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Greek Leftist murdered by Golden Dawn Members

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:10 am
by Altarak
Sources:Here and Here

"Greek police are investigating the stabbing death of a 34-year-old hip-hop artist that leftist groups said was killed by a gang of neo-Nazi Golden Dawn members who critics say travel in packs to assault immigrants and their perceived foes.

There are contradicting reports as to what happened to lead to the murder of Pavlos Fyssas, an anti-fascist who died early on Sept. 18 after a confrontation said to have been started by an argument at a cafe over a soccer match between Olympiakos and Paris St. Germain.

Police said they had arrested a 45-year-old Golden Dawn member for the killing but didn’t reveal his name. They raided Golden Dawn’s offices later in the morning and said the suspect confessed to the killing and being a member of the neo-Nazis.

Golden Dawn immediately denied any connection, but the incident inflamed tension just as a 48-hour general strike was underway by labor unions angry over austerity measures and the coming of scores of thousands of public workers.

Police said the suspect left the cafe but returned and attacked the victim with a gang, overwhelming him.

It was reported he told them the name of his attacker before losing consciousness while being taken to the hospital where he died shortly thereafter. Fyssas had been part of the Greek hip-hop scene since 1997 and performed under the name Killah P.

Speaking on SKAI radio, Keratsini Mayor Loukas Tzannis also said the death was started by an altercation at the cafe and that witnesses identified the gang as Golden Dawn members. Tzannis also said that Fyssas’s attackers were members of the far right.

The anti-capitalist party ANTARSYA and the Communist Party condemned the incident, blaming Golden Dawn for the victim’s death and claiming that Fyssas was targeted because of his anti-fascists activity.

Petros Constantinou, a spokesman for ANTARSYA, alleged that there had been no quarreling prior to the incident, but that a group of anti-fascists were attacked by about 40 members of Golden Dawn outside the cafe.

He also claimed on SKAI radio that the attack occurred in the presence of Dias police units who watched and did nothing. Golden Dawn is believed to have links to the police and with many sympathizers in law enforcement.

Golden Dawn MP Ilias Kasidiaris, whose parliamentary immunity has been stripped so he can be tried on criminal charges, denied his party’s involvement in the incident and said that the party would respond with lawsuits. He told SKAI that there were no political motives behind the attack and that opponents were unjustly accusing the party of creating “a climate of polarization and war”."


In my opinion, this is unacceptable if true. Golden Dawn, known for her fascist and far-right policies has always been the center of attention with many of her actions, but political murder? This takes the whole thing on a new level and I hope the greek police and people wont tolerate this and see the true face of this political party.

So NSG, what is your opinion?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:25 am
by Divair
Party based on violence commits violence. Surprise.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:25 am
by Resora
It's only going to escalate.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:26 am
by Souseiseki
Altarak wrote:
In my opinion, this is unacceptable if true. Golden Dawn, known for her fascist and far-right policies has always been the center of attention with many of her actions, but political murder? This takes the whole thing on a new level and I hope the greek police and people wont tolerate this and see the true face of this political party.

So NSG, what is your opinion?


new level? street thuggery, murder, intimidation and general violence has been one of the defining tenets of fascism for, well, ever. it's probably one of the few things people can actually agree on. it's natural progression.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:27 am
by Arumdaum
Not really surprised, to be honest, but pretty disgusting either way.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:33 am
by Camelza
The nazis are doomed now, they're going to lose all of their right-wing conservative voters that voted them as a protest.
In my city, the protest voters of G.D already took over the regional offices of the party and asked their representative to leave the parliamentary group of the party.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:41 am
by DrakoBlaria
This happened right next to where I live and there is going to be a protest in the afternoon. Lets hope leftists don't go get revenge and that their threats remain on the web. Last thing we need is a civil war in the area.

Also, it wasn't just 1 44 year old man attacking Paulos with a knife. From what I've heard there were like 20 of them and Pavlos was with a girl at the time.

Dias was near the area but there were only 3 of them and they claim they couldn't do anything against 20 people. Of course many protest and say they should have used their guns....

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:43 am
by Camelza
DrakoBlaria wrote:This happened right next to where I live and there is going to be a protest in the afternoon. Lets hope leftists don't go get revenge and that their threats remain on the web. Last thing we need is a civil war in the area

Civil war, pheh! ...Golden Dawn doesn't have the manpower you think it has fasce, just unstable protest voters.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:45 am
by DrakoBlaria
Camelza wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:This happened right next to where I live and there is going to be a protest in the afternoon. Lets hope leftists don't go get revenge and that their threats remain on the web. Last thing we need is a civil war in the area

Civil war, pheh! ...Golden Dawn doesn't have the manpower you think it has fasce, just unstable protest voters.


And how does this stop stupid people from killing each other?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:45 am
by Altarak
Divair wrote:Party based on violence commits violence. Surprise.

