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Should gay marriage be allowed?

Yes- It is essential to human rights
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63%
Yes- Why not?
57
20%
No- A marriage is between a man and a woman
31
11%
No- God disapproves of this
6
2%
Indifferent
13
4%
 
Total votes : 290
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:06 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.


Humanity is unique, like everything else. Every species, every organism, every cell is at least slightly unique. I believe we weren't created by a entity or deity.

And it's true. We're all and each just one in seven billion.


Why did other animals not develop cognitive abilities over the past hundreds of thousands of years? Humanity is unique.
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:07 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Humanity is unique, like everything else. Every species, every organism, every cell is at least slightly unique. I believe we weren't created by a entity or deity.

And it's true. We're all and each just one in seven billion.


Why did other animals not develop cognitive abilities over the past hundreds of thousands of years? Humanity is unique.

Define cognitive abilities.
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:07 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Says natural selection, biology, etc.


I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.

I was
Around for evolution that is.
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:08 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.

I was
Around for evolution that is.

Still on-going. Quite easy to prove, too.
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:08 pm

Divair wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.

The fuck did I just read.


You read the truth, sir, tough it may baffle some.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:09 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Says natural selection, biology, etc.


I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.


We are only unique as a tape worm or an E. Coli Bacterium is unique.
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:09 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Humanity is unique, like everything else. Every species, every organism, every cell is at least slightly unique. I believe we weren't created by a entity or deity.

And it's true. We're all and each just one in seven billion.


Why did other animals not develop cognitive abilities over the past hundreds of thousands of years? Humanity is unique.


Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why didn't we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Divair wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:I wasn't around when evolution occurred, nor can I prove it. But do you value yourself enough to say that you were created unique? That humanity is a unique race created by a superior entity?
Biology, though very accomplished in some topics, is a cynical way of basing your life around: accepting that you're just one in 7 billion.

The fuck did I just read.

This is indeed a frequently re-occuring reaction while reading NSG. :lol2:
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Divair wrote:The fuck did I just read.


You read the truth, sir, tough it may baffle some.

If by "truth" you mean "subjective nonsense that sounds like it came from a 13 year old who hasn't studied middle school biology".
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Divair wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:I was
Around for evolution that is.

Still on-going. Quite easy to prove, too.

Ugh, I know right?
Could you do me a huge favor and link up your wonderful evolution-proving post? The one with like a hundred sources?

I'd do it myself but Im on my iPhone
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Divair wrote:The fuck did I just read.


You read the truth, sir, tough it may baffle some.


The truth seems very anthro-centric, considering that this planet is but a speck in the universe.
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:11 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Divair wrote:Still on-going. Quite easy to prove, too.

Ugh, I know right?
Could you do me a huge favor and link up your wonderful evolution-proving post? The one with like a hundred sources?

I'd do it myself but Im on my iPhone

Yes.

Yes I could.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:11 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Divair wrote:The fuck did I just read.


You read the truth, sir, tough it may baffle some.

Just because you can't prove evolution doesn't mean more competent people can't.

Or didn't.

Besides that, I remain unfazed by your proposition. What you physically are or aren't has nothing to do with how important you think you are.

It's why the Nazis lost at the Olympics.
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:11 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
Why did other animals not develop cognitive abilities over the past hundreds of thousands of years? Humanity is unique.


Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why did we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.


I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -Aristotle
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:12 pm

Divair wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Ugh, I know right?
Could you do me a huge favor and link up your wonderful evolution-proving post? The one with like a hundred sources?

I'd do it myself but Im on my iPhone

Yes.

Yes I could.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms

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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:13 pm

Sweet!
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:13 pm

Divair wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Ugh, I know right?
Could you do me a huge favor and link up your wonderful evolution-proving post? The one with like a hundred sources?

I'd do it myself but Im on my iPhone

Yes.

Yes I could.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


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Postby Saint Kitten » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:13 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why did we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.


I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.

I love how people still take that seriously :lol2:
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:13 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why did we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.


I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.

Indeed, nature has yet too purge us from the gene pool like the dodo.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Poll: 85% of NSG for
15$ against

Error Rate: 5%

^
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90% For

8% Tarred and Feathered

1% Youareallgoingtoohell

1% Evangelist Christians who don't care

0.001% Hippo, somehow


Hippo can't constitute that much... Can he?
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why did we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.


I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.


Ok, and?

Religion isn't exactly an impressive thing.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why did we develop weak survival skills and traits? Why didn't we develop extreme speed like a Cheeda? Why not strength like a bear? Why did we develop to survive to live under water?

Each species is unique.


I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.


Don't know, have you ever asked a dog about their religious beliefs?
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:15 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.


Don't know, have you ever asked a dog about their religious beliefs?

No, but a cat once knocked on my door and attempted to convert me to Meowmonism.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:15 pm

I thought Chris Christie said at one stage that he wouldn't oppose attempts to legalise same sex marriage. I must have been wrong.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:15 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
I agree with you very much so.
However, humanity is the only species who created the idea of 'religion'.


Don't know, have you ever asked a dog about their religious beliefs?

No one ever asks the Kittehs Be Saved!
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