They've learned. Or maybe not and Russia will get to play the guerrilla war game this time.
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by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:46 pm
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:49 pm
by Divair » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:51 pm
Shofercia wrote:Divair wrote:Assad giving up land and forcing neighboring countries to form Kurdistan. Coming to a cinema near you. Summer 2014.
Who said he has to care about neighboring countries? Iran has their Kurds in check, Iraqi Kurdistan is autonomous, and Syria doesn't care about Turkey. As for giving up land, well, he doesn't exactly control most of Kurdish Land, so it's not like he'll be giving it up.
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:52 pm
Divair wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Who said he has to care about neighboring countries? Iran has their Kurds in check, Iraqi Kurdistan is autonomous, and Syria doesn't care about Turkey. As for giving up land, well, he doesn't exactly control most of Kurdish Land, so it's not like he'll be giving it up.
God, you people have no sense of humour.
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:55 pm
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:58 pm
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:02 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:03 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:04 pm
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:05 pm
by Luveria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:06 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Luveria wrote:I don't think Russia has forgotten their last adventure in Afghanistan.
Russia was dragged into Afghanistan due to its obligations as an ally to the PDPA. Initially however Moscow was reluctant, some Soviet leaders as well as diplomats had their criticisms of the behaviour of what the PDPA regime was utilising on religious institutions.
However al-Qaeda was launching occasional skirmishes on Afghanistan border areas with the USSR during the time too. The threat of the Afghan conflict spilling over into the Soviet Union, which was quintessentially what Brzezinsky wanted, forced the Soviets to intervene.
However they were not forced out, before they left, Operation Magistral was launched, a sweeping operational success against the al-Qaeda insurgents.
Let us not forget the Russians of today have T-90MS main battle tank beasts, Sukhoi PAK FA stealth fighters, 9-123M Kristanthema tank destroyers, BMPTs, BTR-Ts, as well as an eventual T-99 marvel. These are designed for all forms of combat, including being well defended against possible insurgent attacks.
The T-90MS was designed especially with this idea in mind.
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:06 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Or maybe Russia would actually look up and see who has popular support this time around, and force Assad to compromise with Kurds, et al.
You do realise Syria armed the PKK with Iranian help, whilst the current Assad is actually increasingly on good terms with the YPG? Both are increasingly coming closer together. Read Kurdish sites to better learn just how vile the FSA was to Rojava that the YPG went from neutral to all out war with all insurgents.
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:10 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:12 pm
Shofercia wrote:Souriya Al-Assad wrote:You do realise Syria armed the PKK with Iranian help, whilst the current Assad is actually increasingly on good terms with the YPG? Both are increasingly coming closer together. Read Kurdish sites to better learn just how vile the FSA was to Rojava that the YPG went from neutral to all out war with all insurgents.
That's good. Less people to fight. Do you have links to Kurdish websites, (without gory images,) in English?
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:12 pm
Luveria wrote:Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Russia was dragged into Afghanistan due to its obligations as an ally to the PDPA. Initially however Moscow was reluctant, some Soviet leaders as well as diplomats had their criticisms of the behaviour of what the PDPA regime was utilising on religious institutions.
However al-Qaeda was launching occasional skirmishes on Afghanistan border areas with the USSR during the time too. The threat of the Afghan conflict spilling over into the Soviet Union, which was quintessentially what Brzezinsky wanted, forced the Soviets to intervene.
However they were not forced out, before they left, Operation Magistral was launched, a sweeping operational success against the al-Qaeda insurgents.
Let us not forget the Russians of today have T-90MS main battle tank beasts, Sukhoi PAK FA stealth fighters, 9-123M Kristanthema tank destroyers, BMPTs, BTR-Ts, as well as an eventual T-99 marvel. These are designed for all forms of combat, including being well defended against possible insurgent attacks.
The T-90MS was designed especially with this idea in mind.
My point is, counter-insurgency warfare drags on for years, because it's against an irregular and decentralized enemy with no simple way to defeat it. The Soviets learned that the hard way. The US populace is war-weary for the same reasons, having learned from Iraq.
by Shofercia » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:15 pm
by Divair » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:17 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:I suppose I could rearrange the signature somehow. I shall reflect upon it.
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