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Homosexuality A Trend?

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Postby Luveria » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:40 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A TREND. It is NOT a choice. It is NOT a phase. It is NOT a fad.
For fuck's sake

The choice part can be debated.

No, it can't be debated. There's nothing to debate when it's very well known no one has a choice in their sexual orientation.

Unless you want to be the first to provide scientific evidence sexual orientation can be changed? Go ahead, I'm waiting. Once you provide a source showing sexual orientation can be changed, then there can be a debate about it.

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Well, yes. They suppressed/hid their feelings until they felt safe from being persecuted because of them. This is not unexpected.


I believe some were born that way,but some make the choice,to get attention.

Oh how ignorant.

I made the choice to be something that results in me being tormented by peers and disowned by my family? But go ahead and tell me how it is, obviously you know I was just doing it for attention since you alone understand everyone who has same-sex relations.
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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:41 pm

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Euroslavia wrote:You have a right to debate this even though you're heterosexual, but I don't because I'm bias as a homosexual? That makes absolutely no sense.


No,I was saying I will no longer debate the topic go ahead and debate I don't care,I just won't be talking on this threat.

Ah, sorry. That's my mistake then for making the assumption that it was sarcasm. Forgive my skepticism. :hug:
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:*Because sexuality isn't something you can control*

For some people it is, but that population is very small.

Bollocks.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:41 pm

No. The only change is that people are much less afraid to come out nowadays.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:42 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:I don't think homosexuality is a trend, but bisexuality (so-called "bicuriosity") has become trendy.

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Not even. The stereotype that bisexuality is something that people claim off hand is simply unfounded.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:42 pm

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Gallup wrote:The choice part can be debated.


That I agree with. I know people that had kids and were married then as soon as it was acceptable,they "came out".


Of course. More and more they are not having to fear some religious person trying to beat the gay of them.

I like having them out versus having them in the closet and marrying our sisters or daughters.
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Postby German-Spanish Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:43 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
German-Spanish Empire wrote:
No,I was saying I will no longer debate the topic go ahead and debate I don't care,I just won't be talking on this threat.

Ah, sorry. That's my mistake then for making the assumption that it was sarcasm. Forgive my skepticism. :hug:


It's okay. :hug:

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:43 pm

I don't see anything 'skyrocketing'. I see people less fearful of being who and what they are, openly. I don't really see this as a problem.

Whether or not I 'approve of' the lifestyle, choices, preferences of others ought to have no bearing on whether or not they ought to be able to have those options available to them, without living in fear, or being told 'you're just going through a phase'.

The only exceptions I see to that overall view, are when choices and such infringe on my rights: Say, a person who enjoys violence opting to use me as their punching bag. That is in direct opposition of my right to not get my ass beat for no reason. Whether or not someone has the right to marry the person they love, on the other hand - since this is such a topical and well-discussed issue - doesn't infringe on my rights to do the same whatsoever.

I don't see a problem with this particular viewpoint - ymmv.

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Postby Blassland » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:44 pm

I do not understand how somebody can think homosexuality is a choice, some men are attracted to women and some are attracted to each other. It is just the way things are, homosexuality is a natural part of nature. Homosexuality has been recorded in many species in animals.
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Postby Petrovsegratsk » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:45 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A TREND. It is NOT a choice. It is NOT a phase. It is NOT a fad.
For fuck's sake


For fuck's sake indeed.
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Postby German-Spanish Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:46 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:I don't see anything 'skyrocketing'. I see people less fearful of being who and what they are, openly. I don't really see this as a problem.

Whether or not I 'approve of' the lifestyle, choices, preferences of others ought to have no bearing on whether or not they ought to be able to have those options available to them, without living in fear, or being told 'you're just going through a phase'.

The only exceptions I see to that overall view, are when choices and such infringe on my rights: Say, a person who enjoys violence opting to use me as their punching bag. That is in direct opposition of my right to not get my ass beat for no reason. Whether or not someone has the right to marry the person they love, on the other hand - since this is such a topical and well-discussed issue - doesn't infringe on my rights to do the same whatsoever.

I don't see a problem with this particular viewpoint - ymmv.


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Postby Azrael » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:46 pm

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Azrael wrote:It's still homosexuality, mate. Just because they weren't fond of some practices doesn't mean they outright decried homosexuality as a whole.

The Greeks believed that men or other boys exploiting the inoccence of those boys who had already grown pubes (meaning I'd be buttraped from age 5 if I was an ancient greek o.o) but still not beard taking them as "little girls" was something funny.

