Should Homeschooling be Illegal?

[The Parkus Empire]

Well the Bible says all our tongues came from the Tower of Babel, although some scientists claim to have found texts that indicate languages evolved from other languages. The faithful remain skeptical.

I have heard this one before.

However, literal readings of Genesis do often strike odd.

Especially when they contradict things that are scientifically observable. Such as evolution, be it biological or linguistic.

[Corvus Metallum]

You know, there are some times I wish I was homeschooled, if only so I could play guitar more

In all seriousness though, the Texas education system sucks. We spend all year studying for a test that really proves nothing except if you're a good test taker or not. Quite frankly, it's not fair, but I doubt the state legislator will do anything about it

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

I have heard this one before.

However, literal readings of Genesis do often strike odd.

Especially when they contradict things that are scientifically observable. Such as evolution, be it biological or linguistic.

It's not that.

-God looks down and says "Oh shit, sin."
-God activates restart
-"Oh wait, I like this Noah guy."
-"Yo! Noah! build a ship and stuff."
-Noah says "Why?"
-"Rain. Oh, and save all of my animal works, kk?"
-"I'm like. . .hundreds of years old."
-"You'll be fine."
-Builds ship and stuffs family and animals aboard
-God said "Let there be much water."
-The angels then said "You know you could have just, plagued them or something."
-"lolnubs."
-Then rain and everything is wiped out.
-Noah lands and somehow everyone procreates. Noah sells some land to some guy who I guess wasn't wiped out by a huge flood or something.

I always thought Genesis was more symbolic then anything else.

[The Parkus Empire]

Especially when they contradict things that are scientifically observable. Such as evolution, be it biological or linguistic.

It's not that.

-God looks down and says "Oh shit, sin."
-God activates restart
-"Oh wait, I like this Noah guy."
-"Yo! Noah! build a ship and stuff."
-Noah says "Why?"
-"Rain. Oh, and save all of my animal works, kk?"
-"I'm like. . .hundreds of years old."
-"You'll be fine."
-Builds ship and stuffs family and animals aboard
-God said "Let there be much water."
-The angels then said "You know you could have just, plagued them or something."
-"lolnubs."
-Then rain and everything is wiped out.
-Noah lands and somehow everyone procreates. Noah sells some land to some guy who I guess wasn't wiped out by a huge flood or something.

I always thought Genesis was more symbolic then anything else.

I was talking more about the creation myth. Humanity is a product of evolution.

[Surfistan]

Like I said a few pages ago, well, no, only if you're homeschooled by Michio Keiko, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Dawkins and Chomsky, or a contemperary with an equal amount of experience and talent in his/her educational field, then you likely will have one of the most critical thinking children in the world.

Maybe some famous historian too.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

It's not that.

-God looks down and says "Oh shit, sin."
-God activates restart
-"Oh wait, I like this Noah guy."
-"Yo! Noah! build a ship and stuff."
-Noah says "Why?"
-"Rain. Oh, and save all of my animal works, kk?"
-"I'm like. . .hundreds of years old."
-"You'll be fine."
-Builds ship and stuffs family and animals aboard
-God said "Let there be much water."
-The angels then said "You know you could have just, plagued them or something."
-"lolnubs."
-Then rain and everything is wiped out.
-Noah lands and somehow everyone procreates. Noah sells some land to some guy who I guess wasn't wiped out by a huge flood or something.

I always thought Genesis was more symbolic then anything else.

I was talking more about the creation myth. Humanity is a product of evolution.

Depends on the view of the 'creation myth'.

There are many forms of the belief.

[The Grey Wolf]

I was talking more about the creation myth. Humanity is a product of evolution.

Depends on the view of the 'creation myth'.

There are many forms of the belief.

Isn't your flag that cartoon Christian tomato?

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Depends on the view of the 'creation myth'.

There are many forms of the belief.

Isn't your flag that cartoon Christian tomato?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeggieTales

[The Parkus Empire]

I was talking more about the creation myth. Humanity is a product of evolution.

Depends on the view of the 'creation myth'.

There are many forms of the belief.

Well whichever one thinks evolution is a bogus process.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Depends on the view of the 'creation myth'.

There are many forms of the belief.

Well whichever one thinks evolution is a bogus process.

Well, there is the one christian creationism which denies all forms of evolution, the one that only denies that man comes from the common ancestor of apes, the one that believes the earth is 4000 years old, the one that believes the earth is 6000 years old, and probably the ones that are 'meh' on the entire issue and agree on some parts but not on others.

I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that man has a common ancestor with apes.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Well whichever one thinks evolution is a bogus process.

Well, there is the one christian creationism which denies all forms of evolution, the one that only denies that man comes from the common ancestor of apes, the one that believes the earth is 4000 years old, the one that believes the earth is 6000 years old, and probably the ones that are 'meh' on the entire issue and agree on some parts but not on others.

I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that man has a common ancestor with apes.

[Natapoc]

You know, there are some times I wish I was homeschooled, if only so I could play guitar more

In all seriousness though, the Texas education system sucks. We spend all year studying for a test that really proves nothing except if you're a good test taker or not. Quite frankly, it's not fair, but I doubt the state legislator will do anything about it

Have you considered trying to homeschool yourself? So called "unschooling"? Many people have done this with great success.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Teenage-Liber ... 0962959170

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Well, there is the one christian creationism which denies all forms of evolution, the one that only denies that man comes from the common ancestor of apes, the one that believes the earth is 4000 years old, the one that believes the earth is 6000 years old, and probably the ones that are 'meh' on the entire issue and agree on some parts but not on others.

