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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:13 am
by Asigna
Dahon wrote:I'm sorry, but where was I being an ideological twit?

In retrospect, my previous posts might reflect an anti-Chinese bias when I've also said before that we could warm up to China without pissing off the Americans as Duterte has done -- but I'm entirely lost as to what you mean.


Our cognitive biases must not fool us. We cannot deny that China is a viable trading partner despite its human rights abuses. In the world of business, we have to become pragmatic and get as many inflows of cash as we could. Nation above all.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:15 am
by Dahon
Asigna wrote:Our cognitive biases must not fool us. We cannot deny that China is a viable trading partner despite its human rights abuses. In the world of business, we have to become pragmatic and get as many inflows of cash as we could. Nation above all.


That I can understand.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:25 am
by The Posthuman Coalition
Asigna wrote:
Dahon wrote:I'm sorry, but where was I being an ideological twit?

In retrospect, my previous posts might reflect an anti-Chinese bias when I've also said before that we could warm up to China without pissing off the Americans as Duterte has done -- but I'm entirely lost as to what you mean.


Our cognitive biases must not fool us. We cannot deny that China is a viable trading partner despite its human rights abuses. In the world of business, we have to become pragmatic and get as many inflows of cash as we could. Nation above all.


Bless you, tosvarishch. (means comrade in Russian)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:47 am
by Minoa
Backing source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37515892

Blatant flame-bait considering current events, especially in light of the death of Shimon Peres, who had to flee Poland when he was young to escape the then escalating persecution (source: NPR).

–– Minoa

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:15 am
by Great Kauthar
Minoa wrote:Backing source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37515892

Blatant flame-bait considering current events, especially in light of the death of Shimon Peres, who had to flee Poland when he was young to escape the then escalating persecution (source: NPR).

–– Minoa

the madman can't be stopped. Please tell me there is no term limit in the Philippines?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:27 am
by Novus America
Asigna wrote:
Dahon wrote:I'm sorry, but where was I being an ideological twit?

In retrospect, my previous posts might reflect an anti-Chinese bias when I've also said before that we could warm up to China without pissing off the Americans as Duterte has done -- but I'm entirely lost as to what you mean.


Our cognitive biases must not fool us. We cannot deny that China is a viable trading partner despite its human rights abuses. In the world of business, we have to become pragmatic and get as many inflows of cash as we could. Nation above all.


Their human rights is less a concern than their imperialism.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:33 am
by Novus America
Isyrannaea wrote:
Dahon wrote:
Why?

He has a solution to the drug problem. And it's a good solution.


No, it is not a good one. The war on drugs thing mostly just gets you dead bodies. But drugs continue. Take the Swiss approach, treat it like a medical problem. An approach that actually works without massive numbers dead.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:55 am
by Minoa
Great Kauthar wrote:
Minoa wrote:Backing source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37515892

Blatant flame-bait considering current events, especially in light of the death of Shimon Peres, who had to flee Poland when he was young to escape the then escalating persecution (source: NPR).

–– Minoa

the madman can't be stopped. Please tell me there is no term limit in the Philippines?

Six years, unrenewable, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid, because six years is long.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:33 am
by Geilinor
Minoa wrote:Backing source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37515892

Blatant flame-bait considering current events, especially in light of the death of Shimon Peres, who had to flee Poland when he was young to escape the then escalating persecution (source: NPR).

–– Minoa

The fuck, Duterte? Hitler isn't as infamous in Asia as he is in the West, but come on.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:33 am
by Asigna
Novus America wrote:
Asigna wrote:
Our cognitive biases must not fool us. We cannot deny that China is a viable trading partner despite its human rights abuses. In the world of business, we have to become pragmatic and get as many inflows of cash as we could. Nation above all.


Their human rights is less a concern than their imperialism.

I have a hunch that you may be over estimating their level of malevolence. China is just like everybody else, they want nothing more than prosperity for their nation and China is also on top of a house of cards, one wrong move abroad and the party's rule will falter.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:59 pm
by Great Kauthar
Minoa wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:the madman can't be stopped. Please tell me there is no term limit in the Philippines?

Six years, unrenewable, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid, because six years is long.

;-;
only six years of the madman

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:08 pm
by Seylland
Great Kauthar wrote:
Minoa wrote:Six years, unrenewable, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid, because six years is long.

