Million Muslim March planned for D.C

[Benuty]

Yes because bombing two cities ( unfortunately killing thousands) to save millions of american and japanese lives is something worthy to celebrate .

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

[Gokturkistan]

Last time I checked most American are not going around singing praises about drone bombings in pakistan.

Technically speaking, that makes them -not- imperialists.

Well put.

Last time I checked most American are not going around singing praises about drone bombings in pakistan.

I think we are ALL talking about the government.

Exactly. The US government and their cheerleaders.

[Gokturkistan]

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

Bollocks. They were already planning to surrender and the USSR did invade part of Japan.

[Ifreann]

That you take offence does not mean they have hostile intentions.


He said as Britain moves to legalise gay marriage.

OMG LEGALIZED GAY MARRIAGE IS SHARIA LAW!!

And Allah said to Mohammed "Bro, gay marriages is totes legit"


Yes, I have never read the Quran, why do you ask?

[Gokturkistan]

Because the other possible alternatives either were executing Operation Downfall, which would have caused even more civilian deaths,

Only according to US Mythology.

or leave Japan under the grips of the incoming USSR.

Oh noes... REDS UNDER THE BEDS!

[Benuty]

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

Bollocks. They were already planning to surrender and the USSR did invade part of Japan.

Yeah thats why Operation Donwnfall was about to take place to send millions of troops to forcefully occupy, bomb cities, and fight for every inch of a surrendering country...yeah that seems legit.

[Agritum]

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

Bollocks. They were already planning to surrender and the USSR did invade part of Japan.

Bullshit. The Allies demanded surrender from them at Potsdam, and the Japanese refused.

[Oceasia]

Because the other possible alternatives either were executing Operation Downfall, which would have caused even more civilian deaths,

Only according to US Mythology.

or leave Japan under the grips of the incoming USSR.

Oh noes... REDS UNDER THE BEDS!

Actually, i think he's right on that one

[Zweite Alaje]

Yes because bombing two cities ( unfortunately killing thousands) to save millions of american and japanese lives is something worthy to celebrate .

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

*Gasp* Saving your own people's lives and not your enemy's in a war!!! That's the whole point!!!

[Oceasia]

If i had 1 thing to do if i had full control of the forum, i would erase the general sub-forum. Put this in your sig if you agree

[Agritum]

Because the other possible alternatives either were executing Operation Downfall, which would have caused even more civilian deaths,

Only according to US Mythology.

or leave Japan under the grips of the incoming USSR.

Oh noes... REDS UNDER THE BEDS!

Because Poland, Romania, East Germany and Hungary totally weren't screwed up by the Soviets, didn't they ?

[Ifreann]

If i had 1 thing to do if i had full control of the forum, i would erase the general sub-forum. Put this in your sig if you agree

It's a good thing you don't have control over jackshit then, isn't it?

[Jamzmania]

Which country are you from? You will be right... there is a large list of countries that were f-ed over by the US Empire.

They didn't exactly "celebrate" it, but i am from Indonesia anyways.

We did something to your country?

[Agritum]

They didn't exactly "celebrate" it, but i am from Indonesia anyways.

We did something to your country?

Well, liberating them from the Japanese? It's not like the US could have done much to put Indonesia out of Dutch control.

[Yorkopolis]

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

In the process vaporizing 246.000 people, most of whom were innocent civillians. An invasion by the USSR would have been far less painful and, in the end, would have stopped the many cases of cancer and other deadly sicknesses that have developed to the children of those who were there at the time of the bombings and survived.

[Benuty]

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

In the process vaporizing 246.000 people, most of whom were innocent civillians. An invasion by the USSR would have been far less painful and, in the end, would have stopped the many cases of cancer and other deadly sicknesses that have developed to the children of those who were there at the time of the bombings and survived.

246,000> Millions of People.

Hmm I don't know but it seems a massive invasion not happening actually saved more lives.

[Yorkopolis]

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

*Gasp* Saving your own people's lives and not your enemy's in a war!!! That's the whole point!!!

