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Dear all other nations!

After reading a report in an austrian magazine about 5 possible scenarios concerning the future of the EU, I decided to ask for your opinion.

The full report is only available at http://www.cap.lmu.de/download/2003/2003_cap_szenarien.pdf , only in german, sorry.

It basically defines 5 scenarios for the european future.

1) total fail of the idea, dangerous
2) core states with soe cooperating states
3) like it is now
4) more integration of other states, some form a core region
5) superpower europe, United States of Europe, ...

At least its the largest region in the world, if you measure the GDP (http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/222901/umfrage/bruttoinlandsprodukt-bip-in-der-europaeischen-union-eu/)

Next Washington wrote:5) superpower europe, United States of Europe, ...

5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

Nope, it'll split in half and the Germans will briefly take France before America rides in, saves the day, and gets 50 brand new states.

Risottia wrote:

Next Washington wrote:5) superpower europe, United States of Europe, ...

5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

in this report also a possible expansion into north africa and to the east coast of the mediterranean sea wasn't excluded, what do you think about that?

Next Washington wrote:

Risottia wrote:
5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

in this report also a possible expansion into north africa and to the east coast of the mediterranean sea wasn't excluded, what do you think about that?

Not gonna happen, except for Turkey.

Risottia wrote:

Next Washington wrote:5) superpower europe, United States of Europe, ...

5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

^This.

Who knows what it'll be called. Doubt the USE. EU works as a name.

I'm guessing it'll vary around a point of being about where it is now. But that's a huge guess.

Risottia wrote:

Next Washington wrote:5) superpower europe, United States of Europe, ...

5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

Hopefully 5.
I wouldn't rule out the med-expansion proposals. Not this century, but one day maybe.

Genivaria wrote:

Risottia wrote:
5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

Nah.

Let's call it something that will truly piss off eurosceptics while pointing out what it actually is, say, for example...

"Freedomland".

Arglorand wrote:

Genivaria wrote:How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

Nah.

Let's call it something that will truly piss off eurosceptics while pointing out what it actually is, say, for example...

"Freedomland".

Why don't we just be done with it and call it the Terran Empire.
To make all the other nations go "uhhh..."
Especially if we colonize off-world and refer to them as "The rebels." (But never actually go to war.)

Arglorand wrote:

Genivaria wrote:How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

Nah.

Let's call it something that will truly piss off eurosceptics while pointing out what it actually is, say, for example...

"Freedomland".

That sounds like something American Nationalists would use.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Arglorand wrote:Nah.

Let's call it something that will truly piss off eurosceptics while pointing out what it actually is, say, for example...

"Freedomland".

Why don't we just be done with it and call it the Terran Empire.
To make all the other nations go "uhhh..."

You have my approval.

Genivaria wrote:

Arglorand wrote:Nah.

Let's call it something that will truly piss off eurosceptics while pointing out what it actually is, say, for example...

"Freedomland".

That sounds like something American Nationalists would use.

It was also a dig at them as well.

But I also approve of Ostroeuropa's Terran Empire idea.

Genivaria wrote:

Risottia wrote:
5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

"European Federation"? no, that has a very bad, communist/autocratic attitude to me...

Bloody seppo's, STOP CALLING IT THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE!

Its the European Union, EU, so when it federates, It'll be called the EUROPEAN FEDERATION, the EF

Its not America, its Europe, stop calling it "America Junior"

Next Washington wrote:

Genivaria wrote:How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

"European Federation"? no, that has a very bad, communist/autocratic attitude to me...

lolwat? The United States is a Federation. What the hell is communist/autocratic about it?

The Federal Republic of Europe sounds like a snazzy name.

Next Washington wrote:

Genivaria wrote:How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

"European Federation"? no, that has a very bad, communist/autocratic attitude to me...

Yeah but keeping the term EU would just be confusing.

Telsia wrote:Bloody seppo's, STOP CALLING IT THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE!

Its the European Union, EU, so when it federates, It'll be called the EUROPEAN FEDERATION, the EF

Its not America, its Europe, stop calling it "America Junior"

It's already a federation. o:

Unencumbered by the prejudice that the EU is sui generis and incomparable, federalism scholars now regularly treat the EU as a case in their comparative studies (Friedman-Goldstein, 2001; Fillippov, Ordeshook, Shevtsova, 2004; Roden, 2005; Bednar, 2006). For the purposes of the present analysis, the EU has the necessary minimal attributes of a federal system and crucially the EU is riven with many of the same tensions that afflict federal systems.

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:The Federal Republic of Europe sounds like a snazzy name.

Unitary or get out.

Genivaria wrote:

Risottia wrote:
5.
But the name "United States of Europe" sucks. We'll keep "European Union".

How bout taking a note from EndWar and calling it the European Federation?

Nah, it's just one step before Confederation, and there's already the Helvetii for that.

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:The Federal Republic of Europe sounds like a snazzy name.

Too German and implies that member states aren't republics in their own right.

Call it the Federated Republics of Europe.

Telsia wrote:Bloody seppo's, STOP CALLING IT THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE!

Its the European Union, EU, so when it federates, It'll be called the EUROPEAN FEDERATION, the EF

Its not America, its Europe, stop calling it "America Junior"

Amen, brother.

Genivaria wrote:

Next Washington wrote:
"European Federation"? no, that has a very bad, communist/autocratic attitude to me...

lolwat? The United States is a Federation. What the hell is communist/autocratic about it?

i know the us are a federation...

but the only country i can name with "federation" in its official name is russia.... and i don't think eu could be compared to that

I like The European Empire.