I have the right to use government land (now with slavery!)

[Gig em Aggies]

What if we used his own tactic against him. By which we have stuff owned by the federal government use his land Without paying fees and then when he demand we move we gather armed pro government supporters and have them point guns at his head figuratively and see if he likes being treated that way.

That would be stupid, because it would be illegal. The whole point of the government is not to do illegal things.

But what he's doing is also illegal, but it will teach him a lesson.

[Death Metal]

That would be stupid, because it would be illegal. The whole point of the government is not to do illegal things.

But what he's doing is also illegal, but it will teach him a lesson.

"Eric let his dog poop in Robert's yard, therefore Robert is right to steal Eric's car."

[Gig em Aggies]

But what he's doing is also illegal, but it will teach him a lesson.

"Eric let his dog poop in Robert's yard, therefore Robert is right to steal Eric's car."

Not the same Bundy is use federal land illegally and without paying the appropriate fees for using said land. And Bundy is demanding government equipment and people be removed from lands he does not own.

[Death Metal]

"Eric let his dog poop in Robert's yard, therefore Robert is right to steal Eric's car."

Not the same Bundy is use federal land illegally and without paying the appropriate fees for using said land. And Bundy is demanding government equipment and people be removed from lands he does not own.

You can't just seize control of his assets without due process though.

[Gig em Aggies]

Not the same Bundy is use federal land illegally and without paying the appropriate fees for using said land. And Bundy is demanding government equipment and people be removed from lands he does not own.

You can't just seize control of his assets without due process though.

Does it look like Bundy cares about due process himself. So what your saying is that the government should continue to give court orders that Bundy will not follow. It's past court orders now since he brought armed wackos into his temper tantrum. Okay if that don't work the have the IRS put a lean on his earnings if he refuses to or don't pay up then they can repossess it for non payment.

[Death Metal]

You can't just seize control of his assets without due process though.

Does it look like Bundy cares about due process himself. So what your saying is that the government should continue to give court orders that Bundy will not follow.

No, I'm saying you lose the moral ground when you stoop to their level.

[Gig em Aggies]

Does it look like Bundy cares about due process himself. So what your saying is that the government should continue to give court orders that Bundy will not follow.

No, I'm saying you lose the moral ground when you stoop to their level.

Don't worry when Bundy threatened to severely harm government officers he moved to stoop at a new level which is now lower, so the government still wouldn't be at his level yet.

[Tekania]

You can't just seize control of his assets without due process though.

Does it look like Bundy cares about due process himself. So what your saying is that the government should continue to give court orders that Bundy will not follow. It's past court orders now since he brought armed wackos into his temper tantrum. Okay if that don't work the have the IRS put a lean on his earnings if he refuses to or don't pay up then they can repossess it for non payment.

IRS would not be involved in this. However liens could be imposed...... The Feds have enough now as it is to likely get enough liability on him to pretty much necessitate him selling his ranch to satisfy it, and pretty much make the transaction of business impossible for him. Little need for guns in this case when accountants can do more harm.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

The right loves Bundy because he's the real-life John Galt they've been dreaming about the whole time.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Not the same Bundy is use federal land illegally and without paying the appropriate fees for using said land. And Bundy is demanding government equipment and people be removed from lands he does not own.

You can't just seize control of his assets without due process though.

Then it's great that there's been due process.

[Tekania]

The right loves Bundy because he's the real-life John Galt they've been dreaming about the whole time.

A teenage genius with double majors in philosophy and physics who invents a perpetual motion machine?

I agree, insane.... just like Bundy.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

The right loves Bundy because he's the real-life John Galt they've been dreaming about the whole time.

A teenage genius with double majors in philosophy and physics who invents a perpetual motion machine?

I agree, insane.... just like Bundy.

A rich, persecuted capitalist who gives up on the government and lives outside of its laws. And a dick.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Lets just have Hogan or someone take care of Bundy and call it a day already :/

[Murkwood]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS? OWS broke more laws and caused more damage.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS? OWS broke more laws and caused more damage.

Here we go!

I got to ask though, my memory was foggy because of how unsuccessful it was but, I don't recall OWS protestors bringing fire arms to their protest.

[Gauthier]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS? OWS broke more laws and caused more damage.

Here we go!

I got to ask though, my memory was foggy because of how unsuccessful it was but, I don't recall OWS protestors bringing fire arms to their protest.

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Here we go!

I got to ask though, my memory was foggy because of how unsuccessful it was but, I don't recall OWS protestors bringing fire arms to their protest.

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

True that

[Murkwood]

Here we go!

I got to ask though, my memory was foggy because of how unsuccessful it was but, I don't recall OWS protestors bringing fire arms to their protest.

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

"entire right wing"? Not so! Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma said, “You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that. And the Bureau of Land Management is not government-owned, it’s publicly owned. There’s a big difference there. I blame both sides.”

[Tekania]

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

"entire right wing"? Not so! Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma said, “You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that. And the Bureau of Land Management is not government-owned, it’s publicly owned. There’s a big difference there. I blame both sides.”

Unfortunately. he's got errors in and of himself. the BLM is an administrative sub-component of the US Department of the Interior..... it's not a corporation, it's not "publicly owned". It's a Regulatory enforcement agency, like the SEC, EPA, etc.

[Death Metal]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS?[0][1] OWS broke more laws and caused more damage[2].

0) I found OWS to be a joke myself. "Let's protest corporatism! Don't forget we need a place to recharge our iCrap!" Also: "We'll air our demands after we figure out what exactly our demands are"
1) Partly because it was a nonviolent protest, compared to the holding-back-government-agents-armed-with-tasers-at-gunpoint protests of the Bundy cronies; also, wasn't the original OWS on public property?
2) [citation needed]

[United Dependencies]

Here we go!

I got to ask though, my memory was foggy because of how unsuccessful it was but, I don't recall OWS protestors bringing fire arms to their protest.

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

That's not entirely fair, Glenn Beck is opposed to Bundy's actions.

[Dyakovo]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS? OWS broke more laws and caused more damage.

When did OWS protesters threaten to kill any police that tried to stop them?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

That's not entirely fair, Glenn Beck is opposed to Bundy's actions.

Glenn is starting to confuse me more and more, and just makes me believe that people are being lied to more and more.

The irrational part of me has the liberal alternative to those stupid conspiracy theories running about.

[Death Metal]

If they did the entire right wing sure wouldn't be calling them 'patriots'.

That's not entirely fair, Glenn Beck is opposed to Bundy's actions.

Like I said before, when Glenn Beck is calling you an ass, you're way too far deep into the Koch Kool-Aid (copyright 1984 Koch Industries)

[Tekania]

I hate folks like this. Gives Rightists a bad name.

Here's something that's puzzling me. Why are Liberals (rightfully so) piling on on the Bundy protesters, while they were silent or supportive of OWS? OWS broke more laws and caused more damage.

"Liberals" were no more blanketly supporters OWS any more than "Conservatives" are blanketly supporters of Bundy.