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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/ath ... ape_r.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... n/4180963/

Horrific event, but not really a surprise. Alabama has historically been known as being an unstable and backwards area of the world, with pathetic law enforcement and a strong sexist society. To be honest, this is quite prevalent in America. It's unfortunate that life in the country is not easy for women, and being European doesn't make you a smaller target for abuses like this.

I would personally recommend economic sanctions on America until they can punish their rapists. However, it'll take something shocking as a famous foreign woman being raped by Americans to get the government off its ass.

Honestly at this point I seriously have to ask what the hell she was doing in America in the first place. I mean it's not like she is the first person to be raped or worse out there. And don't get me wrong. I am not blaming the victim here. All I am saying is that maybe if people stopped living there the impact on their economy would put some extra leverage on their government to grow up and step out of the middle ages. As small as that chance may be.

Why do people keep going to America, again? It's not like there's much to see there. A few sports stars, a big mountain. Everything else is a mid-modern first to third world jumble of slums and several shiny buildings. Not to mention all the rape and gun violence.

But perhaps one day these countries will finally become civilised. What do you say, NSG?

This is horrible, but I like the satire of the India thread.

This thread. I love you so much.

That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

This, basically.

Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

What's happening in India is hardly more of a trend than the number of rape incidents in America.

Geilinor wrote:

Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

What's happening in India is hardly more of a trend than the number of rape incidents in America.

I'm not entirely sure on that, I haven't read much into it, but from what I've heard and seen, it seems like there's a serious trend in India. I'd really like to see sources.

Either way, this thread just seems like pointless, bitter nationalism that would have been better confined to the legit India Rape Thread as an argument rather than a thread.

The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

Frisivisia wrote:

Geilinor wrote:What's happening in India is hardly more of a trend than the number of rape incidents in America.

I'm not entirely sure on that, I haven't read much into it, but from what I've heard and seen, it seems like there's a serious trend in India. I'd really like to see sources.

Either way, this thread just seems like pointless, bitter nationalism that would have been better confined to the legit India Rape Thread as an argument rather than a thread.

Ignoring the satire element, rape is an issue that deserves to be discussed.

Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

I absolutely agree with you. America really needs to shape up it's standards, considering the danger to women in New York City versus the safety of New Delhi.

"The Delhi region had 495 murders in 2007, or 2.95 murders for every 100,000 people by the National Crime Records Bureau’s population estimates. In that same year, however, New York City had 5.94 murders per 100,000 people — and that was a year that New York City was named the safest big city in the United States. There’s a similar story for rape in 2007: 3.57 per 100,000 in New Delhi, 10.48 per 100,000 in New York."

It's really disheartening that a country with a rich culture and history like the United States suffers from such basic issues.

European Socialist Republic wrote:The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

Bomb Ottawa.

Is this satire...?

I agree with Nightkill. The international community should initiate economic sanctions against the US until they reform their justice system to be in line with world standards.

I don't really think you can compare India and the US in terms of crime, India is waaaay more barbaric and crime ridden than the US. I am not saying the US is perfect but its a lot safer than India.

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:

Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

I absolutely agree with you. America really needs to shape up it's standards, considering the danger to women in New York City versus the safety of New Delhi.

"The Delhi region had 495 murders in 2007, or 2.95 murders for every 100,000 people by the National Crime Records Bureau’s population estimates. In that same year, however, New York City had 5.94 murders per 100,000 people — and that was a year that New York City was named the safest big city in the United States. There’s a similar story for rape in 2007: 3.57 per 100,000 in New Delhi, 10.48 per 100,000 in New York."

It's really disheartening that a country with a rich culture and history like the United States suffers from such basic issues.

That's very nice for another thread and I'm sure there's plenty of sources out there beyond two New Yorkers who moved to Delhi and in no way could have had an unusual or fractured view of the situation.

What you should do when you lose/get annoyed in a debate in the future is post a bitter, sarcastic thread outlining your own argument and aggressively pursue anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You ( OP) Seem to be neglecting the Mass Amount of Rapes in India as well as the Honor killings

Imperial City-States wrote:You ( OP) Seem to be neglecting the Mass Amount of Rapes in India as well as the Honor killings

*cough*

European Socialist Republic wrote:The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

And install a democracy.

Genivaria wrote:

European Socialist Republic wrote:The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

And install a democracy.

We've put up with the scourge of Obammunism for five years too long.

Genivaria wrote:

European Socialist Republic wrote:The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

And install a democracy.

Why? Wouldn't it be better to install a right-wing dictator we can count on?

Genivaria wrote:

European Socialist Republic wrote:The only logical solution is to invade the USA.

And install a democracy.

Well considering America was founded as a Republic at first and has De-volved to a Democratic Republic . Plus the US has the Best Military in the world , take your best shot

Luveria wrote:

Genivaria wrote:And install a democracy.

Why? Wouldn't it be better to install a right-wing dictator we can count on?

Worked pretty well with Bush, didn't it?

Frisivisia wrote:

Luveria wrote:
Why? Wouldn't it be better to install a right-wing dictator we can count on?

Worked pretty well with Bush, didn't it?

Luveria wrote:

Genivaria wrote:And install a democracy.

Why? Wouldn't it be better to install a right-wing dictator we can count on?

The United Mexican States of PeñaNietonia!

Luveria wrote:I agree with Nightkill. The international community should initiate economic sanctions against the US until they reform their justice system to be in line with world standards.

It'll be difficult considering there are entire regions that appear to be very weakly under government control.

Indeed, there were even threats to international observers during the 2012 elections.