The Allies Were Wrong in the First World War

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

[America Libertaria]

There was no right or wrong in WW1. It was an old styled war fought with new technology.

[Norstal]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

Um. World War I isn't just about Serbia. You know this, right?

[The UK in Exile]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

The Allies picked the right side: the winning side.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

Um. World War I isn't just about Serbia. You know this, right?

Yes. But that's what put it into motion.

[Shilya]

Trying to pin a war that everyone had been preparing for years and that everyone involved really wanted to happen on one person, or even assigning blame, is frankly stupid.

There are many, many factors that led to ww1. The shot only lighted the fuse on a load of dynamite that all of Europe had worked really, really hard to stack up.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

Trying to pin a war that everyone had been preparing for years and that everyone involved really wanted to happen on one person, or even assigning blame, is frankly stupid.

There are many, many factors that led to ww1. The shot only lighted the fuse on a load of dynamite that all of Europe had worked really, really hard to stack up.

Militarism, nationalism and alliances were a problem, but it did light the fuse. It shouldn't have happened in the first place.

[L Ron Cupboard]

It didn't help that Kaiser Wilhelm was also one of history's biggest assholes - a pompous, weak, gullible, vain little shit.

[Norstal]

Um. World War I isn't just about Serbia. You know this, right?

Yes. But that's what put it into motion.

So you should understand that one factor doesn't decide which side should win.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

It didn't help that Kaiser Wilhelm was also one of history's biggest assholes - a pompous, weak, gullible, vain little shit.

That's why I said I was anti-deutsch in the OP

[CTALNH]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

The Allies picked the right side: the winning side.

Holy shit mind blown.

[Hladgos]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

The only thing to blame for WW1 is a bunch of overeager nations stuck in too many alliances.

[Kyuji]

Considering how tolerant and progresive the Austro-Hungarian empire was ,i'm inclined to agree with your statement

[Tribea]

Trying to pin a war that everyone had been preparing for years and that everyone involved really wanted to happen on one person, or even assigning blame, is frankly stupid.

There are many, many factors that led to ww1. The shot only lighted the fuse on a load of dynamite that all of Europe had worked really, really hard to stack up.

The shot was what gave them a half-assed excuse.

[Freedom Planita 2]

Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XPZQ0LAlR4

[The Fascist American Empire]

Bah. Regardless of wether they deserved to lose or not, they didn't, and until I get my hands on a TARDIS, history can't change. Although I do agree with you. Plus, if Germany was victorious in WWI, then there wouldn't have been a Nazi Party in control to start WWII.

[BOS Capital Chapter]

Germany declared war on Serbia, so Britan and France declared war on Germany. Backing it's ally, Germany invaded France. I think the Central Powers were the good guys, and Germany was totally stomped on at the end of that war.

[The Fascist American Empire]

Germany declared war on Serbia, so Britan and France declared war on Germany. Backing it's ally, Germany invaded France. I think the Central Powers were the good guys, and Germany was totally stomped on at the end of that war.

Every side sees its cause as just. In war, there is no good or evil.

[Ikania]

I was originally pro-allies, then pro-central, then pro-allies and now I'm split. While I agree that Serbia definitely started it and deserved to be fought, Germany made the same mistake as they would twenty years later by declaring war on too many people. Demanding France stay neutral was enough, but then attacking it and invading Luxembourg just in case is not a good idea. And marching across a previously declared neutral to get there was not good either. Germany brought it upon themselves, and probably should have stayed out of it and let Austria fight their own war, or at least try to stay in good terms with others, because it didn't go too well with Russia either.

So while I agree that the war against the allies was justified, Germany made way too many mistakes after war was declared, and could have avoided it easily by staying out.

EDIT: Also don't forget the British. Another reason not to march into Belgium; IT HAS ALLIES TOO. And I will add oncemore that the invasion of France was an unneeded disaster, yet they still did it because... France!

[CTALNH]

Germany declared war on Serbia, so Britan and France declared war on Germany. Backing it's ally, Germany invaded France. I think the Central Powers were the good guys, and Germany was totally stomped on at the end of that war.

Every side sees its cause as just. In war, there is no good or evil.

There is no such thing us a just cause.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

Germany declared war on Serbia, so Britan and France declared war on Germany. Backing it's ally, Germany invaded France. I think the Central Powers were the good guys, and Germany was totally stomped on at the end of that war.

Every side sees its cause as just. In war, there is no good or evil.

WW2...

[The Archregimancy]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife.

An assertion which shows a certain lack of understanding of Balkan politics in 1914.

While it's true that the Serbian authorities had given support to the Black Hand ultra-nationalists in the organisation's early years, by summer 1914, not only was the Serbian government not "supporting" the organisation, it was actively trying to suppress it.

So your starting premise is seriously flawed.

[BOS Capital Chapter]

During war, there is no right or wrong. But what about WW2? That was terrible and there was no right or wrong? When you look back and make your own conclusions there is a good and bad cause. Germany was on the good in WW1, and in a way, WW2 as well. WW2 never would have happened if WW1 didnt. Germany was drained of everything, money, military, colonies, and left in a depression. France and Britain were douchbags

[Purpelia]

In World War One, the Allies were incorrect and deserved to lose.

The reasoning is because Serbia brought it upon themselves by supporting terrorists that killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne who wanted to improves the Balkans and his wife. Austria-Hungary had all of the rights and reasons to invade Serbia and the allies should have stayed out of it. Now I do not condone what the Germans did in any way, they took advantage of the situation but the allies sided with the wrong people.

It's a shame that this even happened in the first place. That one shot fired by Gavrilo Princip leads up to most of the problems that the world have been dealing with in the last 90 years.

What do you say, NSG?

If you want to prove that getting involved in WW1 was a mistake you do not need to prove that the Germans were somehow righteous. All you need to do is point out just how stupid and pointless it is to get involved in someone elses war.

[Divair2]

Everyone was wrong in WW1.