;-;
only six years of the madman

Six years is enough time for some nasty shit to happen. The nasty populist scapegoating will not help the Filipino people as well as hinder economic growth/investments due to the rhetoric of Du30.

#LahadDatuNeverForget
#RemoveAbuSayyaf
#KonfrontasiMkIIElectricBoogaloo

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:11 pm
by Great Kauthar
Seylland wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:;-;
only six years of the madman

Six years is enough time for some nasty shit to happen. The nasty populist scapegoating will not help the Filipino people as well as hinder economic growth/investments due to the rhetoric of Du30.

#LahadDatuNeverForget
#RemoveAbuSayyaf
#KonfrontasiMkIIElectricBoogaloo

Duterte will wipe out Abu Sayyaf.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:16 pm
by Seylland
Great Kauthar wrote:
Seylland wrote:Six years is enough time for some nasty shit to happen. The nasty populist scapegoating will not help the Filipino people as well as hinder economic growth/investments due to the rhetoric of Du30.

#LahadDatuNeverForget
#RemoveAbuSayyaf
#KonfrontasiMkIIElectricBoogaloo

Duterte will wipe out Abu Sayyaf.

And yet too much focus is being sent to drugs to warrant any attention to Abu Sayyaf.

Vows are empty unless one acts upon them.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:17 pm
by Novus America
Asigna wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Their human rights is less a concern than their imperialism.

I have a hunch that you may be over estimating their level of malevolence. China is just like everybody else, they want nothing more than prosperity for their nation and China is also on top of a house of cards, one wrong move abroad and the party's rule will falter.


The parties rule is absolutely secure. It is not house of cards, it is a fortress. And explain then what China is doing in the SCS?
It not that they are malevolent per se. Just that the still have the Middle Kingdom attitude.

Plus see Russia. If their economy continues to slow they will probably turn to war to maintain popularity. Russia prefers conflict over prosperity.

The Chinese government is just a bully and opportunist. They will push until they meet resistance.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:47 pm
by Dahon
Great Kauthar wrote:the madman can't be stopped. Please tell me there is no term limit in the Philippines?


You're... proud? Proud? What?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:49 pm
by Seylland
Dahon wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:the madman can't be stopped. Please tell me there is no term limit in the Philippines?


You're... proud? Proud? What?

Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:04 pm
by Antarkreich
I don't know much about the Philippines, but your president's a real human being and a real hero.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:04 pm
by Victoriala II
Seylland wrote:
Dahon wrote:
You're... proud? Proud? What?

Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:05 pm
by Victoriala II
Antarkreich wrote:real human being and a real hero.


S Y N T H W A V E

M E M E S

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:05 pm
by Seylland
Victoriala II wrote:
Seylland wrote:Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

What if Duterte is the Antichrist.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:10 pm
by Dahon
Antarkreich wrote:I don't know much about the Philippines, but your president's a real human being and a real hero.


Real human being? Without a doubt.

Real... hero? I'm sorry, but what?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:12 pm
by The Republic of Pantalleria
Dahon wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Most likely, I hope not, but most likely.
In which case I'll try to instigate and influence a People Power Revolution to get him out.


Look, I don't like how the Duterte administration is trying everything it can to please the Chinese (and I'm utterly mystified as to their motives in reaching out to Putin's Russia), but realignment in itself is not grounds for... Lord Almighty, another People Power?

Jesus. Can we not stick with constitutional prerogatives and let Duterte finish his term? If what Duterte is doing with the drug situation will in effect discredit this nation's already tottering institutions, ousting him will be more of that same.

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:He's also selling the Philippines to the illegal and illegitimate Chinese Government, what's your point?


No, no he isn't. (And let's not play the ideological game, please.)


What do you mean: 'No he isn't'?
Whatever happened to his jet ski to the West Philippine Sea, now he's talking of an ending to the American wargames because CHINA DOESN'T LIKE IT? How is that not the first signs of selling us to the illegal and Illegitimate Chinese Government?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:13 pm
by The Republic of Pantalleria
Seylland wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

What if Duterte is the Antichrist.


I'd be more worried of Trump being the anti-Christ if anything.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:15 pm
by Victoriala II
Seylland wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

What if Duterte is the Antichrist.

We aren't the new Zion don't believe that Iglesian claptrap