is america losing its status as a superpower?

[Cailfornia]

In recent days it seems like our economy is slower then the rest of the world and our political and military prowess has decline. Is America still a superpower?

[Divair2]

In recent days it seems like our economy is slower then the rest of the world and our political and military prowess has decline. Is America still a superpower?

Yes.

[Murkwood]

Yes, we are still a superpower.

What are your thoughts, OP?

[Risottia]

In recent days it seems like our economy is slower then the rest of the world and our political and military prowess has decline. Is America still a superpower?

Impeach Obama, Reducing DoD budget is theft, Tea Party 2015.

[Jocabia]

In recent days it seems like our economy is slower then the rest of the world and our political and military prowess has decline. Is America still a superpower?

Totally in decline. We barely have enough military firepower to take on the rest of the world together at this point.

Our weakest area, when it comes to military, is that we have a population that is such a small percentage in comparison to the rest of the world. Otherwise, we pretty much couldn't be more prepared for war.

That said, I genuinely hope our military power is in decline. We could cut it by three quarters and we'd still have the most technologically advanced military in the world and we'd have a much better economy.

[Ostroeuropa]

Yes. Partially because of Neoliberal Fantasy land economics and the bountiful amount of americans running around shrieking "MUH CAPITALISM."
And partially because of the rise of the E.U drawing power further east.

Any fan of western civilization worth their salt shouldn't be focusing on retaining US hegenomy. It's a doomed project. We should be focusing on forging a network alliance to secure the rights and liberties of the world, and to protect the west.

The future is a US-EU diarchy, with the "outlying" western nations having significant sway.

The US should slash it's military budget a lot. Other western countries should quit being freeloaders and pick up the tab.

The UK, france, and Poland are paying their way. The rest appear to be freeloading.

A united EU army would go some way to correcting this.

[Dejanic]

Yes, superpower wise I could see the EU-North America as some kind of joint superpower in the future, but the Usa on its own? Na.

I believe national superpowers are going to start being replaced by continental superpowers in the coming decades.

[Norstal]

In recent days it seems like our economy is slower then the rest of the world and our political and military prowess has decline. Is America still a superpower?

No, that title obviously goes to Japan. America weren't able to defeat the combined Japanese Magical Girls Corps and their Mobile Armored Mecha Division. As a result, the U.S we knew in 2014 collapsed.

[Risottia]

The UK, france, and Poland are paying their way.

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

[Greater-London]

Not really. The thing about being a superpower is having the Money and the Man Power is just part of it (the US still has ample both those things). It's also about playing the part, whilst the US has the know how and the political will to be a superpower it will be.

The Americans are willing to go pretty much anywhere on the globe and the same can't be said about emerging powers. Especially as the US has been criticized for doing it for such a long time.

[Ostroeuropa]

The UK, france, and Poland are paying their way.

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

Compared to Italy? Yeh, we're paying our way. Bitching that we can no longer afford to pay for your defence is just arrogance. Now we're simply paying for our own.
The British and French are paying for the defence of europe so you can all enjoy higher standards of living. We defended you so you could rebuild your shit economies over a period of 50/100 years.
That process is over, and now we expect you to start paying for your defence too.

[Norstal]

Yes. Partially because of Neoliberal Fantasy land economics and the bountiful amount of americans running around shrieking "MUH CAPITALISM."

Anyone living in the U.S would know that those kind of extremists only live in God Knows Where. Most states like California is pretty much working on a socialist model.

The UK, france, and Poland are paying their way.

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

The U.K and Poland are such emerging superpowers that they were the first responders when the Malaysian airplane went down...

Bahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha

God, even fucking China went ahead first.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

Compared to Italy? Yeh, we're paying our way. Bitching that we can no longer afford to pay for your defence is just arrogance. Now we're simply paying for our own.
The British and French are paying for the defence of europe so you can all enjoy higher standards of living. We defended you so you could rebuild your shit economies over a period of 50/100 years.
That process is over, and now we expect you to start paying for your defence too.

So where the hell are you getting Poland out of all this?

[Greater-London]

The U.K and Poland are such emerging superpowers that they were the first responders when the Malaysian airplane went down...

Bahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha

God, even fucking China went ahead first.

Well to be fair Malaysia is quite near to China... I don't know if the Poles have any naval bases outside Europe I doubt it. I don't know if Britain has any in the South East of Asia but I doubt it too.

That logic means that if a ferry sinks in the English Channel then China definitely isn't a superpower if it didn't help the salvage mission.

[Ostroeuropa]

Compared to Italy? Yeh, we're paying our way. Bitching that we can no longer afford to pay for your defence is just arrogance. Now we're simply paying for our own.
The British and French are paying for the defence of europe so you can all enjoy higher standards of living. We defended you so you could rebuild your shit economies over a period of 50/100 years.
That process is over, and now we expect you to start paying for your defence too.

So where the hell are you getting Poland out of all this?

Poland actually pays nearly 2% of it's GDP to the military. That's an appropriate amount. The UK pays 2.5 because we're picking up the slack of nations like Italy, who pay 1.7

[The Matthew Islands]

Yes. Partially because of Neoliberal Fantasy land economics and the bountiful amount of americans running around shrieking "MUH CAPITALISM."

Anyone living in the U.S would know that those kind of extremists only live in God Knows Where. Most states like California is pretty much working on a socialist model.

