If this is the case, then this man has already paid for it, via taxes, why should he pay even more to use the land that he paid through taxes?
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by Republic of Coldwater » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:28 am
by Shilya » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:30 am
by Olivaero » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:30 am
by Republic of Coldwater » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:33 am
Shilya wrote:Republic of Coldwater wrote:
If this is the case, then this man has already paid for it, via taxes, why should he pay even more to use the land that he paid through taxes?
Because the taxes pay for maintaining and defending the land. They don't give him usage permits larger than anyone elses. If he uses the land - everyones land - then he gets to pay extra for it.
Turns out you can't decide on your own how the land of 300 million people is to be used.
by Shilya » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:35 am
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Shilya wrote:Because the taxes pay for maintaining and defending the land. They don't give him usage permits larger than anyone elses. If he uses the land - everyones land - then he gets to pay extra for it.
Turns out you can't decide on your own how the land of 300 million people is to be used.
What is the land used for anyway?
The government could actually allow some people to use this land, as it has no use otherwise.
by L Ron Cupboard » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:37 am
by European Socialist Republic » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:42 am
by AiliailiA » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:36 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:44 am
by McCatsonia » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:52 am
Gig em Aggies wrote:The people coming to his aid certainly thinks he's better then the government so they might also think he can use his mind to control his cattle
by AiliailiA » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:53 am
Eaglleia wrote:Just sounds like some cheapskate to me, the BLM's in the right here.
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Costa Fierro » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:11 am
Ailiailia wrote:It says in the article he refused to pay fees in protest against an environmental regulation. Reading between the lines, he was probably limited in where he could let this cattle drink (as cattle do seriously degrade natural sources of water).
by Dyakovo » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:53 am
Shofercia wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:So he's refused to pay the grazing fee, more or less blatantly breaking the law, and people are coming to protest in his support for breaking the law?
It's called the Ukrainian Syndrome. It's when you use land/gas that belongs to someone else, and then refuse to pay, while arming yourself.
by Olivaero » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:58 am
Alyekra wrote:The government does not own everything by default. There is no moral obligation to pay them for using the land.
by Shilya » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:11 am
Alyekra wrote:The government does not own everything by default. There is no moral obligation to pay them for using the land.
by Olivaero » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:13 am
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:16 am
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Shilya wrote:Because the taxes pay for maintaining and defending the land. They don't give him usage permits larger than anyone elses. If he uses the land - everyones land - then he gets to pay extra for it.
Turns out you can't decide on your own how the land of 300 million people is to be used.
What is the land used for anyway?
The government could actually allow some people to use this land,
as it has no use otherwise.
Alyekra wrote:The government does not own everything by default.
There is no moral obligation to pay them for using the land.
by Esternial » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:17 am
Olivaero wrote:Alyekra wrote:
I can manufacture a piece of paper that says I own the entire planet, but that doesn't make it true.
Surely then no one can own any land? I mean all Land ownership is ultimately because at some point some one decided that they were the ones who owned it and they had the biggest stick.
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:19 am
Olivaero wrote:Alyekra wrote:
I can manufacture a piece of paper that says I own the entire planet, but that doesn't make it true.
Surely then no one can own any land? I mean all Land ownership is ultimately because at some point some one decided that they were the ones who owned it and they had the biggeststickdick.
by Olivaero » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:20 am
Esternial wrote:Olivaero wrote:Surely then no one can own any land? I mean all Land ownership is ultimately because at some point some one decided that they were the ones who owned it and they had the biggest stick.
Your ownership of a plot of land is determined by a piece of paper that is officially acknowledged by the government of the country that actually owns the land you walk on. Other people can buy this piece of paper and then sell it to other people or build a house on it before selling both the house and the land to someone else.
by Olivaero » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:22 am
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