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Should voluntary cannibilism be legal?

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Nationes Pii Redivivi
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:04 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Faruanickia wrote:For most people (including me) it goes without saying that consumption of human meat should be frowned upon and highly illegal, end of discussion. However, I have come across a few people (mostly liberals) who believe that "voluntary cannibalism" should be legal on the grounds of "freedom". I oppose all cannibalism including voluntary cannibalism. Not only is it completely immoral, but should the cannibal develop a taste for human meat then that may lead the person to kill for it. This is especially true if there is a shortage of voluntary human meat since very very very very few people would volunteer to be meals. The job of government is to maintain civil order and voluntary cannibalism goes against that order by putting the general public in danger. So do you think that voluntary cannibalism should be legal or illegal?

I agree with you, and also raise an additional concern: how does one distinguish voluntary from involuntary human meat? Methinks 'twould be simpler to just ban human meat.


By legalising it, we can allow the market to decide, and the government to redress any wrong from illegally procured flesh.

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Postby Shilya » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:04 pm

It depends on the circumstances of death.

Anyone healthy and willing to be slaughtered for his meat is clearly not sane enough to decide it. See also: suicide. Hence, this should remain illegal, to protect the insane from coming to harm.

But there is another case. We already allow the reusage of internal organs for medical practices, if the deceased previously gave his permission to use them. Why is the flesh so much different?
In case of a naturally occuring death, meaning a death unrelated to the decision of the donor to donate his flesh, it should be legal to donate your flesh just like you donate internal organs.
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Postby Britannic Realms » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:05 pm

Tiltjuice wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:I never really understood what was wrong with cannibalism in the first place.


Kuru.


How is that different from getting mad cow disease from contaminated meat?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:07 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:The only time where cannibalism would be acceptable, to me, would be in a time of extreme starvation. Like at the Siege of Leningrad.

I wouldn't say its acceptable or unacceptable in that circumstance, just a fact of life.
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Postby Tiltjuice » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:08 pm

Britannic Realms wrote:
Tiltjuice wrote:
Kuru.


How is that different from getting mad cow disease from contaminated meat?


It's not. That's the point.
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Postby Dukats » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 pm

If you support cannibalism then let us eat you.

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Postby Britannic Realms » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 pm

Tiltjuice wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:
How is that different from getting mad cow disease from contaminated meat?


It's not. That's the point.


So you suggest that we ban cows because they can get mad cow disease?
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Postby Viritica » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 pm

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:15 pm

Dukats wrote:If you support cannibalism then let us eat you.


Supporting the right for people to sell their own flesh, as well as people to market that flesh, is not the same as supporting Cannibalism in general, something that I, personally, am profoundly indifferent about.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:15 pm

Scomagia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The only time where cannibalism would be acceptable, to me, would be in a time of extreme starvation. Like at the Siege of Leningrad.

I wouldn't say its acceptable or unacceptable in that circumstance, just a fact of life.

That would be acceptable. Those in the besieged city of Leningrad were not punished (at least, when the person was already dead; a fairly large group of people were punished for hunting people in the city), and those in similar situations should not be punished for it either.
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Postby Viritica » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:17 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I wouldn't say its acceptable or unacceptable in that circumstance, just a fact of life.

That would be acceptable. Those in the besieged city of Leningrad were not punished (at least, when the person was already dead; a fairly large group of people were punished for hunting people in the city), and those in similar situations should not be punished for it either.

You just somehow manage to sneak a USSR reference into every thread, don't you?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:18 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I wouldn't say its acceptable or unacceptable in that circumstance, just a fact of life.

That would be acceptable. Those in the besieged city of Leningrad were not punished (at least, when the person was already dead; a fairly large group of people were punished for hunting people in the city), and those in similar situations should not be punished for it either.

I absolutely agree that, in those circumstances, people shouldn't be punished for doing what they must to survive. So long as people aren't being murdered for their tasty meat.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:19 pm

Viritica wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:That would be acceptable. Those in the besieged city of Leningrad were not punished (at least, when the person was already dead; a fairly large group of people were punished for hunting people in the city), and those in similar situations should not be punished for it either.

You just somehow manage to sneak a USSR reference into every thread, don't you?

You have to admit that it takes some skill to do it in a non hamfisted fashion.
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Postby United Christian America » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:20 pm

Tiltjuice wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:I never really understood what was wrong with cannibalism in the first place.


Kuru.


Not to mention the fact that when cases of voluntary cannibalism occurred, they were usually in the context of people about to starve to death:

Such as: http://www.history.com/topics/donner-party

Such events would possibly be associated with terrible times and horrific measures taken in the name of staying alive.

i'm assuming that we're not including 'living wills' in this, where people who were about to die from causes other than starvation specifically agreed to be eaten, or at least did not strongly object.

On the other hand, how can make absolutely sure that people will agree to be eaten instead of being tricked into becoming the next plate of soylent green?

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Postby Viritica » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:20 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Viritica wrote:You just somehow manage to sneak a USSR reference into every thread, don't you?

You have to admit that it takes some skill to do it in a non hamfisted fashion.

I find it both disturbing and impressive. I wonder if he says "Goodmorning, Lenin" when he wakes up every morning.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:21 pm

Viritica wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You have to admit that it takes some skill to do it in a non hamfisted fashion.

I find it both disturbing and impressive. I wonder if he says "Goodmorning, Lenin" when he wakes up every morning.

The really impressive feat is if he can slip the references in during sex.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:23 pm

Viritica wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You have to admit that it takes some skill to do it in a non hamfisted fashion.

I find it both disturbing and impressive. I wonder if he says "Goodmorning, Lenin" when he wakes up every morning.

No, it's just that if we're going to talk about cannibalism, instances of starvation are going to come up. And, should those mentioned, the consequences of Nazism serve as, regrettably, useful examples.
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Postby Viritica » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:24 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Viritica wrote:I find it both disturbing and impressive. I wonder if he says "Goodmorning, Lenin" when he wakes up every morning.

The really impressive feat is if he can slip the references in during sex.

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Postby Ardoki » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:28 pm

Cannibalism is just the same as eating animal meat.
But I don't like cannibalism and I think it should be banned even though banning it is hypocritical.
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Postby Kyuji » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:29 pm

Personally I think it should be allowed .
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:29 pm

Viritica wrote:
Scomagia wrote:The really impressive feat is if he can slip the references in during sex.

"Oh, yes, it feels better than raising the Soviet flag over Berlin!"

:clap: Well done sir.
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:29 pm

Faruanickia wrote:So do you think that voluntary cannibalism should be legal or illegal?


Hell yeah. I'd eat a grilled human sandwich.

Such meat would be expensive due to scarcity, but it would be a great meal for special occasions. Skip the cake on my birthday, bring me a nice human stake.

I think you should be allowed to have your body processed into meat products and sold upon your death. Some of the profits should be given to your family (was this an NS issue? This seems vaguely familiar.)

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Postby Dukats » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:29 pm

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Scomagia wrote:The really impressive feat is if he can slip the references in during sex.

"Oh, yes, it feels better than raising the Soviet flag over Berlin!"


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Postby Izandai » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:30 pm

If someone who can be found to be of sound mind voluntarily wishes to place their own flesh on the open market, either before or after their death, and it can be guaranteed that eating their flesh isn't going to make anyone sick (assuming that it's prepared appropriately), I don't see any problem with it.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:31 pm

Kyuji wrote:Personally I think it should be allowed .

Care to elaborate?
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