Unlike men doing sex with other grown men, something that was deemed grotesque, disgusting and degrading.

The Romans, not even this. They just didn't kill homosexuals by putting them on fire alive, but they weren't condescending with this, and gaysex wasn't seen as something glorious, not even close to a small fraction of the glorifying they had in regards to the famous orgies, actually AFAIK not even something "beautiful".

Except Roman men were free to have gay sex without any stigma as long as they were a dominant. Most Roman emperors had male concubines, in fact. Homosexuality was not something that was glorified, but it wasn't stigmatized as long as it followed these standards. That's a hell of a lot more tolerance than what was seen in the Medieval period.
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Postby Warda » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:46 pm

Blassland wrote:I do not understand how somebody can think homosexuality is a choice, some men are attracted to women and some are attracted to each other. It is just the way things are, homosexuality is a natural part of nature. Homosexuality has been recorded in many species in animals.

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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:47 pm

German-Spanish Empire wrote:...That coming from a real homosexual...I hereby change my opinion and I no longer with to debate this.

A "real" one? As oppose to what? :palm: I'm sorry but that... that does not compute. Explain.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:48 pm

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New haven america wrote:For some people it is, but that population is very small.

Bollocks.

I wouldn't jump at calling everything bullshit so fast.

Emos in Brazil and Chile at least very widely and commonly have homoerotic experimentation (to the fartest degree you accept to get; in the case of Chileans when it was really explosive, oral sex orgies in public places) as part of what is accepted as the normal adolescence experience, as it always was before the shaming of it by the penetration of adult machismo and marianismo mentality being moralistic (for girls)/sissy-shaming (for boys) against non-traditional sexuality into urban teen culture (here in Rio de Janeiro for example non-penetrative gay sex between those younger than 14 is called meinha and the penetrative one, troca-troca, and it has always been kind of an "epidemic" among children in public schools and some private ones).

And my sexual orientation is naturally fluid (mostly androphilic bisexuality 80-90% of time, homosexuality 10-20%) itself.
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Postby Gaveo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:48 pm

Yes, because all the cool kids are homosexuals... /sarcasm

No, it isn't. Nor is it a choice.
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:48 pm

Homosexuality is not a trend.
Being open about it is.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:49 pm

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German-Spanish Empire wrote:...That coming from a real homosexual...I hereby change my opinion and I no longer with to debate this.

A "real" one? As oppose to what? :palm: I'm sorry but that... that does not compute. Explain.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:50 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A TREND. It is NOT a choice. It is NOT a phase. It is NOT a fad.
For fuck's sake

I would say it's a combination of choice, social influences, and genetics.

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Christian Democrats wrote:I don't think homosexuality is a trend, but bisexuality (so-called "bicuriosity") has become trendy.

BUG . . . GUG . . . LUG

Not even. The stereotype that bisexuality is something that people claim off hand is simply unfounded.

I disagree. Nowadays, because of "sexual liberation," people are willing to "experiment" with whatever comes to mind. I'm not saying that boys didn't circle jerk a century ago or that girls didn't play with each other, but it has become much more commonplace.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:50 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Bollocks.

I wouldn't jump at calling everything bullshit so fast.

I would, because it's obviously bollocks.
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Postby German-Spanish Empire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:51 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:
German-Spanish Empire wrote:...That coming from a real homosexual...I hereby change my opinion and I no longer with to debate this.

A "real" one? As oppose to what? :palm: I'm sorry but that... that does not compute. Explain.


It did sound a bit dumb :p . But I'm not a psychic or anything but I'm sure most of these people are heterosexual that are commenting.

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Postby Pacifornia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:51 pm

If by trend you mean more and more LGBT people are coming out (which is great! :clap: ) then yes. But by the reactions of all the other people and "trend" meaning trendy and cool, then no. Gays and Lesbians are very nice people and give you a fresh perspective on the world! :lol:
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:52 pm

Euroslavia wrote:The irony... it's burns...

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:52 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:Not even. The stereotype that bisexuality is something that people claim off hand is simply unfounded.

I disagree. Nowadays, because of "sexual liberation," people are willing to "experiment" with whatever comes to mind. I'm not saying that boys didn't circle jerk a century ago or that girls didn't play with each other, but it has become much more commonplace.

That's not being "trendy", that's being less afraid to be explore and be open about your sexuality.
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