]

Stormfront is full of crazy nutjobs. I looked at it once and I couldn't tell whether it was serious or it was a parody website like land over baptist church.

[Shilya]

Free speech even applies to nutjobs. So, neither will shutting them down solve the problem - it's not like giving their paranoia more fuel will help solve their issues - nor is it the right thing to do.
Public shaming is even less of a solution, as it's essentially a punishment without a crime. Turns out people have rights, and for good reasons so.

Surveillance seems to be the best solution to me here. Keeps them in one environment we know and relatively easy to track. Hey, how about we put the dickheads at the NSA to good use for once?

[Risottia]

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says...

url: stormfront.org

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Luckily, it's banned in Italy. Fuck yeah!

Turns out people have rights, and for good reasons so.

And among those rights isn't inciting violence.

[Socialist Tera]

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says...

url: stormfront.org

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HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

Luckily, it's banned in Italy. Fuck yeah!

Turns out people have rights, and for good reasons so.

And among those rights isn't inciting violence.

I don't have your luck... It's not banned in Australia.

[Risottia]

I don't have your luck... It's not banned in Australia.

You and your fellow downunderers should really start bitching the hell out of your government and have it banned in Oz, too.

[Saiwania]

Luckily, it's banned in Italy. Fuck yeah!

It is a shame then, that Italy has internet censorship. And Obama wants to internationalize control of ICANN?

[Shilya]

Turns out people have rights, and for good reasons so.

And among those rights isn't inciting violence.

Sure, but there is the right to be dumbfuck retarded.

If someone is inciting violence, single them out and prosecute them. If someone's just being dumbfuck retarded, the internet has enough of that and switching one place off just makes another place larger.

[Risottia]

Luckily, it's banned in Italy. Fuck yeah!

It is a shame then, that Italy has internet censorship.

It's a great thing, actually, that Italy has the legal ability and the political will to prevent people from organising their wee SturmAbteilungen. We don't take organised crime lightly.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And among those rights isn't inciting violence.

Sure, but there is the right to be dumbfuck retarded.

If someone is inciting violence, single them out and prosecute them. If someone's just being dumbfuck retarded, the internet has enough of that and switching one place off just makes another place larger.

Yes, the right to be retarded is there; the right to associate with those who are committing crimes isn't.

[Risottia]

And among those rights isn't inciting violence.

Sure, but there is the right to be dumbfuck retarded.

What piece of legislation or of the UDHR states "people have the right to be dumbfuck retarded"?

So, no. At best, that would be just an temporary interpretation stemming from a LACK of a clear ban on dumbfucked retardedness.

[Graknopia]

It is a shame then, that Italy has internet censorship.

It's a great thing, actually, that Italy has the legal ability and the political will to prevent people from organising their wee SturmAbteilungen. We don't take organised crime lightly.

Is the black panther website blocked?

[Saiwania]

It's a great thing, actually, that Italy has the legal ability and the political will to prevent people from organising their wee SturmAbteilungen. We don't take organised crime lightly.

Italy can't prove that Stormfront is directly responsible for any murders, at best it has only been demonstrated that Stormfront has had individual users that broke the law.

[Shilya]

Sure, but there is the right to be dumbfuck retarded.

If someone is inciting violence, single them out and prosecute them. If someone's just being dumbfuck retarded, the internet has enough of that and switching one place off just makes another place larger.

Yes, the right to be retarded is there; the right to associate with those who are committing crimes isn't.

Sure it is. Assisting them in their crimes is not, but mere association? Just because one of my friends is a drug dealer doesn't mean I'm a criminal.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Sure, but there is the right to be dumbfuck retarded.

What piece of legislation or of the UDHR states "people have the right to be dumbfuck retarded"?

So, no. At best, that would be just an temporary interpretation stemming from a LACK of a clear ban on dumbfucked retardedness.

Well, you really can't ban stupidity, as intellect is very subjective.

However, you can ban hate speech or hate group sites. So it stands to reason that we should.

Here in the U.S. our internet access regulation is more done by the ISP than the government; so we can access it (I just accessed stromfront; I got a bit antsy browsing through the place. I guess it's because I still can't process how can someone look at something so immaterial as the color of one's skin as important).