Political Murder.

This shit has to take place in Greece since the '50s.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:46 am
by DrakoBlaria
Altarak wrote:
Divair wrote:Party based on violence commits violence. Surprise.

Political Murder.

This shit has to take place in Greece since the '50s.


Emm no, not really.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:47 am
by Altarak
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Altarak wrote:Political Murder.

This shit has to take place in Greece since the '50s.


Emm no, not really.

'60s ok maybe '70s

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:47 am
by Divair
Altarak wrote:
Divair wrote:Party based on violence commits violence. Surprise.

Political Murder.

This shit has to take place in Greece since the '50s.

Lovely place.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:48 am
by DrakoBlaria
Altarak wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Emm no, not really.

'60s ok maybe '70s


It certainly happened this decade. And I recall extermesists killing an Albanian rapper in the area a couple of years ago

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:49 am
by Camelza
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Camelza wrote:Civil war, pheh! ...Golden Dawn doesn't have the manpower you think it has fasce, just unstable protest voters.

And how does this stop stupid people from killing each other?

A war means two opposing armies and I just can't see nowhere G.D paramilitaries to pose a threat.
If anything violent happens it will be a butchery of nazis(which of course, I don't approve).

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:50 am
by Camelza
Altarak wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Emm no, not really.

'60s ok maybe '70s

1989

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:50 am
by Altarak
DrakoBlaria wrote:
Altarak wrote:'60s ok maybe '70s


It certainly happened this decade. And I recall extermesists killing an Albanian rapper in the area a couple of years ago

Anyways, Dendias (for those who dont know, Minister of Citizens Security or something I cant remember the title exactly) has ordered a full scalle search of all Golden Dawn offices in Attica while all political parties except for GD ofcourse, have expressed their disguist.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:52 am
by Ayreonia
Camelza wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:And how does this stop stupid people from killing each other?

A war means two opposing armies and I just can't see nowhere G.D paramilitaries to pose a threat.
If anything violent happens it will be a butchery of nazis(which of course, I don't approve).

That'll send the right message.

"You killed one of our guys, now we're going to butcher all of you!"

Lovely.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:53 am
by DrakoBlaria
Altarak wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:
It certainly happened this decade. And I recall extermesists killing an Albanian rapper in the area a couple of years ago

Anyways, Dendias (for those who dont know, Minister of Citizens Security or something I cant remember the title exactly) has ordered a full scalle search of all Golden Dawn offices in Attica while all political parties except for GD ofcourse, have expressed their disguist.


Well, an illegal search of G.Dawn offices happened a couple of days ago when an other attack (No casuallities) happened in Perama (an area right next to where the murder happened)>

They don't expect to find anything. And G.Dawn has also expressed its disgust to the iccident saying it condems every form of violence. It also sais that party had nothing to do with it and that other political parties use this in a shameless attempt to steal votes.

The thing is that the 44 year old man confessed he is a G.Dawn supporter and that he killed him cause they were insulting each othera little while before the murder

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:53 am
by Altarak
Ayreonia wrote:
Camelza wrote:A war means two opposing armies and I just can't see nowhere G.D paramilitaries to pose a threat.
If anything violent happens it will be a butchery of nazis(which of course, I don't approve).

That'll send the right message.

"You killed one of our guys, now we're going to butcher all of you!"

Lovely.

It has happened before with tragic results

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:55 am
by Camelza
Ayreonia wrote:
Camelza wrote:A war means two opposing armies and I just can't see nowhere G.D paramilitaries to pose a threat.
If anything violent happens it will be a butchery of nazis(which of course, I don't approve).

That'll send the right message.

"You killed one of our guys, now we're going to butcher all of you!"

Lovely.

"if". It won't happen, the Communist party is a serious political parliamentary party(except from their policies and way of talking, but whatever) and Syriza are pacifist pinko-socialists.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:55 am
by DrakoBlaria
Ayreonia wrote:
Camelza wrote:A war means two opposing armies and I just can't see nowhere G.D paramilitaries to pose a threat.
If anything violent happens it will be a butchery of nazis(which of course, I don't approve).

That'll send the right message.

"You killed one of our guys, now we're going to butcher all of you!"

Lovely.


As I said, many leftists are threatening via the internet and there is going to be a protest in the street where the murder occured (it is a main street filled with stores)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:56 am
by DrakoBlaria
Altarak wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:That'll send the right message.

"You killed one of our guys, now we're going to butcher all of you!"

Lovely.

It has happened before with tragic results


Emm no... don't, just don't

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:56 am
by The IASM
Can adjust create the Ottoman Empire again and just exterminate those nazis please?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:56 am
by Disserbia
Divair wrote:
Altarak wrote:Political Murder.

This shit has to take place in Greece since the '50s.

Lovely place.

Lovely post.