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When does the Atheist calendar start?

Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:46 am

Considering how nearly all calendars are based on religion, if you were a militant Atheist, or if you are, what day would you start your Atheist calendar on? If I were Atheist, I would start it at the start of humankind. Keep in mind that YOU are the calendar creator, there are no calendars as of yet.
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Postby Jetan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:50 am

All calenders start from either year 0 or year 1, depending how you want to go about things.
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Postby Bolrieg » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:51 am

the big bang it is the year several billion and something right now

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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:51 am

Jetan wrote:All calenders start from either year 0 or year 1, depending how you want to go about things.


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Postby Giovenith » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:52 am

What?

The calendar we use today was developed by people who happened to be religious, but was not based on anything having to do with religion. Calendars are based around how many times the planet goes around the sun. Christian, Muslim, Zalgoist, atheist, none of that affects how long it takes for Earth to fly through space a few times, though some cultures would rather celebrate New Years at different times. There is no "atheist calendar" because a lack of belief in a god has no impact on how calendars work.
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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:55 am

Giovenith wrote:What?

The calendar we use today was developed by people who happened to be religious, but was not based on anything having to do with religion. Calendars are based around how many times the planet goes around the sun. Christian, Muslim, Zalgoist, atheist, none of that affects how long it takes for Earth to fly through space a few times, though some cultures would rather celebrate New Years at different times. There is no "atheist calendar" because a lack of belief in a god has no impact on how calendars work.


The years. In the Gregorian calendar, AD starts when Christ is born etc. (Actually it was 4AD but never mind)
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Postby Land of the Trolls » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:55 am

An atheist calendar might start with the birthday of Richard Dawkins. :)

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Postby Menassa » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:56 am

Giovenith wrote:What?

The calendar we use today was developed by people who happened to be religious, but was not based on anything having to do with religion. Calendars are based around how many times the planet goes around the sun. Christian, Muslim, Zalgoist, atheist, none of that affects how long it takes for Earth to fly through space a few times, though some cultures would rather celebrate New Years at different times. There is no "atheist calendar" because a lack of belief in a god has no impact on how calendars work.

I think the OP meant the years... for instance it has been 2014 years since the death (or was it birth?) of Jesus Christ.
The OP is flabbergasted at how anyone who calls themselves a militant atheist and despises religion could subscribe to such a calendar, I think he believes it's an incredible contradiction.

Or from what I can tell.
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Postby Flaxxony » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

I would simply stick with Christian calendar because it is unnecessary to change it.

Plus the big bang is worthless for us to comprehend. It is just wasting digits. If anything I wish the year we started on was later so we have fewer numbers. Some people say start it 1440 when Gutenberg made his press (very important for humanity) and others say when the first successful nuclear reaction occurred.

Either way we should really be starting our years on the solstices though. That I think must change. I wish we would have, instead of 12 months, 4 "quarters" of the year, with start dates corresponding with the solstices and equinoxes. Each of these "quarters" would have 91 days (13 weeks) and we would have 364 days a year and the leftover day (or days on a leap year) would just be an extra-calendrial day.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

Current date is fine for start, but BCE and CE I would recommend.

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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

Menassa wrote:
Giovenith wrote:What?

The calendar we use today was developed by people who happened to be religious, but was not based on anything having to do with religion. Calendars are based around how many times the planet goes around the sun. Christian, Muslim, Zalgoist, atheist, none of that affects how long it takes for Earth to fly through space a few times, though some cultures would rather celebrate New Years at different times. There is no "atheist calendar" because a lack of belief in a god has no impact on how calendars work.

I think the OP meant the years... for instance it has been 2014 years since the death (or was it birth?) of Jesus Christ.
The OP is flabbergasted at how anyone who calls themselves a militant atheist and despises religion could subscribe to such a calendar, I think he believes it's an incredible contradiction.

Or from what I can tell.


No it's just a hypothesis.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

It starts a few billion years before the Common Era.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

All calendars are based on scientific observation and maths, that is all I care about with them.

Does it bother Christians that Jesus was born several years BC? Or that several of the days of the week and some months are named after gods from other religions?
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Postby Giovenith » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:57 am

Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
Giovenith wrote:What?

The calendar we use today was developed by people who happened to be religious, but was not based on anything having to do with religion. Calendars are based around how many times the planet goes around the sun. Christian, Muslim, Zalgoist, atheist, none of that affects how long it takes for Earth to fly through space a few times, though some cultures would rather celebrate New Years at different times. There is no "atheist calendar" because a lack of belief in a god has no impact on how calendars work.


The years. In the Gregorian calendar, AD starts when Christ is born etc. (Actually it was 4AD but never mind)


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Postby Menassa » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:58 am

Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
Menassa wrote:I think the OP meant the years... for instance it has been 2014 years since the death (or was it birth?) of Jesus Christ.
The OP is flabbergasted at how anyone who calls themselves a militant atheist and despises religion could subscribe to such a calendar, I think he believes it's an incredible contradiction.

Or from what I can tell.


No it's just a hypothesis.

Does that negate my interpretation of what you said?
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Postby The USOT » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:58 am

Bit of a weird question, but I get what you mean.

I suppose I would start the calendar like you suggested from the beggining of Human history.
Or something akin to the Mayan calendar with cycles. Every thousand years just make a new cycle so we do not have to write something akin to "March 2nd 10,000". If we did a cycle system we could short hand go "March 2nd 14" or for more important documents "C10 March 2nd 14"
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Postby Menassa » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:59 am

Kelinfort wrote:Current date is fine for start, but BCE and CE I would recommend.

Heck, I'm Jewish and use AD/BC usually...
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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:59 am

Menassa wrote:
Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
No it's just a hypothesis.

Does that negate my interpretation of what you said?


I don't really understand what you said. It doesn't matter anymore.
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Postby Menassa » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:00 am

Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
Menassa wrote:Does that negate my interpretation of what you said?


I don't really understand what you said. It doesn't matter anymore.

Perhaps you should read it again, before responding to it.

If you still have any questions, you could always ask me.
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Postby Flaxxony » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:00 am

I would really vote for the beginning of the nuclear era for two reasons.

1) It was an enormous step forward into completely different territory for us and

2) Ironically, it signaled the end of being able to reliably date the years after it with carbon dating.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:02 am

I still demand a metric calendar 31, 30, 28, days and 12 months is so American


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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:02 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:All calendars are based on scientific observation and maths, that is all I care about with them.

Does it bother Christians that Jesus was born several years BCAD? Or that several of the days of the week and some months are named after gods from other religions?


Fixed.
No it doesn't bother them.
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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:03 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:I still demand a metric calendar 31, 30, 28, days and 12 months is so American


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That actually sounds like a good idea. A metric calendar...
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Postby Flaxxony » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:04 am

Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:I still demand a metric calendar 31, 30, 28, days and 12 months is so American


sarcasm


That actually sounds like a good idea. A metric calendar...


Metric calendar is not even possible

Plus base 10 sucks base 12 is the shit

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Postby The USOT » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:04 am

Menassa wrote:
Polski Swiety Imperium wrote:
No it's just a hypothesis.

Does that negate my interpretation of what you said?

No, but it seems a tad mean spirited to presume that. I mean the last part in particular should be how the question is framed "there are no calendars as of yet." There is no need to attack his motives, nor does it help any conversation.
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