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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:08 pm

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Next topic: Are insults inherently offensive?


No. That was simple.

Well. That was wrong.

n·sult [v. in-suhlt; n. in-suhlt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2.
to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3.
Archaic. to attack; assault.
verb (used without object)
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Archaic. to behave with insolent triumph; exult contemptuously (usually followed by on, upon, or over ).
noun
5.
an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront.
6.
something having the effect of an affront: That book is an insult to one's intelligence.
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Medicine/Medical .
a.
an injury or trauma.
b.
an agent that inflicts this.
8.
Archaic. an attack or assault.
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Postby Ordealius » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:10 pm

Why are people still posting here...
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Postby Tubbsalot » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:10 pm

Of course not... as though "slut" were exclusively a word for women.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Forsher wrote:No. That was simple.

Well. That was wrong.

n·sult [v. in-suhlt; n. in-suhlt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2.
to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3.
Archaic. to attack; assault.
verb (used without object)
4.
Archaic. to behave with insolent triumph; exult contemptuously (usually followed by on, upon, or over ).
noun
5.
an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront.
6.
something having the effect of an affront: That book is an insult to one's intelligence.
7.
Medicine/Medical .
a.
an injury or trauma.
b.
an agent that inflicts this.
8.
Archaic. an attack or assault.

Insult me all you like; I won't be offended.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:11 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:Of course not... as though "slut" were exclusively a word for women.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Well. That was wrong.

n·sult [v. in-suhlt; n. in-suhlt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2.
to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3.
Archaic. to attack; assault.
verb (used without object)
4.
Archaic. to behave with insolent triumph; exult contemptuously (usually followed by on, upon, or over ).
noun
5.
an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront.
6.
something having the effect of an affront: That book is an insult to one's intelligence.
7.
Medicine/Medical .
a.
an injury or trauma.
b.
an agent that inflicts this.
8.
Archaic. an attack or assault.

Insult me all you like; I won't be offended.


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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:15 pm

Ordealius wrote:Why are people still posting here...

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:17 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Ordealius wrote:Why are people still posting here...

Don't you know? NSG is a Slursayers Anonymous meeting tonight.


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Postby Shirelands » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:24 pm

NotSoDistantUtopia wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
because porn is still bad according to some "feminists" even if all involved are men.


How can porn be bad? It is sexually liberating for women.


"sexually liberating"? while it is a woman's choice to go into the porn industry, the porn industry is run almost entirely by men and completely objectifies women as just tits and ass, while also causing boys to grow up with the false assumption that girls are always down to have sex and are only there to serve that purpose for them.

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:26 pm

Shirelands wrote:
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How can porn be bad? It is sexually liberating for women.


"sexually liberating"? while it is a woman's choice to go into the porn industry, the porn industry is run almost entirely by men and completely objectifies women as just tits and ass, while also causing boys to grow up with the false assumption that girls are always down to have sex and are only there to serve that purpose for them.


So...you're complaining that porn only shows women in a sexual manner?


Right...
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Postby Shirelands » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:28 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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"sexually liberating"? while it is a woman's choice to go into the porn industry, the porn industry is run almost entirely by men and completely objectifies women as just tits and ass, while also causing boys to grow up with the false assumption that girls are always down to have sex and are only there to serve that purpose for them.


So...you're complaining that porn only shows women in a sexual manner?


Right...


there are ways of showing the sexuality of women without degrading them.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:29 pm

Libertarian California wrote:So...you're complaining that porn only shows women in a sexual manner?

Right...

I think it should show both men and women in a sexual manner that is more representative of how sex actually is (inb4 lesbians' reaction to lesbian porn).
Hell, oral-on-women shots are far more erotic than anything else in straight porn but it goes largely ignored. Oral-on-men-back-there is hot, but the porn that says okay to it is BDSM-y as if it said that is the only way it could happen, as if it wasn't supposed to be normal. ¬¬
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:30 pm

Shirelands wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
So...you're complaining that porn only shows women in a sexual manner?


Right...


there are ways of showing the sexuality of women without degrading them.