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

The U.K and Poland are such emerging superpowers that they were the first responders when the Malaysian airplane went down...

Bahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha

God, even fucking China went ahead first.

Lies and slander! Everyone knows the Royal Navy is the best and it could totally beat everyone!

ruuuule britannia!

[Ostroeuropa]

One of the major freeloaders is spain, which pays 0.85% to defence. Ireland pays 0.5.


basically, a lot of europe are freeloading and expecting the US and UK/France/Poland to pay for their defence. For that reason, I support an E.U army to force them to actually pay for their own defence.

[Norstal]

The U.K and Poland are such emerging superpowers that they were the first responders when the Malaysian airplane went down...

Bahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha

God, even fucking China went ahead first.

Well to be fair Malaysia is quite near to China... I don't know if the Poles have any naval bases outside Europe I doubt it. I don't know if Britain has any in the South East of Asia but I doubt it too.

That logic means that if a ferry sinks in the English Channel then China definitely isn't a superpower if it didn't help the salvage mission.

That is the point. That is exactly the point of a superpower. The U.S can deploy anywhere at a moment's notice.

Do you people even know what superpower means? It's not about having just the biggest penis. It's also about being able to hit everyone with your big penis. Because if you're just sitting on your ass not doing anything with your big penis, you might as well be like the other guy who has a small penis.

[The Matthew Islands]

Yup, I totally see Britain and Poland paying for their two carriers each. Oh wait...

Compared to Italy? Yeh, we're paying our way. Bitching that we can no longer afford to pay for your defence is just arrogance. Now we're simply paying for our own.
The British and French are paying for the defence of europe so you can all enjoy higher standards of living. We defended you so you could rebuild your shit economies over a period of 50/100 years.
That process is over, and now we expect you to start paying for your defence too.

Italy has a navy with two aircraft carriers, 3 assault ships and 15 combat ships. It could take on the Royal Navy.

[Keyboard Warriors]

So where the hell are you getting Poland out of all this?

Poland actually pays nearly 2% of it's GDP to the military. That's an appropriate amount. The UK pays 2.5 because we're picking up the slack of nations like Italy, who pay 1.7

The UK pays 2.5% because they're determined to maintain a strategic power projection force. Italy pays 1.7% because it has little involvement overseas and it's entire military is structured around repelling a Russian advance. There is no appropriate amount to spend on defence. Europe is more than adequately defended and, for the record, Italy contributes twice as much to that than Poland.

[Ostroeuropa]

Compared to Italy? Yeh, we're paying our way. Bitching that we can no longer afford to pay for your defence is just arrogance. Now we're simply paying for our own.
The British and French are paying for the defence of europe so you can all enjoy higher standards of living. We defended you so you could rebuild your shit economies over a period of 50/100 years.
That process is over, and now we expect you to start paying for your defence too.

Italy has a navy with two aircraft carriers, 3 assault ships and 15 combat ships. It could take on the Royal Navy.

It's not a blue water navy. It's functionally pointless in terms of defending europe and it's interest. (Except from Russia. Maybe.)

[Ostroeuropa]

Poland actually pays nearly 2% of it's GDP to the military. That's an appropriate amount. The UK pays 2.5 because we're picking up the slack of nations like Italy, who pay 1.7

The UK pays 2.5% because they're determined to maintain a strategic power projection force. Italy pays 1.7% because it has little involvement overseas and it's entire military is structured around repelling a Russian advance. There is no appropriate amount to spend on defence. Europe is more than adequately defended and, for the record, Italy contributes twice as much to that than Poland.

We need a strategic power projection force. The alternative is to allow genocides and hostile expansion elsewhere in the globe.

[Dejanic]

Poland actually pays nearly 2% of it's GDP to the military. That's an appropriate amount. The UK pays 2.5 because we're picking up the slack of nations like Italy, who pay 1.7

The UK pays 2.5% because they're determined to maintain a strategic power projection force. Italy pays 1.7% because it has little involvement overseas and it's entire military is structured around repelling a Russian advance. There is no appropriate amount to spend on defence. Europe is more than adequately defended and, for the record, Italy contributes twice as much to that than Poland.

Say what? I don't think Italy are afraid of a Russian advance, do you mean Poland?

[Keyboard Warriors]

Italy has a navy with two aircraft carriers, 3 assault ships and 15 combat ships. It could take on the Royal Navy.

It's not a blue water navy. It's functionally pointless in terms of defending europe and it's interest.

Do you actually know anything of what you're talking about?

The UK pays 2.5% because they're determined to maintain a strategic power projection force. Italy pays 1.7% because it has little involvement overseas and it's entire military is structured around repelling a Russian advance. There is no appropriate amount to spend on defence. Europe is more than adequately defended and, for the record, Italy contributes twice as much to that than Poland.

We need a strategic power projection force. The alternative is to allow genocides and hostile expansion elsewhere in the globe.

And we have one.

[Keyboard Warriors]

The UK pays 2.5% because they're determined to maintain a strategic power projection force. Italy pays 1.7% because it has little involvement overseas and it's entire military is structured around repelling a Russian advance. There is no appropriate amount to spend on defence. Europe is more than adequately defended and, for the record, Italy contributes twice as much to that than Poland.

Say what? I don't think Italy are afraid of a Russian advance, do you mean Poland?

Italy's military is still very much a relic of the cold war when yes, it was structured around defending from a Russian advance just like every other country in western Europe was at the time.