I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that man has a common ancestor with apes.

Ooooh, purdy colors.

[Conscentia]

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Ooooh, purdy colors.

Do you understand how man shares a common ancestor with the other Great Apes now, or are you just ignoring the argument?

[Corvus Metallum]

You know, there are some times I wish I was homeschooled, if only so I could play guitar more

In all seriousness though, the Texas education system sucks. We spend all year studying for a test that really proves nothing except if you're a good test taker or not. Quite frankly, it's not fair, but I doubt the state legislator will do anything about it

Have you considered trying to homeschool yourself? So called "unschooling"? Many people have done this with great success.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Teenage-Liber ... 0962959170

[Pultridus]

No we shoulden't make it illigal.you just need a permit to home-school.

[Devidia]

It shouldent be illegal and people whould have the maximum freedom when it comes to deciding important things like their children's education.

A childs education is such an important thing, and is the responsibility of parents. Not the government. No nanny states.

The parent should be able to decide whether to home school a child and send the child to a normal school, and in the case of homeschooling the parent should be completely free to choose any tutor they see fit, without the need for licencing.

Each individual parent should be able to decide what is best for their children, that decision should not be taken away from them by government.

[Natapoc]

Well, there is the one christian creationism which denies all forms of evolution, the one that only denies that man comes from the common ancestor of apes, the one that believes the earth is 4000 years old, the one that believes the earth is 6000 years old, and probably the ones that are 'meh' on the entire issue and agree on some parts but not on others.

I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that man has a common ancestor with apes.

The intentions here are good but this image will not convince anyone.

It's simply not a valid argument. The author asserts that the change from one color to another is "macro-evolution" but just because such an assertion is made does not make it true. A creationist could write the same story and assert that this is all micro-evolution and be no less incorrect.

Color gradients are also not a good model for how evolution works. This illustration is as arbitrary and silly as the type of "proof" that creationists produce to demonstrate the opposite.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Ooooh, purdy colors.

Do you understand how man shares a common ancestor with the other Great Apes now, or are you just ignoring the argument?

In general yes.

Evolution is much like family trees, they branch off with a single person being at it's helm if I am not mistaken.

[edit] Agree or not, I will probably not see the argument, I am otter here.

[Conscentia]

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The intentions here are good but this image will not convince anyone.
It's simply not a valid argument. The author asserts that the change from one color to another is "macro-evolution" but just because such an assertion is made does not make it true. A creationist could write the same story and assert that this is all micro-evolution and be no less incorrect.
Color gradients are also not a good model for how evolution works. This illustration is as arbitrary and silly as the type of "proof" that creationists produce to demonstrate the opposite.

The point is that very small changes can eventually add up to a large and noticeable change, similar to how individual mutations add up & eventually lead to speciation.

[The Parkus Empire]

Well whichever one thinks evolution is a bogus process.

Well, there is the one christian creationism which denies all forms of evolution, the one that only denies that man comes from the common ancestor of apes, the one that believes the earth is 4000 years old, the one that believes the earth is 6000 years old, and probably the ones that are 'meh' on the entire issue and agree on some parts but not on others.

I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that man has a common ancestor with apes.

Look at the damn fossils and the genetic similarity. I mean, fuck. "I believe in evolution in a small sense, but not enough to agree with someone that French has a common ancestor with Spanish."

[Natapoc]

The intentions here are good but this image will not convince anyone.
It's simply not a valid argument. The author asserts that the change from one color to another is "macro-evolution" but just because such an assertion is made does not make it true. A creationist could write the same story and assert that this is all micro-evolution and be no less incorrect.
Color gradients are also not a good model for how evolution works. This illustration is as arbitrary and silly as the type of "proof" that creationists produce to demonstrate the opposite.

The point is that very small changes can eventually add up to a large and noticeable change, similar to how individual mutations add up & eventually lead to speciation.

Yes but this does not demonstrate that point in a way that contradicts the actual argument being made by creationists. It also does not show anything about speciation.

In biology, All the colors above are still one species because a species is not defined by "looking different".

It's defined as being able to reproduce successfully. If this were an accurate analogy one would be unable to "breed(mix)" yellow with "red" to get orange.

Since all these colors can be mixed to produce another viable color (which can still reproduce), you can't call separate colors species.

The definition of species allows for animals that look "different" to an observer to still be the same species.

Again a species is defined as a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. If we oversimply so much that we let red be a species and blue be a species then we must conclude that red and blue are the same species.

[New Israelia]

Absolutely not! I am genuinely surprised you would even make such a suggestion.

With the anti-Christian bias in public education today, homeschooling is the only viable alternative to provide fundamentalist values to our children, something they aren't getting in public education.

Homeschooling is where it's at in regards to decent Christian education.

[The Grey Wolf]

Absolutely not! I am genuinely surprised you would even make such a suggestion.

With the anti-Christian bias in public education today, homeschooling is the only viable alternative to provide fundamentalist values to our children, something they aren't getting in public education.

Homeschooling is where it's at in regards to decent Christian education.

Funnily, most of the history books in the Christian homeschooling were Pro-Zionist. To indoctrinate all the kiddies so they'll support your genocidal plans.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Neo Art]

Yes, of course.