What is degrading about the watersport gangbang of the housewife nextdoor?

They signed up for it, and it's still an honest dollar. So who cares?
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Postby The Flood » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:32 pm

Not misogynistic, no, but it's certainly rude and potentially cruel. I think promiscuity is immoral, but I am not going to spit such derogatory things at a person for any reason.
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Postby Shirelands » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:33 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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there are ways of showing the sexuality of women without degrading them.


What is degrading about the watersport gangbang of the housewife nextdoor?

They signed up for it, and it's still an honest dollar. So who cares?


they individually might be okay with it, but i think the industry contributes to the overall misogynistic environment of society.

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Postby The Holy Calradian Empire » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:34 pm

Shirelands wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
So...you're complaining that porn only shows women in a sexual manner?


Right...


there are ways of showing the sexuality of women without degrading them.


Technically, it also shows men being degraded.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:40 pm

Shirelands wrote:they individually might be okay with it, but i think the industry contributes to the overall misogynistic environment of society.

There are studies that correlate it to reductions in sex crime incidence.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:41 pm

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Postby Shirelands » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:41 pm

The Holy Calradian Empire wrote:
Shirelands wrote:
there are ways of showing the sexuality of women without degrading them.


Technically, it also shows men being degraded.


true, in the sense that they're only being portrayed in a sexual manner. but the men aren't being forced to their knees and ejaculated on.
and if we open up the topic of rape porn....

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:42 pm

The Holy Calradian Empire wrote:Technically, it also shows men being degraded.

Indeed. Our representation in straight porn is as unfair as that of women.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:43 pm

Shirelands wrote:
The Holy Calradian Empire wrote:
Technically, it also shows men being degraded.


true, in the sense that they're only being portrayed in a sexual manner. but the men aren't being forced to their knees and ejaculated on.


There are biological reasons for that. Namely, women cannot shoot semen onto people's faces in the manner men can.

and if we open up the topic of rape porn....


Porn of men getting raped exists, too. If you think all porn is "18 and Abused" and "Bang Bros", then you're mistaken.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:46 pm

Libertarian California wrote:There are biological reasons for that. Namely, women cannot shoot semen onto people's faces in the manner men can.

They may and often do it to men in transfeminine porn though.

Insertive partners often get rimjobs and moneyshots in gay porn (not as much as I would wish but they do).

And truly, it isn't what makes porn bad or dehumanizing.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:48 pm

Shirelands wrote:
The Holy Calradian Empire wrote:
Technically, it also shows men being degraded.


true, in the sense that they're only being portrayed in a sexual manner. but the men aren't being forced to their knees and ejaculated on.
and if we open up the topic of rape porn....

I don't know why you're making this about one particular sex when all active participants in a porn video are basically there to be viewed as sex objects for the viewer to derive pleasure from. The reason why it applies to women more than men is simply because there's a bigger demand for women in porn than vice versa. If you have a problem with porn, don't watch it.
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Postby Shirelands » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:49 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Shirelands wrote:
true, in the sense that they're only being portrayed in a sexual manner. but the men aren't being forced to their knees and ejaculated on.


There are biological reasons for that. Namely, women cannot shoot semen onto people's faces in the manner men can.


lol true, but porn still finishes with the satisfaction of the male while the woman is just to satisfy him....

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:50 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:I don't know why you're making this about one particular sex when all active participants in a porn video are basically there to be viewed as sex objects for the viewer to derive pleasure from. The reason why it applies to women more than men is simply because there's a bigger demand for women in porn than vice versa. If you have a problem with porn, don't watch it.

Or watch porn for people who enjoy homoerotic stuff, where the man isn't just the penis anymore.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:51 pm

Shirelands wrote:lol true, but porn still finishes with the satisfaction of the male while the woman is just to satisfy him....

The hell are you on? I wish.

Straight porn is terrible and annoying for its famous fake orgasms.
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Postby Britain and United Ireland » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:56 pm

The word utterly removes a girl's class, possibly her confidence and her ability to hold her head high.
One would say it is a cruel word, yet it does sound rather amusing if used in the correct manner.

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