So the point of war has suddenly become pointlessly lolbombing the shit out of enemy civillians just 'cause you can? Way to lower yourself to Nazi Germany.

[Agritum]

The US saved millions from a horrific last stand campaign that the japanese military government would have enacted had the US and the Soviets invaded Japan.

In the process vaporizing 246.000 people, most of whom were innocent civillians. An invasion by the USSR would have been far less painful and, in the end, would have stopped the many cases of cancer and other deadly sicknesses that have developed to the children of those who were there at the time of the bombings and survived.

Sure, because a naval invasion on the home territory of an incredibly populated and nationalistic nation at the hands of another nation which was somewhat infamous for its destructive warfare techniques totally would have made less victims than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[Yorkopolis]

In the process vaporizing 246.000 people, most of whom were innocent civillians. An invasion by the USSR would have been far less painful and, in the end, would have stopped the many cases of cancer and other deadly sicknesses that have developed to the children of those who were there at the time of the bombings and survived.

Sure, because a naval invasion on the home territory of an incredibly populated and nationalistic nation at the hands of another nation which was somewhat infamous for its destructive warfare techniques totally would have made less victims than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

We're not even counting here those who even today have to deal with the cancer still in their blood because their grandparents had been radiated in Hiroshima/Nagasaki, which I believe is still a large percentage. Yes, it wouldn't have been the best idea and may have caused a lot of bloodshed, but dropping an atomic bomb on a city, which vaporizes 100.000 people in 10 seconds, and on the long term makes tens of families and their children suffer from the deadly disease of cancer, certainly is worse than an invasion by the Red Army, at least in my opinion.

[Eucadian Federation]

I'm only 16 and I still remember that day as if it was yesterday.

You were 4 or 5 at the time. You'll get over it.

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I find this insulting, they already have rights. They are going to be marching for nothing.

"I am insulted by people using their rights for reasons I don't like!"
You are insulted too easily.

One doesn't get over the fact of loosing his brother and sister. You might. But I sure as hell won't . Sometime in the future I will, but for now, I'm not getting over it.



Wait. never mind, I don't intend on getting over it at all. So scratch that...

[DogDoo 7]

I'm only 16 and I still remember that day as if it was yesterday.

You were 4 or 5 at the time. You'll get over it.

holy fuck. thanks for giving me my geezer epiphany for the day

[Ifreann]

You were 4 or 5 at the time. You'll get over it.

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"I am insulted by people using their rights for reasons I don't like!"
You are insulted too easily.

One doesn't get over the fact of loosing his brother and sister. You might. But I sure as hell won't . Sometime in the future I will, but for now, I'm not getting over it.

In fact, I don't intend on it either.

You might want to rephrase that, because you've said that you both will someday get over it, and won't get over it and don't intend to. It's rather confusing.

[Gokturkistan]

No it isn't.

And you saved Japanese lives? Bullshit. Bombing them killed them! You saved US military lives and possibly those of some of the Japanese military but at the cost of thousands of civilian lives (and many long after the actual event).

Sorry, but civilian deaths (those of children especially) are less acceptable than military ones; and I say this as someone whose grandfather died fighting for the US in WW2.

So the point of war has suddenly become pointlessly lolbombing the shit out of enemy civillians just 'cause you can? Way to lower yourself to Nazi Germany.

Indeed. There is a reason it is considered a War Crime to bomb civilians after all.

[Eucadian Federation]

One doesn't get over the fact of loosing his brother and sister. You might. But I sure as hell won't . Sometime in the future I will, but for now, I'm not getting over it.

In fact, I don't intend on it either.

You might want to rephrase that, because you've said that you both will someday get over it, and won't get over it and don't intend to. It's rather confusing.

How about... No, I'm not going to get over at all. No matter what. No matter how long it happened ago. There's the point of that post. Sorry if I confused you...

[Ifreann]

You were 4 or 5 at the time. You'll get over it.

holy fuck. thanks for giving me my geezer epiphany for the day

The quote in your sig is from a Simpsons episode that aired 18 years ago.